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On October 07 2013 03:17 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague What are these workaround steps of ESF? Sorry if I'm missing something. However, didn't the next season of ProLeague already get announced some time ago?
Even if ProLeague is announced, there is nothing to stop from these teams to annul their SC2 squads.
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On October 07 2013 01:51 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 01:13 Xiphos wrote:On October 07 2013 00:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:11 DiMano wrote:On October 06 2013 22:33 GTR wrote:
Looks like his comeback ended quite quickly =/ What happened? Apparently Pure was streaming BW on afreeca. So everyone took a guess, that he did not really switched to SC2. From this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391453¤tpage=41On October 06 2013 20:48 Ryo wrote:On October 06 2013 20:44 Epoxide wrote:
Wait, didn't he recently start playing SC2 or something? I think he's done with that. That's what Pure told Jaehoon a couple weeks ago when he visited him. Latest thing I read from dcinside is that Pure had a conversation with Midas over the phone during his broadcast and he told Midas that he's no longer with Jinair because there's no future for SC2 anymore. 
Haha so good. Sc2 has no future, starts streaming BW. Makes sense though, must get some donation just like Bisu, so for him that is probably true. And making money as a pro in Korea only is pretty hard, especially on Kespa teams. Wouldn't mind a small comeback of BW content from Korea.
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On October 07 2013 03:23 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 03:17 UmberBane wrote:On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague What are these workaround steps of ESF? Sorry if I'm missing something. However, didn't the next season of ProLeague already get announced some time ago? Even if ProLeague is announced, there is nothing to stop from these teams to annul their SC2 squads.
Is there? I could simply imagine that KeSPA would have at least talked things through with its teams' managements before putting out the next ProLeague season.
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On August 23 2013 15:38 Grobyc wrote:I still remember Pure's really nice contain break vs Zero @ Fighting Spirit for some reason. + Show Spoiler +Pure fighting!
Outch my drones!
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On October 07 2013 03:46 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 03:23 Xiphos wrote:On October 07 2013 03:17 UmberBane wrote:On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague What are these workaround steps of ESF? Sorry if I'm missing something. However, didn't the next season of ProLeague already get announced some time ago? Even if ProLeague is announced, there is nothing to stop from these teams to annul their SC2 squads. Is there? I could simply imagine that KeSPA would have at least talked things through with its teams' managements before putting out the next ProLeague season.
Kespa runs Proleague, unlike OSL. There would not be that kind of discrepancy.
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On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague
Why would CJ cancel their team if they just hired Coach Park?
Why would Samsung cancel if they still have a team and Stork renewed his contract?
Pure was new to Starcraft 2, it would have always been unclear whether he would take to the game, JinAir might still have enough players to participate in proleague.
SKT and KT are still alive and kicking.
That's a possible five teams, not taking into account IM, MVP and Prime, which have left eSF(right?). There could be a new proleague.
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I believe Pure joining Jin Air originally is just to fulfill his remaining contract when he was on WEMADE FOX.
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On October 07 2013 03:02 purakushi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 01:51 Ryo wrote:On October 07 2013 01:13 Xiphos wrote:On October 07 2013 00:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:11 DiMano wrote:On October 06 2013 22:33 GTR wrote:
Looks like his comeback ended quite quickly =/ What happened? Apparently Pure was streaming BW on afreeca. So everyone took a guess, that he did not really switched to SC2. From this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391453¤tpage=41On October 06 2013 20:48 Ryo wrote:On October 06 2013 20:44 Epoxide wrote:
Wait, didn't he recently start playing SC2 or something? I think he's done with that. That's what Pure told Jaehoon a couple weeks ago when he visited him. Latest thing I read from dcinside is that Pure had a conversation with Midas over the phone during his broadcast and he told Midas that he's no longer with Jinair because there's no future for SC2 anymore. So true. Glad to see he's streaming BW.
Is this kind of shit the only thing you post? It's not constructive at all, and it's borderline trolling at this point.
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On October 07 2013 06:00 Grumbels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague Why would CJ cancel their team if they just hired Coach Park? Why would Samsung cancel if they still have a team and Stork renewed his contract? Pure was new to Starcraft 2, it would have always been unclear whether he would take to the game, JinAir might still have enough players to participate in proleague. SKT and KT are still alive and kicking. That's a possible five teams, not taking into account IM, MVP and Prime, which have left eSF(right?). There could be a new proleague.
Nope, regardless of what logic says we must embrace that sc2 is going to die, because that is what we do here on TL.
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On October 07 2013 06:00 Grumbels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague Why would CJ cancel their team if they just hired Coach Park? Why would Samsung cancel if they still have a team and Stork renewed his contract? Pure was new to Starcraft 2, it would have always been unclear whether he would take to the game, JinAir might still have enough players to participate in proleague. SKT and KT are still alive and kicking. That's a possible five teams, not taking into account IM, MVP and Prime, which have left eSF(right?). There could be a new proleague.
lol, look at Stork's stats + Show Spoiler +All: 3-15 (16.67%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L L L L W L L
And also he was the first who tried to defend players' rights and stated about KeSPA being careless with BW.
I wish Pure to improve and perform well in Brood War tournaments. It's nice to see SOSPA scene strengthening.
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On October 07 2013 07:35 coolman123123 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 03:02 purakushi wrote:On October 07 2013 01:51 Ryo wrote:On October 07 2013 01:13 Xiphos wrote:On October 07 2013 00:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:11 DiMano wrote:On October 06 2013 22:33 GTR wrote:
Looks like his comeback ended quite quickly =/ What happened? Apparently Pure was streaming BW on afreeca. So everyone took a guess, that he did not really switched to SC2. From this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391453¤tpage=41On October 06 2013 20:48 Ryo wrote:On October 06 2013 20:44 Epoxide wrote:
Wait, didn't he recently start playing SC2 or something? I think he's done with that. That's what Pure told Jaehoon a couple weeks ago when he visited him. Latest thing I read from dcinside is that Pure had a conversation with Midas over the phone during his broadcast and he told Midas that he's no longer with Jinair because there's no future for SC2 anymore. So true. Glad to see he's streaming BW. Is this kind of shit the only thing you post? It's not constructive at all, and it's borderline trolling at this point.
Because doing the opposite would be constructive and would uplift SC2 in korea, right?
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So it will be a 2 team proleague? :D
SKT vs KT...
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On October 07 2013 18:06 AleXoundOS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 06:00 Grumbels wrote:On October 07 2013 03:09 itsdaniel wrote:
If we take the workaround steps of ESF into account as to why this GSTL was even able to get started, here are some sad facts:
KT, SKT seem to be secured...no suprise at all
CJ: rumors about cancellation of the team - future unknown
Samsung: All players participated in old Khan uniforms @ the wcs prelims but the team isn't even called like that anymore. I see khan's/Galaxy's highly questionable, also because of potential ace players besides maybe roro
SOUL: GSTL & Proleague participation - impossible, kespa won't be much of a help anymore as i heard.
Jinair: the help might have been too late for team8 + the departure of pure is a strong sign torwards clearance of the squad.
Woongjin: no real squad at all to participate in team leagues, still with + 3 b teamers still playing there
EGTL: no more team house - what else should be said?
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it should be clear that this can only mean the cancellation of proleague Why would CJ cancel their team if they just hired Coach Park? Why would Samsung cancel if they still have a team and Stork renewed his contract? Pure was new to Starcraft 2, it would have always been unclear whether he would take to the game, JinAir might still have enough players to participate in proleague. SKT and KT are still alive and kicking. That's a possible five teams, not taking into account IM, MVP and Prime, which have left eSF(right?). There could be a new proleague. lol, look at Stork's stats + Show Spoiler +All: 3-15 (16.67%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L L L L W L L . Sorry, but his contact renewal is not that meaningful for team anymore. And also he was the first who tried to defend players' rights and stated about KeSPA being careless with BW. I wish Pure to improve and perform well in Brood War tournaments. It's nice to see SOSPA scene strengthening.
If Stork is doing badly, why wouldn't he leave the game unless there was something like proleague?
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On October 07 2013 19:48 shaftofpleasure wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 07:35 coolman123123 wrote:On October 07 2013 03:02 purakushi wrote:On October 07 2013 01:51 Ryo wrote:On October 07 2013 01:13 Xiphos wrote:On October 07 2013 00:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On October 07 2013 00:11 DiMano wrote:On October 06 2013 22:33 GTR wrote:
Looks like his comeback ended quite quickly =/ What happened? Apparently Pure was streaming BW on afreeca. So everyone took a guess, that he did not really switched to SC2. From this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391453¤tpage=41On October 06 2013 20:48 Ryo wrote:On October 06 2013 20:44 Epoxide wrote:
Wait, didn't he recently start playing SC2 or something? I think he's done with that. That's what Pure told Jaehoon a couple weeks ago when he visited him. Latest thing I read from dcinside is that Pure had a conversation with Midas over the phone during his broadcast and he told Midas that he's no longer with Jinair because there's no future for SC2 anymore. So true. Glad to see he's streaming BW. Is this kind of shit the only thing you post? It's not constructive at all, and it's borderline trolling at this point. Because doing the opposite would be constructive and would uplift SC2 in korea, right?
Yeah, right, neither thing helps, but i think everyone prefers to meet the death with a smile on one's face.
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