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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 18 2013 15:31 GMT
#101
On July 19 2013 00:18 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.

Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.

I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.


yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.


To be fair, Mouz sorta came outta nowhere after picking up Duran Duran. Now all of a sudden they're a top tier team, like Slacer.

I, for one, am super stoked that Mouz is awesome now because they've been around for so long. Now I just hope 4Kings and TSG start SC2 teams ^_^
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 15:38:51
July 18 2013 15:33 GMT
#102
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.


That is quite surprinsing, Mouz/Liquid/Mill/Acer are the best EU-teams and if you reduce it on the foreign lignup, Mouz is the best team in the world.

On July 19 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 00:18 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.

Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.

I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.


yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.


To be fair, Mouz sorta came outta nowhere after picking up Duran Duran. Now all of a sudden they're a top tier team, like Slacer.

I, for one, am super stoked that Mouz is awesome now because they've been around for so long. Now I just hope 4Kings and TSG start SC2 teams ^_^


Out of nowhere is a bit over the top, they defeated Quantic, Axiom and Root, before Duran Duran got hired. But yes, the signing of those two really brought back the tradition of the big 4 in Mouz (MaNa, HasuObs, Morrow Vortix, ThorZaIN LucifroN)
Flamehaze
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland67 Posts
July 18 2013 15:38 GMT
#103
Clear money cut move, and good one they got atm best foreign T(Lucifron) proly best upcoming foreign T(Heromarine),One of best foreign Z(Vortix) after Naniwa proly 2nd best toss(Mana) plus Hasuobs(id rank him Top 5 EU toss ish hard to tell tbh) and hope(still didnt break out aside some nice kills in ATC).Id say on paper its hands down best foreign only team.They should just focus on keeping players they got happy,training hard and send them to events they can attend..
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
July 18 2013 15:39 GMT
#104
I would like to see him on an american team. Like Root or EG.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 18 2013 16:32 GMT
#105
I love Scarlett on Slacer, but if Mouz somehow picked her up that'd be incredible. Really vicious teamleague lineup, especially if they added another top Terran.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 18 2013 16:39 GMT
#106
On July 19 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 00:18 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.

Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.

I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.


yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.


To be fair, Mouz sorta came outta nowhere after picking up Duran Duran. Now all of a sudden they're a top tier team, like Slacer.

I, for one, am super stoked that Mouz is awesome now because they've been around for so long. Now I just hope 4Kings and TSG start SC2 teams ^_^

Mouz has been around for ages. Hasu, Mana, Morrow, Thorzain...don't know how one could say they came out of nowhere with a straight face.
Get off my lawn, young punks
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
July 18 2013 16:48 GMT
#107
Sad to hear. I think Illusion has been an up and comer for a while. Considering how young he is, I would only expect better results.

Best of luck to him in finding a new team.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 18 2013 17:30 GMT
#108
On July 19 2013 01:39 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
On July 19 2013 00:18 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.

Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.

I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.


yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.


To be fair, Mouz sorta came outta nowhere after picking up Duran Duran. Now all of a sudden they're a top tier team, like Slacer.

I, for one, am super stoked that Mouz is awesome now because they've been around for so long. Now I just hope 4Kings and TSG start SC2 teams ^_^

Mouz has been around for ages. Hasu, Mana, Morrow, Thorzain...don't know how one could say they came out of nowhere with a straight face.

Thorzain went to EG ages ago and Morrow hasn't been relevant since switching to Zerg. And let's be honest, Hasu is well known and loved... but he isn't exactly brought up when you think of top tier foreigners nowadays. They haven't really been in the spotlight in a while. So yes, they did kind of come out of nowhere after recruiting the brothers.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
July 18 2013 17:34 GMT
#109
Wading through all the negativity and speculation from this thread I have to say Illusion’s place on Mouz always did seem a little off. Sure a foreigner team doesn’t have to just stick with players from their region. Both EG and Liquid (NA and EU teams) have (or have had at some point in time) a healthy mix of European and American (and of course Korean) players on their roster. Mouz have always been very Euro-centric though, the same way Empire has always been very Russia/Eastern Euro-centric.

Mouz have suffered a pretty bad fall from grace, going from one of the true contenders of best foreigner team in 2011 to not even been worth a footnote in 2012. They’ve recently received a shot in the arm and look to be eager to reclaim their days of past glory. I think it’s a real shame there was no place for Illusion on this new campaign, but at the same time it doesn’t really come as a complete surprise.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 18 2013 17:42 GMT
#110
On July 19 2013 02:30 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 01:39 ACrow wrote:
On July 19 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
On July 19 2013 00:18 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.

Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.

I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.


yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.


To be fair, Mouz sorta came outta nowhere after picking up Duran Duran. Now all of a sudden they're a top tier team, like Slacer.

I, for one, am super stoked that Mouz is awesome now because they've been around for so long. Now I just hope 4Kings and TSG start SC2 teams ^_^

Mouz has been around for ages. Hasu, Mana, Morrow, Thorzain...don't know how one could say they came out of nowhere with a straight face.

Thorzain went to EG ages ago and Morrow hasn't been relevant since switching to Zerg. And let's be honest, Hasu is well known and loved... but he isn't exactly brought up when you think of top tier foreigners nowadays. They haven't really been in the spotlight in a while. So yes, they did kind of come out of nowhere after recruiting the brothers.


Hasu 4-0´ed his challenger group (including Nani), won his Premier group over Dayhsi, Dimaga and duckdeok (who he also defeated 2-0 in challenger league), is 3-0 in SC2L over TLO and MMA, leads the EPS rankings. He is without a doubt a top tier foreigner, he just attends not enough premier tournaments to show that.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 18 2013 17:53 GMT
#111
On July 19 2013 02:30 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 01:39 ACrow wrote:
On July 19 2013 00:31 Crownlol wrote:
On July 19 2013 00:18 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 18 2013 23:26 dcemuser wrote:
On July 18 2013 04:05 DavoS wrote:
He wasn't getting much done outside of ATC anyway, and for a team that's been setting itself up as the cream of the crop in Europe it's just not a great match

I don't think of mouz when I think of top EU team, not at all actually.

Illusion not getting results in a 4 month period is probably not the reason that he left/was let go. It was more likely location/travel.

I doubt Illusion will have issues finding a team, either. He's one of the better foreign Terrans.


yeah lucifron, hasuobs, and vortix are def. not top tier EU players.


To be fair, Mouz sorta came outta nowhere after picking up Duran Duran. Now all of a sudden they're a top tier team, like Slacer.

I, for one, am super stoked that Mouz is awesome now because they've been around for so long. Now I just hope 4Kings and TSG start SC2 teams ^_^

Mouz has been around for ages. Hasu, Mana, Morrow, Thorzain...don't know how one could say they came out of nowhere with a straight face.

Thorzain went to EG ages ago and Morrow hasn't been relevant since switching to Zerg. And let's be honest, Hasu is well known and loved... but he isn't exactly brought up when you think of top tier foreigners nowadays. They haven't really been in the spotlight in a while. So yes, they did kind of come out of nowhere after recruiting the brothers.

Ah, the "what has XYZ done for me recently" point. Yeah, I guess then you can say that they came out of nowhere. Same is true for any team that doesn't have a very recent champion on them.
I think any long time follower of SC2 will know that mouz is a pretty big, European team; hence I don't agree with the came out of nowhere thingie. But w/e I don't have any stake in this and don't want to be too grumpy, so: who's this mouz?
Get off my lawn, young punks
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States896 Posts
July 18 2013 17:59 GMT
#112
Illusion was just kind of injected onto the scene, with some invite-only appearances helping establish his name. I think his age/being young helped his branding.


On July 18 2013 13:41 HeeroFX wrote:
He likely wanted more money, or Mouz didn't want to pay him anymore. Does hurt the mouz a bit. I wonder if they will go after a player like Select, he was on Dignatas, so he isn't a stranger to European teams.


Probably definitely the latter. Was most likely just an option of no pay with potential lan type event funding. I don't see them outright terminating him but hopefully it wasn't a short sighted move on his part to just leave rather than accepting those terms.


Anyhow, best of luck finding a new home Chris.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
July 18 2013 22:14 GMT
#113
He wasn't a true Mouz player, he was merely...an Illusion

*cue CSI: Miami theme*
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mike7603
Profile Joined November 2012
United States37 Posts
July 19 2013 15:15 GMT
#114
Fighting illusion . I think,this time good for you.because muze not fit for you and then you can go to better team
illusion fan
Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
July 19 2013 16:39 GMT
#115
Not sure why people keep saying vortix is worth money still, he was a straight patchzerg, lucifron is so much better than his brother, it just wasn't showed in Wings of Broodlordiberty

User was temp banned for this post.
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Ry2D2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States429 Posts
July 19 2013 22:56 GMT
#116
He left so he could become EGIllusion
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
July 19 2013 23:53 GMT
#117
On July 20 2013 07:56 Ry2D2 wrote:
He left so he could become EGIllusion


i hope not
Mad Scientists
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States18 Posts
July 22 2013 14:53 GMT
#118
He just keeps switcin teamsssss
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