• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:01
CET 18:01
KST 02:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA)
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2205 users

WCS S2 Finals: Maru, The Prince On the Summit (Group D Pre…

Forum Index > SC2 General
113 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10134 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 19:27:31
August 22 2013 19:08 GMT
#101
On August 23 2013 00:37 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 22:50 Irre wrote:
but saying that Maru has a SLIGHT advantage vs Scarlett....give me a break. Maru is currently the reigning KR champion and you are going to tell me hes going to lose to a foreigner?


Aligulac is 52-48 on Maru vs Scarlett, for what it's worth. According to Aligulac, her odds look better against Maru's TvZ than they do against MMA's TvZ.

They play on different regions. Aligulac doesn't handle that well.

For example, check this out

    (1835) LucifroN  0-0  Maru (1876)        
---------------------------------------------
23.22% 2-0 0-2 26.85%
24.06% 2-1 1-2 25.87%
---------------------------------------------
47.27% 52.73%

Median outcome: LucifroN 1-2 Maru

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 22 2013 19:36 GMT
#102
Go Scarlett! Love from Delaware!
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 22 2013 20:57 GMT
#103
I'm actually going to go with MMA and Scarlett, MMA has been looking really good lately and I think that the fact he doesn't play in Korea as much benefits him vs. Maru.

Either way, I'm beginning to get extremely psyched by the upcoming finals!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 22 2013 21:05 GMT
#104
i wouldn't worry about aligulac too much for maru, pretty sure he had damn low chances of beating all his bracket opponents in OSL
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 22 2013 21:37 GMT
#105
Good background info and hype on Maru! I needed something to read today while waiting around and this is great, thank you!
Support your esport!
Rube_Juice
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada348 Posts
August 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#106
GO GO SCARLETT I BELIEVE!!!!!
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
August 22 2013 23:26 GMT
#107
On August 22 2013 13:45 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 12:23 Marou wrote:
On August 22 2013 10:30 Xarles wrote:
Go Maru!!!!

If only Prime began selling those Sith hoodies again. Would be awesome to see the Maru fan-crowd show up in those


http://primezzang.net/product/프라임-동계-유니폼-상의-하의-풀셋-/SFSELFAA0000176/?main_cate_no=&display_group=1

Maru Hwaiting !


I think he means the hoodie before that one - it had a bit of a shine to the hood. (Dammit, I should've bought some Prime swag before the store got stomped down to just the latest hoodie. Now I can only hope opterown grows tired of his and decides to ebay.)

Speaking of that paragon of LR legend, I believe that Maru will get out of this group.

I believe he will, however, do it in second place, because Scarlett knows how to destroy terrans.

Yeah this one http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/6913830204_bd47e358df_c.jpg
I wanted to get one around the time of the MLG Winter Arena, but it was sold out. I'd always check up on it once a week, but no luck.
Solux
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia3 Posts
August 23 2013 00:14 GMT
#108
I think Maru has the edge on Scarlett if he cheeses and isn't picked up at the first possible opportunity.

If it goes beyond that and Scarlett defends the first push, Maru hasn't been stomping quite in TvZ as hard as people seem to be estimating. He lost to soO and dropped a game to Symbol, so Scarlett has a chance if it comes to that match.

Also, people looking at Scarlett's ZvT or MMA's TvZ in that matchup need to remember they're teammates and know each other's style incredibly well. It makes the match between them difficult to call in ways predicting any other match in those matchups isn't. It'll probably come down to if MMA makes a mistake, which he sometimes does. The balance between the two is very well put by Stuchiu in that whoever wins the first round is not necessarily likely to win the second if there is one.

aLive just isn't up to the standard required here. There are players he might have fared better against in other groups, but he's had a relatively easy run through WCS America.

Maru > Alive
MMA > Scarlett
Maru > MMA
Scarlett > Alive
Scarlett > MMA

seems pretty right with the possibility of either Scarlett or MMA playing Maru and the one who plays aLive making it out of the group.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#109
if Maru meets Polt in the season finals and beats him

will Maru be the one TRUE OptimusPrime?
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 23 2013 00:47 GMT
#110
This group will have my on the edge of my seat, Scarlett should be able to make it but the terrans are so damn good too.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 23 2013 00:54 GMT
#111
On August 23 2013 09:43 mikumegurine wrote:
if Maru meets Polt in the season finals and beats him

will Maru be the one TRUE OptimusPrime?


He'll be a Deceptacon for killing Optimus!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12377 Posts
August 23 2013 06:18 GMT
#112
I think Maru will crash and burn in this. MMA + Scarlett advance.
No will to live, no wish to die
Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
August 23 2013 07:57 GMT
#113
Nice write-ups.

Maru and Scarlett
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 19:33:29
August 23 2013 19:31 GMT
#114
it's time for maru's little streak to end :O
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko450
SKillous 261
BRAT_OK 110
Livibee 91
MindelVK 30
DivinesiaTV 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1181
Shuttle 1169
firebathero 235
Rush 155
Rock 63
zelot 58
Movie 49
Mong 46
Sexy 39
JulyZerg 12
[ Show more ]
SilentControl 9
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva5071
syndereN620
XcaliburYe483
BananaSlamJamma323
Fuzer 236
febbydoto20
canceldota20
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0429
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor224
Other Games
Grubby7361
singsing1960
B2W.Neo394
ToD122
ArmadaUGS118
Beastyqt71
Trikslyr27
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 40
• 3DClanTV 29
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• Michael_bg 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV761
• Ler64
League of Legends
• Nemesis3038
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
2h 59m
Sziky vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
16h 59m
Krystianer vs Classic
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs Ryung
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
1d
BSL 21
1d 2h
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Wardi Open
1d 18h
OSC
2 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1 - W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1 - W2
Escore Tournament S1 - W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.