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I think this was a simple business decision by Mous.
They likely signed Vortix and Lucifron to fairly lucrative contracts. Illusion likely cost them more than most of the other players on their roster in terms of overhead simply because he was so much further away than any of their other players. Illusion was also likely getting a paid something. Illusion's results were okay but not spectacular. So cutting him to save some money likely makes a ton of sense budget wise.
I would say that before the Duran brothers were picked up he was easily the 3rd best player on Mous (behind Mana and Hasu and definitely ahead of Hope and HeroMarine don't just look at the Aligulac stats look at the competition they faced and it is pretty obvious). Now that the Duran brothers are on Mous he really doesn't fit.
As for his future that should be interesting. Root has stated that they are not looking for more players (they have a hude roster already), I can't see EG signing him after they already signed Xenocider, Acer and Axiom are looking for players but they seem more like teams that like the high end foreigners and Koreans. Maybe Quantic,Complexity or xMi? Should be interesting.
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On July 18 2013 10:42 FSKi wrote:
Saw this coming. He was on an upswing of results before signing with them, and since hasn't really shown many results iirc.
It's hard to show results nowadays, especially since Illusion missed out on a few NA-only tournaments (Shoutcraft, MLG Summer, etc)
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On July 18 2013 10:17 Prof wrote:
I would say that before the Duran brothers were picked up he was easily the 3rd best player on Mous (behind Mana and Hasu and definitely ahead of Hope and HeroMarine
No disrespect but Illusion definitely isn't better then Hero Marine.
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On July 18 2013 11:19 Rickyvalle21 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 10:17 Prof wrote:
I would say that before the Duran brothers were picked up he was easily the 3rd best player on Mous (behind Mana and Hasu and definitely ahead of Hope and HeroMarine No disrespect but Illusion definitely isn't better then Hero Marine.
I'm pretty sure Illusion had higher ladder rankings than HeroMarine and better tourny results...
I maybe not, but neither has much if you look at liquipedia.
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On July 18 2013 11:24 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:19 Rickyvalle21 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:17 Prof wrote:
I would say that before the Duran brothers were picked up he was easily the 3rd best player on Mous (behind Mana and Hasu and definitely ahead of Hope and HeroMarine No disrespect but Illusion definitely isn't better then Hero Marine. I'm pretty sure Illusion had higher ladder rankings than HeroMarine and better tourny results... I maybe not, but neither has much if you look at liquipedia.
There's no way he is better than HeroMarine, I like Illusion, but I just don't see that at all. You can look at results etc, but Illusion has hardly any either. HeroMarine is very young and doesn't play in many tourneys, but from watching them both play HeroMarine is clearly better.
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On July 18 2013 11:32 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 11:24 SupLilSon wrote:On July 18 2013 11:19 Rickyvalle21 wrote:On July 18 2013 10:17 Prof wrote:
I would say that before the Duran brothers were picked up he was easily the 3rd best player on Mous (behind Mana and Hasu and definitely ahead of Hope and HeroMarine No disrespect but Illusion definitely isn't better then Hero Marine. I'm pretty sure Illusion had higher ladder rankings than HeroMarine and better tourny results... I maybe not, but neither has much if you look at liquipedia. There's no way he is better than HeroMarine, I like Illusion, but I just don't see that at all. You can look at results etc, but Illusion has hardly any either. HeroMarine is very young and doesn't play in many tourneys, but from watching them both play HeroMarine is clearly better.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I've watched them both play quite a bit and I have the exact opposite impression. Too me it is fairly obvious that Illusion is currently the better player. Who knows HeroMarine is young and he might surpass Illusion in the future but right now I just don't see it.
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HeroMarine would beat him 9 out of 10 times. He isn't even a full time gamer.
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On July 18 2013 13:13 Bizeheryer wrote:
HeroMarine would beat him 9 out of 10 times. He isn't even a full time gamer.
Once again I disagree. But that is just my opinion. As I said I believe Illusion is currently the better player. I also believe the fact that Mous used him as an ace in the ATC rather than HeroMarine or Hope leads me to believe that they think Illusion is a better player currently as well.
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He likely wanted more money, or Mouz didn't want to pay him anymore. Does hurt the mouz a bit. I wonder if they will go after a player like Select, he was on Dignatas, so he isn't a stranger to European teams.
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Hmm, that's too bad. Apparently they're wanting to focus more on their European players. I hope this pushes Illusion to focus more and buckle down so that he can maximize his potential.
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Good luck Illusion!
One of the only decent foreigner terrans
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i always thought it was weird having an american terran on mouz
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No prob, Illusion can rely on the safety net provided by the great infrastructure of NA SC2... 0_o
Looks like a bad spot for him, especially since he has´t had any break-out performances so far (IIRC).
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it's simple select recruited him to team daddy and sons.
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To me he still was Vile.illusion so... yeah.
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On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match
I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.
Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.
I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.
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On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:in Europe it's just not a great match
I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.
that's sad
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On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually. Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel. I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.
yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.
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EPT
