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mousesports and Illusion part ways - Page 4

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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
July 17 2013 20:09 GMT
#61
On July 18 2013 05:08 Larkin wrote:
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On July 18 2013 03:39 grs wrote:
On July 18 2013 03:37 Badfatpanda wrote:
Weird, even though it's almost August we're getting all of these odd-timed releases when resigning is just around the corner.

Good luck to him, seems like a good guy.

Don't get what you mean. There is no fixed time for resigns, or is there?


Kespa contracts end August.

Which is completely irrelevant to mouz and Illusion as I wrote above.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 17 2013 20:10 GMT
#62
Damn, hopefully another team makes an offer soon.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 17 2013 20:20 GMT
#63
But he signed up really recently o.0
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#64
On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
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On July 18 2013 03:31 Bizeheryer wrote:
He is not at the same skill level of the other team members. mouz wants to be the best. Now they started to act like a team with a clear goal.

Very much disagree with you sir. When illusion was picked up, I'd say he was as good as or better than everyone on the team. That's why they picked up a random American when mouz has always been Europe/Korea/China only.

He hasn't been performing over the top like he was before, and mouz got a nice pickup with the Duran brothers, but I wouldn't be so quick to say he's less valuable than HeroMarine and hOpe.

Still, mouz didn't really help illusion develop much as a player. I think this move is better for him than it is for mouz.

Illusion never was anywhere near the level of Mana and Hasuobs.
He made some storylines as a young gun (and NA terran hope) beating some Koreans, but overall he developed a pretty mediocre record (especially vs Koreans).
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 17 2013 20:44 GMT
#65
unfortunate turn, hoping each party the best going forward.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 17 2013 21:03 GMT
#66
Sucks that Mouz is only dealing with EU, hopefully Illusion can find a new team soon!
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BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
July 17 2013 21:08 GMT
#67
On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 03:31 Bizeheryer wrote:
He is not at the same skill level of the other team members. mouz wants to be the best. Now they started to act like a team with a clear goal.

Very much disagree with you sir. When illusion was picked up, I'd say he was as good as or better than everyone on the team. That's why they picked up a random American when mouz has always been Europe/Korea/China only.

He hasn't been performing over the top like he was before, and mouz got a nice pickup with the Duran brothers, but I wouldn't be so quick to say he's less valuable than HeroMarine and hOpe.

Still, mouz didn't really help illusion develop much as a player. I think this move is better for him than it is for mouz.


I'm curious how exactly you think a foreigner team 'develops' a player besides providing financial assistance to keep the player focused on SC2. As far as I'm concerned, mouz was probably having budget issues and needed to cut the dead weight. Illusion hasn't gotten any better in the last year or two and his poor showing at MLG didn't help his case.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
July 17 2013 21:24 GMT
#68
well that was shortlived.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 17 2013 21:30 GMT
#69
On July 18 2013 04:05 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:01 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 18 2013 03:39 grs wrote:
On July 18 2013 03:37 Badfatpanda wrote:
Weird, even though it's almost August we're getting all of these odd-timed releases when resigning is just around the corner.

Good luck to him, seems like a good guy.

Don't get what you mean. There is no fixed time for resigns, or is there?


There isn't ofc, but renewal period generally runs around the August-September months for a majority of SC2 players, especially those on kespa teams.

I don't think Kespa plays a role here Seriously: Just because they have a certain time for resigning, has zero influence on the international scene.


I realize that that's why I said the majority of SC2 players. SC2..players, includes international. Obviously kespa doesn't play a role in this lol.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 17 2013 21:31 GMT
#70
sad to hear, good luck to Illusion !
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 17 2013 21:31 GMT
#71
That was one of the most unexpected recruitments I've seen, I'm not that surprised by this ending. I don't think they were fitting well together. I guess Illusion will go back to an american team (back to Quantic maybe ?).
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shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
July 17 2013 21:36 GMT
#72
On July 18 2013 05:41 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
On July 18 2013 03:31 Bizeheryer wrote:
He is not at the same skill level of the other team members. mouz wants to be the best. Now they started to act like a team with a clear goal.

Very much disagree with you sir. When illusion was picked up, I'd say he was as good as or better than everyone on the team. That's why they picked up a random American when mouz has always been Europe/Korea/China only.

He hasn't been performing over the top like he was before, and mouz got a nice pickup with the Duran brothers, but I wouldn't be so quick to say he's less valuable than HeroMarine and hOpe.

Still, mouz didn't really help illusion develop much as a player. I think this move is better for him than it is for mouz.

Illusion never was anywhere near the level of Mana and Hasuobs.
He made some storylines as a young gun (and NA terran hope) beating some Koreans, but overall he developed a pretty mediocre record (especially vs Koreans).



Prolly not as good as MaNa but I would definately put him on the level of Hasu.
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Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
July 17 2013 21:51 GMT
#73
This will be a good pick of for EGEU...
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
July 17 2013 22:01 GMT
#74
Sad to see this. Illusion has been good and he has so much potential. For a while he was basically the best USA terran but had some tough groups and tough luck in WCS. Hope to see him find another team quickly and get back to winning games!
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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
July 17 2013 22:05 GMT
#75
Years after the glorious years of CS 1.6 mousesports still has not found the right way to promote their players in other games. No comparison to EG, TL or even SK =/
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
July 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#76
GL to illusion finding a new team :D ROOT.Illusion, u heard it here first guys
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StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 23:02:05
July 17 2013 22:56 GMT
#77
i didn't find a thing in this statement that is true or that i agree with.
On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
When illusion was picked up, I'd say he was as good as or better than everyone on the team.

I am not bashing illusion here but to compare him skillwise to mana and hasuobs is silly. If you want a objective comparison go to aligulac.com

On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
That's why they picked up a random American when mouz has always been Europe/Korea/China only.

the mouz sc2 squad had never korean or chinese players on:
http://aligulac.com/teams/22-mousesports/
Where is your source about the reasoning they picked up illusion? Is that your speculation?

On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
He hasn't been performing over the top like he was before, and mouz got a nice pickup with the Duran brothers

When you look at the graph you will see that his performance increased:
http://aligulac.com/players/219-Illusion/


On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
but I wouldn't be so quick to say he's less valuable than HeroMarine and hOpe.

HeroMarine is still in school, only 16 years old and already one of the best terrans in europe. I am definitely not agreeing with you on that comparison.

On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
Still, mouz didn't really help illusion develop much as a player.

How do you know?

On July 18 2013 04:51 Shinta) wrote:
I think this move is better for him than it is for mouz.

Why?
Mouz just picked up 2 great players and has a big line up now.
They had the option to extend the contract. I don't see why it was a mistake.

btw gl to illusion. i am sure he will find a new team.
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NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
July 17 2013 22:57 GMT
#78
illusion is a good player, best of luck to him
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maniac1122
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States111 Posts
July 18 2013 00:36 GMT
#79
illusion knocked me out of one of the local DC/MD/VA area LANS back in 2010



i was one of 2 zerg players in the ro16 and he bunker rushed me

im not kidding fuck that guy
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intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
July 18 2013 01:16 GMT
#80
rip NA sc2
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