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Innovation will join Acer on September 1 - Page 24

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holmesgenius
Profile Joined February 2013
Vietnam65 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 16:07:38
August 28 2013 16:07 GMT
#461
Team Acer: former Champion
Terran imbalance ---- Zerg wins ---- Protoss advances
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
August 28 2013 16:31 GMT
#462
On August 29 2013 00:12 astray71 wrote:
I'm still under the belief that Innovation will fall into a massive slump and he will only retain mid level success.

I would like you to consider that:
a) his mechanics are what have helped him become one of the best players in the world. I really don't know that they will suffer under different settings (He's still stuck in WCS KR until next year).
b) he's never really lived up to his nickname. being in the foreign scene (or just getting a new team and coach) could do wonders in terms of expanding his playstyle.
c) scarlett has done quite well under acer
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 16:54:37
August 28 2013 16:54 GMT
#463
On August 29 2013 01:31 DusTerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 00:12 astray71 wrote:
I'm still under the belief that Innovation will fall into a massive slump and he will only retain mid level success.

I would like you to consider that:
a) his mechanics are what have helped him become one of the best players in the world. I really don't know that they will suffer under different settings (He's still stuck in WCS KR until next year).
b) he's never really lived up to his nickname. being in the foreign scene (or just getting a new team and coach) could do wonders in terms of expanding his playstyle.
c) scarlett has done quite well under acer

i would also like you to consider that this is the most depressing news i've ever heard in my entire life time. T_T. im gonna go cry myself to sleep, again.
rip prime
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
August 28 2013 16:59 GMT
#464
On August 29 2013 01:54 asdfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 01:31 DusTerr wrote:
On August 29 2013 00:12 astray71 wrote:
I'm still under the belief that Innovation will fall into a massive slump and he will only retain mid level success.

I would like you to consider that:
a) his mechanics are what have helped him become one of the best players in the world. I really don't know that they will suffer under different settings (He's still stuck in WCS KR until next year).
b) he's never really lived up to his nickname. being in the foreign scene (or just getting a new team and coach) could do wonders in terms of expanding his playstyle.
c) scarlett has done quite well under acer

i would also like you to consider that this is the most depressing news i've ever heard in my entire life time. T_T. im gonna go cry myself to sleep, again.

Man you must've lived a happy life until now.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 28 2013 18:32 GMT
#465
Innovation and Hyvaa wore the GSL black teamless shirts on the WCS KR S3 player introduction video:


my source suggests Hyvaa might also join a foreign team since he is asking for Skype contacts of numerous people. Trap and Dear are still on STX uniform though.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 18:43:10
August 28 2013 18:40 GMT
#466
Who wants Hyvaa? Going? Going?

On August 29 2013 01:31 DusTerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 00:12 astray71 wrote:
I'm still under the belief that Innovation will fall into a massive slump and he will only retain mid level success.

I would like you to consider that:
a) his mechanics are what have helped him become one of the best players in the world. I really don't know that they will suffer under different settings (He's still stuck in WCS KR until next year).
b) he's never really lived up to his nickname. being in the foreign scene (or just getting a new team and coach) could do wonders in terms of expanding his playstyle.
c) scarlett has done quite well under acer


Interesting that you bring up Scarlett because Scarlett has always done well marching to beat of her own drum. There will always be exceptions. The only thing I can agree on with your points is the first one. The guy has good mechanics, but like most players. He's very stubborn; remember guys he was late to the hellbat race.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 18:41:45
August 28 2013 18:41 GMT
#467
Clarity hyvaa
they just lost shuttle and need someone else
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
August 28 2013 20:19 GMT
#468
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
August 28 2013 20:24 GMT
#469
On August 29 2013 05:19 Witten wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.



MMA is a good player now.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 28 2013 20:25 GMT
#470
On August 29 2013 05:19 Witten wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.


Top Korean players at or near their peaks don't go to foreign teams that often though. I can't remember more than a handful of times, tops, that something like this has happened.
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NerdCRAFT
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
August 29 2013 01:53 GMT
#471
Good God please no!!!
Sheep may talk peace with a wolf, but the wolf always answers the same. No.
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 02:00:33
August 29 2013 01:58 GMT
#472
On August 29 2013 03:40 StarStruck wrote:
Who wants Hyvaa? Going? Going?

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 01:31 DusTerr wrote:
On August 29 2013 00:12 astray71 wrote:
I'm still under the belief that Innovation will fall into a massive slump and he will only retain mid level success.

I would like you to consider that:
a) his mechanics are what have helped him become one of the best players in the world. I really don't know that they will suffer under different settings (He's still stuck in WCS KR until next year).
b) he's never really lived up to his nickname. being in the foreign scene (or just getting a new team and coach) could do wonders in terms of expanding his playstyle.
c) scarlett has done quite well under acer


Interesting that you bring up Scarlett because Scarlett has always done well marching to beat of her own drum. There will always be exceptions. The only thing I can agree on with your points is the first one. The guy has good mechanics, but like most players. He's very stubborn; remember guys he was late to the hellbat race.



inconceivable, innovation is clearly a patch terran !


you are correct though, i would say that innovations struggles as of late is a result of being stubborn and being predictable. When the opponent knows exactly what's coming, he's beatable. My eyes will be glued to the screen this code S during innovation's group because his storyline has become very compelling.



On August 29 2013 05:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 05:19 Witten wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.


Top Korean players at or near their peaks don't go to foreign teams that often though. I can't remember more than a handful of times, tops, that something like this has happened.


IMO they will go where the money goes. I think it's safe to say innovation was probably underpaid while playing for STX, no? I'll be honest, i don't know much about the specifics of pro sc2 players' contracts, so this is pure conjecture on my part.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 29 2013 07:02 GMT
#473
On August 29 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 10:15 giririsss wrote:
On August 28 2013 09:35 dabom88 wrote:
On August 28 2013 06:45 giririsss wrote:
On August 28 2013 03:31 TAMinator wrote:
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother

Behind this.

And i watched some GSTL.

It was hard to take a lot of it seriously though with several of the teams being so weak, but it was good to see how people you usually on see in europe/america now (MMA/Ryung for e.g.) perform against koreans in korea.

I'm in the other boat.

I don't watch Proleague because:
1. I didn't like the casters in the broadcasts I watched.
2. I did not like a lot of the maps in the Proleague map pool
3. I'm not familiar with the Kespa teams and players. I'm more familiar with the GSTL teams and players, and I like Wolf and Khaldor.



i agree with most of that, and i didn't watch a lot of pro league either, mainly because of the bad casters.

Did watch some though.

Would still rather see them combined then separate though. Start to bring the scene together as a whole.



You guys realize there is a mute button and maybe now is a good time to start learning some Korean if you truly love gaming because it's one of the official languages.


Normal life solution to bad English cast: strive to improve the English cast.

TL solution to bad English cast: learn an obscure language spoken which is useless outside of one small country on the other side of the world.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
August 29 2013 07:16 GMT
#474
On August 29 2013 05:24 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 05:19 Witten wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.



MMA is a good player now.

Very far from what he was.. or what he could be... remember the MMA/MVP era.. when does guys were close to unbeatable.
Maru | Life | herO
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
August 29 2013 07:18 GMT
#475
On August 29 2013 16:02 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
On August 28 2013 10:15 giririsss wrote:
On August 28 2013 09:35 dabom88 wrote:
On August 28 2013 06:45 giririsss wrote:
On August 28 2013 03:31 TAMinator wrote:
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother

Behind this.

And i watched some GSTL.

It was hard to take a lot of it seriously though with several of the teams being so weak, but it was good to see how people you usually on see in europe/america now (MMA/Ryung for e.g.) perform against koreans in korea.

I'm in the other boat.

I don't watch Proleague because:
1. I didn't like the casters in the broadcasts I watched.
2. I did not like a lot of the maps in the Proleague map pool
3. I'm not familiar with the Kespa teams and players. I'm more familiar with the GSTL teams and players, and I like Wolf and Khaldor.



i agree with most of that, and i didn't watch a lot of pro league either, mainly because of the bad casters.

Did watch some though.

Would still rather see them combined then separate though. Start to bring the scene together as a whole.



You guys realize there is a mute button and maybe now is a good time to start learning some Korean if you truly love gaming because it's one of the official languages.


Normal life solution to bad English cast: strive to improve the English cast.

TL solution to bad English cast: learn an obscure language spoken which is useless outside of one small country on the other side of the world.

Hey hey now. It isn't useless outside of that one small country on the other side of the world. There's also North Korea! Very useful skill toi have there.
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
August 29 2013 16:03 GMT
#476
Wow, now Acer has the potentially best terran AND the best female players :O
I'm terranfying
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2013 16:34 GMT
#477
On August 29 2013 16:02 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
On August 28 2013 10:15 giririsss wrote:
On August 28 2013 09:35 dabom88 wrote:
On August 28 2013 06:45 giririsss wrote:
On August 28 2013 03:31 TAMinator wrote:
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother

Behind this.

And i watched some GSTL.

It was hard to take a lot of it seriously though with several of the teams being so weak, but it was good to see how people you usually on see in europe/america now (MMA/Ryung for e.g.) perform against koreans in korea.

I'm in the other boat.

I don't watch Proleague because:
1. I didn't like the casters in the broadcasts I watched.
2. I did not like a lot of the maps in the Proleague map pool
3. I'm not familiar with the Kespa teams and players. I'm more familiar with the GSTL teams and players, and I like Wolf and Khaldor.



i agree with most of that, and i didn't watch a lot of pro league either, mainly because of the bad casters.

Did watch some though.

Would still rather see them combined then separate though. Start to bring the scene together as a whole.



You guys realize there is a mute button and maybe now is a good time to start learning some Korean if you truly love gaming because it's one of the official languages.


Normal life solution to bad English cast: strive to improve the English cast.

TL solution to bad English cast: learn an obscure language spoken which is useless outside of one small country on the other side of the world.


I think it would be much cooler for people to learn the Korean language if you truly are invested in the scene. Not everyone is going to enjoy every caster out there even the big names. You think I listen to guys like Artosis and Tasteless nowadays? No sir. When you know what's happening you don't necessarily need a voice in your head to enjoy the games. My friends and I hardly listen to them nowadays and instead we just talk amongst ourselves as the game progresses.

I find it hard to believe that you would call Korean useless when one of your hobbies is following competitive gaming. For all I know you might actually enjoy the culture as well. :V
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 29 2013 16:37 GMT
#478
On August 29 2013 16:16 jarod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 05:24 Aeromi wrote:
On August 29 2013 05:19 Witten wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.



MMA is a good player now.

Very far from what he was.. or what he could be... remember the MMA/MVP era.. when does guys were close to unbeatable.

Yea but Mvp has fallen about as far as MMA, and he isn't on a foreign team.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 16:41:52
August 29 2013 16:41 GMT
#479
On August 30 2013 01:37 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 16:16 jarod wrote:
On August 29 2013 05:24 Aeromi wrote:
On August 29 2013 05:19 Witten wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if he drops off hard like most strong Korean players who move over to foreign teams.



MMA is a good player now.

Very far from what he was.. or what he could be... remember the MMA/MVP era.. when does guys were close to unbeatable.

Yea but Mvp has fallen about as far as MMA, and he isn't on a foreign team.


If there's one big lesson to be learnt it's that playing Terran at the highest level will eventually make your wrists implode.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 29 2013 16:41 GMT
#480
Innovation fell out in the ro16 season finals from the shock upon seeing his to-be team jersey
Refer to my post.
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