On January 01 2014 07:51 Sawofhackness wrote: When the interest wanes - the sponsors drop - the money dries up quickly
It's phenomenally expensive to run a team - it's often done on passion and sheer enthusiasm rather than business acumen - a lot of these "CEOs" are just normal guys with little or no experience
Great when the game is highly popular - a sinking ship when the viewer numbers diminish
Competitive computer games are not like competitive sports in a business sense - football is here to stay, so is tennis, so is golf.. computer games? 100 come out a year.. the market is heavily saturated.. it's highly focused (LoL players watch LoL, SC players watch SC, counter-strike players watch counter-strike).. and so on and so on
SC2 is on the decline.. when the next expansion is released there will be a brief spike of interest, before it spirals down into grassroots only competition, few pro-players and so on
I've been there for the rise of some of the first E-sports games, even playing on teams at their peaks, then their slow deaths, and there for the next big FPS game, the peak.. rinse repeat.. the same with the companies.. seen dozens go down.. when the popularity drops, it's just a black hole for money
I love games, and I was hoping for SC2 to gain "critical mass" to form a chain-reaction of popularity across the globe - it almost almost did, but not quite. We've had the golden years. I still love it, enjoy it, but we all know what's happening.
There's still a couple of years left in SC2 and will continue to enjoy, even behemoths like LoL will have limited shelf life - but more people than ever are playing games, from iphones to full on PC's.. so if there's ever a Starcraft 3.. and it's free to play.. mmm
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the article says most of the cashflow came from the salary of the team owner. He inherited dad's business with his bros.
Not much of a surprise after the Massan incident with respect to the payment thing. As for the biopsy on his lung, I could excuse lack of communication given a medical condition like cancer.
On January 01 2014 07:51 Sawofhackness wrote: When the interest wanes - the sponsors drop - the money dries up quickly
It's phenomenally expensive to run a team - it's often done on passion and sheer enthusiasm rather than business acumen - a lot of these "CEOs" are just normal guys with little or no experience
Great when the game is highly popular - a sinking ship when the viewer numbers diminish
Competitive computer games are not like competitive sports in a business sense - football is here to stay, so is tennis, so is golf.. computer games? 100 come out a year.. the market is heavily saturated.. it's highly focused (LoL players watch LoL, SC players watch SC, counter-strike players watch counter-strike).. and so on and so on
SC2 is on the decline.. when the next expansion is released there will be a brief spike of interest, before it spirals down into grassroots only competition, few pro-players and so on
I've been there for the rise of some of the first E-sports games, even playing on teams at their peaks, then their slow deaths, and there for the next big FPS game, the peak.. rinse repeat.. the same with the companies.. seen dozens go down.. when the popularity drops, it's just a black hole for money
I love games, and I was hoping for SC2 to gain "critical mass" to form a chain-reaction of popularity across the globe - it almost almost did, but not quite. We've had the golden years. I still love it, enjoy it, but we all know what's happening.
There's still a couple of years left in SC2 and will continue to enjoy, even behemoths like LoL will have limited shelf life - but more people than ever are playing games, from iphones to full on PC's.. so if there's ever a Starcraft 3.. and it's free to play.. mmm
melodramatic half-drunk post
This ceo was in over his head with daddy's money. If you don't know how to run a team don't just create one off of your passion because esports will be better off without it we don't want you here if you can't pay your players(when you make a contract saying you will pay them) and you can't treat them decently. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431056¤tpage=10#189 (read post in spoiler) you don't need to be a business man to not react like that.
sounds like he ran out of money and had no idea how to make more. Destiny should open an e-sports consultancy, help all owners who arent liquid/eg to set up a series of good streams for that cash revenue. in bitcoin.
On January 01 2014 07:48 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: thought someone like HyuN would get much more salary than that. Flash and JD get like 6 digit salaries dont they?
6 digit over a year. 1300 a month is minimal wage where I live, but for a progamer that's pretty decent I guess.
It's a lot more compared to what a lot and I do mean a lot of other players used to make. Look at what some foreigners were making in BW. Now look at what a lot of KeSPA players were making for BW. Not everyone gets good salary.
As for the CEO, we've heard all the stories about this guy. I cannot say anything good about him so I'll leave it at that.
There is really a need of an international head(company/union) of esports teams. There are like half a duzend that are solid and the rest is kinda dubious and shady.
Stuff like that is "hurting ... you know" not shit like balance or Riot.
On January 01 2014 07:48 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: thought someone like HyuN would get much more salary than that. Flash and JD get like 6 digit salaries dont they?
Probably not. I remember the salary of Stephano that was leaked once was about 9k a month, so I doubt that JD gets much more. Flash I don't know, but I don't think he gets anything close to his BW salary these days.
On January 01 2014 07:48 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: thought someone like HyuN would get much more salary than that. Flash and JD get like 6 digit salaries dont they?
They got that in BW... we don't know for certain if they still get as much in pure salary. If I had to guess I'd say it went down, although I'm sure Jaedong at least got some nice prize money earnings by now in SC2, and he streams.