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The Unending Royal Road: Soul_Dear - Road to Blizzcon #9 -…

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tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
November 06 2013 18:38 GMT
#41
ooooo, snap. Great write-up.

I rarely cheer for non-zerg players not named polt..... but this makes a small flame of support burn

ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
November 06 2013 18:39 GMT
#42
i remember when dear broke flash's winstreak in bw
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 06 2013 18:43 GMT
#43
On November 07 2013 03:39 ChriS-X wrote:
i remember when dear broke flash's winstreak in bw


I believe the smiley you were looking for is , not
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 18:51:12
November 06 2013 18:50 GMT
#44
On November 07 2013 03:05 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 03:01 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Dear wins Blizzcon, he's going to have a strong argument to being the world's best player at the moment, and the best Protoss in SC2 history. The word "bonjwa" gets overused, but Dear is one of the only guys who we could legitimately put in that conversation if he does win Blizzcon.

Nice article, btw, though I think it sort of glossed over how fun Dear is to watch these days. He plays an extremely exciting and spectator friendly style of Protoss--not as defensive as Rain or as aggressive as MC, but just doing all the little things right, multitasking like crazy, and never losing his composure even in the most high pressure situations


Well, unfortunately, no.

Dear may be very strong at the moment, and even more if he wins Blizzcon, but "best Protoss SC2 in history"?

You need much much more than a few months of success than that. Right now, he is more akin to "Summer of Taeja" than "King of Wings"


Bonjwa definitely too early but He's heads and shoulders above Taeja. WCS KR GSL championship and then winning the season finals right afterwards? No one else has done that (I think).

Dear is still dare I say it underhyped going into this tournament. It's almost criminal how ruthlessly he dismantled Soulkey. If this was Innovation people would be spasming everywhere. Mind Innovation always seemed to be rather over hyped from the limited games I caught. Honestly, Taeja's my biggest fear for him. Taeja's always had the smartest TvP IMO and he won't offer the same choices that a Bomber or Maru would.
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
November 06 2013 19:05 GMT
#45
On November 07 2013 03:50 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 03:05 fezvez wrote:
On November 07 2013 03:01 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Dear wins Blizzcon, he's going to have a strong argument to being the world's best player at the moment, and the best Protoss in SC2 history. The word "bonjwa" gets overused, but Dear is one of the only guys who we could legitimately put in that conversation if he does win Blizzcon.

Nice article, btw, though I think it sort of glossed over how fun Dear is to watch these days. He plays an extremely exciting and spectator friendly style of Protoss--not as defensive as Rain or as aggressive as MC, but just doing all the little things right, multitasking like crazy, and never losing his composure even in the most high pressure situations


Well, unfortunately, no.

Dear may be very strong at the moment, and even more if he wins Blizzcon, but "best Protoss SC2 in history"?

You need much much more than a few months of success than that. Right now, he is more akin to "Summer of Taeja" than "King of Wings"


Bonjwa definitely too early but He's heads and shoulders above Taeja. WCS KR GSL championship and then winning the season finals right afterwards? No one else has done that (I think).

Dear is still dare I say it underhyped going into this tournament. It's almost criminal how ruthlessly he dismantled Soulkey. If this was Innovation people would be spasming everywhere. Mind Innovation always seemed to be rather over hyped from the limited games I caught. Honestly, Taeja's my biggest fear for him. Taeja's always had the smartest TvP IMO and he won't offer the same choices that a Bomber or Maru would.


I completely agree that Taeja is the biggest threat to Dear. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dear lose in the first round, but if he does beat Taeja, I also wouldn't be surprised if he went on to win it all.

The nice thing about Taeja vs Dear is that it should play out so differently from Dear's matches with Maru. Maru was all about constant pressure with lower tier units, trying to force Dear into a mistake which never came. But Taeja loves going into lategame against Toss and stomping them with Ghosts, so it could end up being a very different sort of challenge.
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dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
November 06 2013 19:13 GMT
#46
*Jumps on the hype train*

Man I love this guy right now, It's like watching Rain on steroids.
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 19:23:57
November 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#47
I actually think he's a bit overhyped. It was so flukey to have the average Soo and the good, but not incredible, Dear in the GSL finals this year. Literally every single game I've seen of Dear's, apart from the Maru games, consist of him doing exactly what other Protoss do, but just attacking about 30 seconds earlier. The two lategame scenarios I saw him in, he did very well, but not inspiringly so. Just seemed like a more solid Hero, or a more active Rain. I think he's going to get embarrassingly flattened by Taeja, and then forgotten as his particular style of all-ins get figured out. Granted, he'll probably be a top-5 Protoss in the lategame for quite some time, but I see this streak as nothing more than just that - a streak.
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#48
Time to join the hypetrain

but:
On November 07 2013 Zealously wrote:
Dear proved took on the challenge with gusto, riding his momentum from Code S and turned the Season Finals into what could be considered a continuation of the Royal Road.

what?
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
November 06 2013 19:33 GMT
#49
i have dear down to win it all, he just seems unstoppable at the moment.

as much as i want mvp to take it
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fourColo
Profile Joined June 2011
United States363 Posts
November 06 2013 19:38 GMT
#50
Dear is our new king, our new protoss president, our new zerg bonjwa.
n0ah
Profile Joined June 2011
United States250 Posts
November 06 2013 19:54 GMT
#51
Triple-Royal-Roader all the way across the sky!
If this is to end in fire, then we will all burn together
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 06 2013 19:54 GMT
#52
On November 07 2013 04:22 Pontius Pirate wrote:
I actually think he's a bit overhyped. It was so flukey to have the average Soo and the good, but not incredible, Dear in the GSL finals this year. Literally every single game I've seen of Dear's, apart from the Maru games, consist of him doing exactly what other Protoss do, but just attacking about 30 seconds earlier. The two lategame scenarios I saw him in, he did very well, but not inspiringly so. Just seemed like a more solid Hero, or a more active Rain. I think he's going to get embarrassingly flattened by Taeja, and then forgotten as his particular style of all-ins get figured out. Granted, he'll probably be a top-5 Protoss in the lategame for quite some time, but I see this streak as nothing more than just that - a streak.

Those 30 seconds earlier make him da best toss in the world atm though. Seriously, i remember attentively watching HerO vs Dear in Season 3 finals. In 1 game at minute X HerO was in total advantage (both, worker and army) supply wise. 5 minutes of nothing happening (without even more tech from HerO) and Dear has both more army and workers. WTF. And yes, more solid HerO or more active Rain is about as good as you can get as toss. Not to mention he does not even all-in alot :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 06 2013 19:59 GMT
#53
On November 07 2013 04:54 n0ah wrote:
Triple-Royal-Roader all the way across the sky!


Could just call it The Royal Road because no way anyone else ever repeats that if it happens
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 06 2013 20:01 GMT
#54
On November 07 2013 04:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 04:54 n0ah wrote:
Triple-Royal-Roader all the way across the sky!


Could just call it The Royal Road because no way anyone else ever repeats that if it happens

Well, it is way too Royal of a road.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 06 2013 20:08 GMT
#55
On November 07 2013 05:01 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 04:59 Zealously wrote:
On November 07 2013 04:54 n0ah wrote:
Triple-Royal-Roader all the way across the sky!


Could just call it The Royal Road because no way anyone else ever repeats that if it happens

Well, it is way too Royal of a road.

the super-duper royal road
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 06 2013 20:10 GMT
#56
Oh Dear!
Get off my lawn, young punks
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
November 06 2013 20:12 GMT
#57
These write-ups are amazing. Can't wait for new ones Especially the naniwa one
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highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 20:17:59
November 06 2013 20:16 GMT
#58
On November 07 2013 02:34 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 02:14 highsis wrote:
Dear was defeated in IEM by Hydra 2-0, just saying even if he wasn't putting his best effort.



Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 20:24 MiND.GaMeS wrote:
On November 02 2013 17:49 lystier wrote:
Dear lost to Hydra in KR/TW qualifiers of IEM Singapore and fell to the lower's brackets.
He's gonna face Byul in loser's round 1 soon.

He didn't want to really play. He even forfeited his game in the lower bracket. The reason might be simple: in a couple days he has a shot at 100.000 $ and a lot of prestige. why in the world should he unveil strategies in a televised qualifier where the first place at the very end gets 10.000 $. He gets 5k for just attending blizzcon and nearly gets the same for just making it into the next round.

It really does not make sense for him to participate in that tournament at all.




Not sure if I buy this excuse. If he didn't want to play, why is he in the event, and why did he not forfeit the first set against Hydra.

That's only a speculation that he lost on purpose.
LastLemming
Profile Joined June 2011
United States38 Posts
November 06 2013 20:19 GMT
#59
GOOOOO DEAR!!!!!!
Nikoras
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States115 Posts
November 06 2013 20:23 GMT
#60
On November 07 2013 03:01 awesomoecalypse wrote:
If Dear wins Blizzcon, he's going to have a strong argument to being the world's best player at the moment, and the best Protoss in SC2 history. The word "bonjwa" gets overused, but Dear is one of the only guys who we could legitimately put in that conversation if he does win Blizzcon.

Nice article, btw, though I think it sort of glossed over how fun Dear is to watch these days. He plays an extremely exciting and spectator friendly style of Protoss--not as defensive as Rain or as aggressive as MC, but just doing all the little things right, multitasking like crazy, and never losing his composure even in the most high pressure situations



Maybe he's had the best protoss play, but you seriously can't call him the best when MC exists. How many finals has MC been in? Over the course of SC2's history MC has proven himself again and again. Dear is impressive, but how long has he been at the top for now? Surely a fraction of the time MC has been around. MC dominates SC2 earnings even topping MVP (wanna talk about the word "bonjwa?" there's a guy who I think deserves it)
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