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Innovation will join Acer on September 1 - Page 22

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winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
August 27 2013 16:43 GMT
#421
would rather see acer sponsors soul

Esf fan here.
Incredible Miracle
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19400 Posts
August 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#422
This move was so dull I'm not surprised Innovation was involved.
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Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
August 27 2013 17:12 GMT
#423
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 27 2013 18:12 GMT
#424
Wow, such crazy news. Good luck to him on his new team!
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skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 18:19:40
August 27 2013 18:17 GMT
#425
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
August 27 2013 18:31 GMT
#426
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
August 27 2013 19:19 GMT
#427
On August 28 2013 03:31 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother



100% agree with that
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
August 27 2013 19:52 GMT
#428
you know slasher you could starting to work for the CIA and maybe they'll actually get something done with you on board.
what quote?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
August 27 2013 19:59 GMT
#429
So I haven't read this whole thread or even more then the OP and a few posts after.

Has money been mentioned? How much will he get? I'm pretty sure he should likly be the highest paid guy but would be nice to know
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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
August 27 2013 20:05 GMT
#430
Ho....ly... Check!
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
August 27 2013 20:38 GMT
#431
On August 27 2013 23:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On August 27 2013 21:55 Markwerf wrote:
Looks good for Acer but might as well be his downfall not having the top training partners anymore..


You know that Acer has two training houses right? Axiom and Acer house. One in Korean and one in Germany, why wouldn't he have top training partners?


Because the top players in the world aren't at either of those training houses....
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 27 2013 20:51 GMT
#432
On August 28 2013 00:58 metroid composite wrote:
I do hope Innovation stays in WCS Korea. That way, in the same weekend we can have Scarlett winning WCS AM, MMA winning WCS EU, and Inno winning WCS Korea.

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On August 27 2013 21:55 Markwerf wrote:
Looks good for Acer but might as well be his downfall not having the top training partners anymore..


Well...let's see what Aligulac has to say about these training partners...

2. KR P Trap 1571 1541 1470 1703
3. KR P Dear 1548 1517 1526 1599
4. KR P Classic 1483 1413 1537 1501
5. KR Z hyvaa 1399 1451 1422 1325
6. KR P Mini 1304 1300 1379 1233
7. KR Z YoungJoo 1100 1055 1228 1019


ok, now let's look at axiom-acer...

1. KR T MMA 1773 1729 1745 1844
2. CA Z Scarlett 1689 1730 1715 1622
1. KR P Alicia 1630 1617 1743 1530
2. KR T Ryung 1615 1490 1736 1617
3. KR T Heart 1444 1452 1413 1466
4. KR P CranK 1420 1460 1345 1455

Hmmmm

Maybe we should be speculating what Innovation will do with stronger practice partners (at least when it comes to Terran and Zerg--STX toss are probably better than Axiom toss).


That is terribly misleading for a huge number of reasons.

1st The way Aligulac works is that it ranks depending on how many and how often people face each other. For the KeSPA koreans, especially the ones that don't get to attend foreign tournaments, GSTL and maybe no GSL or OSL, very often it means they have a very, very deflated rating compared to where they would realistically be.

2 What's to say Innovation doesn't have practice partners outside his team? I'm quite sure he does, everyone does, Flash trained a bit with Soulkey and Rain when he was eliminated from GSL, you could consider him some of his great rivals, and yet he practiced with them. Practice partners goes above and beyond team houses as anyone whom you know or are a friend with can be a potential practice partner provided he doesn't have time constraints at that moment.

3rd This one is right up there in importance with practice partners and its ladder practice. Now sources conflict on whether or not Innovation practices more with partners or on the ladder, however in case he practices on ladder then moving him from Korea to EU is a tremendous mistake, his skills would potentially drop drastically since neither the EU or NA ladder really compare to the KR ladder in terms of quality practice.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 21:05:00
August 27 2013 21:04 GMT
#433
On August 28 2013 05:51 Destructicon wrote:
2 What's to say Innovation doesn't have practice partners outside his team? I'm quite sure he does, everyone does, Flash trained a bit with Soulkey and Rain when he was eliminated from GSL, you could consider him some of his great rivals, and yet he practiced with them. Practice partners goes above and beyond team houses as anyone whom you know or are a friend with can be a potential practice partner provided he doesn't have time constraints at that moment.


So my question about this kinda got buried in the flood of responses, but I was under the impression that Kespa players only practiced with people outside the team with their Coach's approval, since their daily routines are so regimented. Which so far looks to be limited to players on other Kespa teams (I base this on post-game practice partner shout-outs, it's almost never non-Kespa players thanking Kespa players).

Is this true at all? Or are things more flexible and it's just because Kespa peeps already know each other / are friendly offline or other reasons?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2013 21:11 GMT
#434
You guys are assuming all players actually play together when certain players have been on record stating they don't necessarily do so. I wouldn't pay much attention to the Aligulac scores either for several reasons. Teams have several practice partners regardless of team affiliation, especially when it comes to KeSPA; furthermore, there are players out there who don't have all the accolades in competitive play but they're great for getting reps in against. You guys remember what Artosis used to say about PuMa right? lol When certain players are under no pressure go figure. Anyway, you hear several players mentioned in winner interviews that you wouldn't necessarily expect or know because in many cases they're just practice partners trying to earn their stripes to make a team. It's common, so I'd hold off the training/practice partners comparisons.
giririsss
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia10 Posts
August 27 2013 21:45 GMT
#435
On August 28 2013 03:31 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother

Behind this.

And i watched some GSTL.

It was hard to take a lot of it seriously though with several of the teams being so weak, but it was good to see how people you usually on see in europe/america now (MMA/Ryung for e.g.) perform against koreans in korea.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3823 Posts
August 27 2013 22:11 GMT
#436
Might explain why he's been on such a downer lately. Contract talks distracting him!
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
August 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#437
On August 28 2013 03:31 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

I personally prefer GSTL's allkill format, but do enjoy proleague much more. Would be nice if they can merge together. Would be nice to see both groups of teams playing eachother


Especially having such a big Team League would be awesome!
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Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 00:22:54
August 28 2013 00:20 GMT
#438
On August 28 2013 03:17 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 02:12 Akaann wrote:
wow. Axiom Acer are gonna kill everything next GSTL season 0.o Can't wait to see how Inno s skill level is changning now. Think he has pretty good training in de Ax/Acer house. Scarlett proves it....


Does anybody even watch gstl anymore? I watch alot of starcraft and i think i managed to watch 2 matches last season. Proleague is so much better imo. I love gsl, but gstl is kinda dull. When IM and MVP leave and join proleague(if it happens) they might as well not even have a gstl season.

well, the viewship disagree with you. gstl generally have more viewers than SPL, although PL does have more matches.
And No team is join proleague, no IM no ace no MVP. It's simply too expensive that no other can afford.
I do wish they'd merge like NBA did, but highly unlikely
iCheeseUcry
Profile Joined February 2012
United States18 Posts
August 28 2013 00:24 GMT
#439
Holy smokes!!!
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 28 2013 00:26 GMT
#440
Will Acer pick up some more of STX SOuls players?
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