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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
December 09 2013 23:07 GMT
#101
i barely get 30 fps playing sc2 step it up major
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 09 2013 23:09 GMT
#102
On December 10 2013 06:52 crms wrote:
So TB graciously hosted an event to build the NA scene and there were 2 forfeits in the top 8 and more in the earlier rounds? Am I misinformed? That's terrible respect to the only tournament that gives a damn about the NA scene.


There were no earlier rounds. It was a 8 round tournament.

And both forfeits were single games, not matches. Both players had already lost a Bo3 and conceded the 4th game.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 09 2013 23:24 GMT
#103
On December 10 2013 08:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:52 crms wrote:
So TB graciously hosted an event to build the NA scene and there were 2 forfeits in the top 8 and more in the earlier rounds? Am I misinformed? That's terrible respect to the only tournament that gives a damn about the NA scene.


There were no earlier rounds. It was a 8 round tournament.

And both forfeits were single games, not matches. Both players had already lost a Bo3 and conceded the 4th game.


Ok, that's a bit better but still a bit meh. Thanks for the correct info.
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
December 10 2013 00:03 GMT
#104
On December 10 2013 07:29 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:52 crms wrote:
So TB graciously hosted an event to build the NA scene and there were 2 forfeits in the top 8 and more in the earlier rounds? Am I misinformed? That's terrible respect to the only tournament that gives a damn about the NA scene.

I agree in respect to Demuslim. I mean he should consider himself lucky that the rules let him compete because he's not exactly a North American himself.

MajOr? Maybe it's disrespectful. Lag is a massive bitch though but you didn't see Koreans forfeiting from TSL3 when they weren't used to the latency difference between KR and NA/EU. I would assume for Juan's case it was legitimately bad enough that the series was not worth playing at all.


I will admit that I am a bit of a DeMuslim fanboy and probably wouldn’t go to the same lengths to defend any other player in the same situation; That been said could we possibly get passed the Reddit witch-hunt mentality and maybe start giving players the benefit of the doubt before throwing them under the bus when stuff like this happens? He quit because he was ill, straight away there were people were going inspector Cluzo posting twitter pictures of the night before claiming he’d been out and was obviously just hung over. Next there are threads where people drops lines like “I am a huge fan of DeMulsim, I watch his stream everyday” following up these comments with something like “… but I lost a lot of respect for him, he’s clearly just sponging EG’s money”. Is it completely out of the realms of possibility that he went out the night before (because you know, it’s cool to meet up with friends and his game didn’t start until 18:00 the next day) and happened to get food poisoning?

Funny how people always say hubs like TMZ are what’s wrong with modern media, yet even for something as niche as SC2 that doesn’t have that kind of exposure we feel the need to fill that gap ourselves.

I know that there’s a lot of good people in the scene too, and it’s usually these people we don’t hear about but still, it’s depressing to see these attitudes are still rife (seems like when Naniwa sneezes the whole community has a keyboard contortion).
bxc
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
December 10 2013 05:20 GMT
#105
Umm, hitman was not as cheesy. Scarlett 10 pooled and 9 pooled, both games she lost. If anything, Scarlett was "cheesier". Regardless, Scarlett didn't properly scout in each of the games she lost. It almost seemed like the opponent underestimated hitman.
Spectralx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States198 Posts
December 10 2013 15:13 GMT
#106
YAY HuK~!~!~ happy for you!
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 10 2013 16:31 GMT
#107
On December 10 2013 14:20 bxc wrote:
Umm, hitman was not as cheesy. Scarlett 10 pooled and 9 pooled, both games she lost. If anything, Scarlett was "cheesier". Regardless, Scarlett didn't properly scout in each of the games she lost. It almost seemed like the opponent underestimated hitman.

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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 10 2013 16:58 GMT
#108
On December 10 2013 06:45 BronzeKnee wrote:
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On December 09 2013 13:28 ElMeanYo wrote:
But he is FAR inferior in skill and everyone knows it. I don't know if Scarlett was tired or fed up or what, but Hitman should not have had a chance.


What?

The better player at the moment of the match, always wins, by definition of the word better.

Hitman was better than Scarlett when it counted, which is when they played. There is nothing else to it. Whether or not you think Hitman should have lost, didn't have a chance or how you feel about Scarlett ect... doesn't matter at all. There was saying I heard at the drag strip I used to frequent... we don't race dyno sheets, we race cars. It doesn't matter what a car puts down on paper or how it should do. What matters is how it does do.

Hitman showed up and beat Scarlett. He was the better player.



Wait let me get this straight, so if blizzard buffs marines to hit for twenty damage per shot, and no P or Z ever wins a pro game again, you're gonna say that Terrans are the better players because they show up and beat everyone else?
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
December 10 2013 17:22 GMT
#109
On December 11 2013 01:58 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:45 BronzeKnee wrote:
On December 09 2013 13:28 ElMeanYo wrote:
But he is FAR inferior in skill and everyone knows it. I don't know if Scarlett was tired or fed up or what, but Hitman should not have had a chance.


What?

The better player at the moment of the match, always wins, by definition of the word better.

Hitman was better than Scarlett when it counted, which is when they played. There is nothing else to it. Whether or not you think Hitman should have lost, didn't have a chance or how you feel about Scarlett ect... doesn't matter at all. There was saying I heard at the drag strip I used to frequent... we don't race dyno sheets, we race cars. It doesn't matter what a car puts down on paper or how it should do. What matters is how it does do.

Hitman showed up and beat Scarlett. He was the better player.



Wait let me get this straight, so if blizzard buffs marines to hit for twenty damage per shot, and no P or Z ever wins a pro game again, you're gonna say that Terrans are the better players because they show up and beat everyone else?

Pretty much this is the problem in sc2. Building correct units (in time) is just too strong and mostly pretty unlucky for the opponent, especially with this ingame-speed. Opponent can do nothing, even mit imba micro. The only one thing the opponent might/can to win if you dont do a timing-attack or try to delay his timing-attack with fake stuff. But even this you realize this "delay-try" and you can just ignore it to make a timing attack.
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pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
December 11 2013 14:34 GMT
#110
On December 11 2013 01:58 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 06:45 BronzeKnee wrote:
On December 09 2013 13:28 ElMeanYo wrote:
But he is FAR inferior in skill and everyone knows it. I don't know if Scarlett was tired or fed up or what, but Hitman should not have had a chance.


What?

The better player at the moment of the match, always wins, by definition of the word better.

Hitman was better than Scarlett when it counted, which is when they played. There is nothing else to it. Whether or not you think Hitman should have lost, didn't have a chance or how you feel about Scarlett ect... doesn't matter at all. There was saying I heard at the drag strip I used to frequent... we don't race dyno sheets, we race cars. It doesn't matter what a car puts down on paper or how it should do. What matters is how it does do.

Hitman showed up and beat Scarlett. He was the better player.



Wait let me get this straight, so if blizzard buffs marines to hit for twenty damage per shot, and no P or Z ever wins a pro game again, you're gonna say that Terrans are the better players because they show up and beat everyone else?


"Breaking" the game by creating a completely imbalanced unit sort of "breaks" your argument as well...
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 15:00:16
December 11 2013 14:57 GMT
#111
On December 11 2013 23:34 pNRG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2013 01:58 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:45 BronzeKnee wrote:
On December 09 2013 13:28 ElMeanYo wrote:
But he is FAR inferior in skill and everyone knows it. I don't know if Scarlett was tired or fed up or what, but Hitman should not have had a chance.


What?

The better player at the moment of the match, always wins, by definition of the word better.

Hitman was better than Scarlett when it counted, which is when they played. There is nothing else to it. Whether or not you think Hitman should have lost, didn't have a chance or how you feel about Scarlett ect... doesn't matter at all. There was saying I heard at the drag strip I used to frequent... we don't race dyno sheets, we race cars. It doesn't matter what a car puts down on paper or how it should do. What matters is how it does do.

Hitman showed up and beat Scarlett. He was the better player.



Wait let me get this straight, so if blizzard buffs marines to hit for twenty damage per shot, and no P or Z ever wins a pro game again, you're gonna say that Terrans are the better players because they show up and beat everyone else?


"Breaking" the game by creating a completely imbalanced unit sort of "breaks" your argument as well...


I'm not the one whose argument rests on the ridiculous assumption that the game is and has always been perfectly balanced.

I guess when mvp destroyed tier 3 armies with snipe, he was the better player! Except then snipe immediately got nerfed for everyone. Hmm, interesting how that works!
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
December 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#112
Really enjoyed the tournament, cool to see NA players duke it out. Thank you TotalBiscuit, and Idra for casting.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 11 2013 18:28 GMT
#113
I loved the tournament, also Hitman won because he exploited a weakness to allins from unknown players. Scarlett is probably better on average though.
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CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
December 11 2013 18:35 GMT
#114
Gotta point out the utter domination by Canada. Too bad I didn't know this was going on, I missed it...
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 11 2013 18:48 GMT
#115
On December 12 2013 03:28 The_Templar wrote:
I loved the tournament, also Hitman won because he exploited a weakness to allins from unknown players. Scarlett is probably better on average though.

Yeah probably. I mean if Hitman played the same opponents she has over a year, he might have had slightly worse results. Should be pretty close though.
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Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
December 11 2013 18:50 GMT
#116
On December 12 2013 03:35 CutTheEnemy wrote:
Gotta point out the utter domination by Canada. Too bad I didn't know this was going on, I missed it...


Yeah same here. I hadn't heard anything about this, although it's good to see HuK win something again!
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