Today is last 8th_TRUE game as a progamer plz cheer for him for his last game. He will retire
TRUE will play Bisu tonight in SPL for SKT vs T8, following that match he will retire.
TRUE's most memorable game in Starcraft 2 would have to be his match vs FanTaSy on Whirlwind in the WCS Korea Season 1 2013 RO32 Group D Loser's Match, where both players fought with no economy and low numbers of units for 10 minutes before the game ended.
It is not known if TRUE is one of the 4 players being dropped from Team 8 following this SPL season(source) or if he is retiring willingly.
TRUE was one of the people from Team 8 that I really liked, due to his relationship with MajOr and that interview they did with him where he was just refuting everything they were saying
yeah from the "i know but" video, he seemed to be a pretty funny guy and well liked by his teammates. he seemed to be doing pretty well overall, able to take down very high level players. sorry to see him retire. best of luck to him in whatever his next move may be
TRUE was one of the people from Team 8 that I really liked, due to his relationship with MajOr and that interview they did with him where he was just refuting everything they were saying
TRUE was one of the people from Team 8 that I really liked, due to his relationship with MajOr and that interview they did with him where he was just refuting everything they were saying
Funny he says he will never quit progaming in that segment lol.
That isn't really funny at all. I hope, if he is being dropped by Team 8, he can find a foreign team to join instead. It isn't like he's bad or has no personality.
TRUE was one of the people from Team 8 that I really liked, due to his relationship with MajOr and that interview they did with him where he was just refuting everything they were saying
TRUE was one of the people from Team 8 that I really liked, due to his relationship with MajOr and that interview they did with him where he was just refuting everything they were saying
On July 08 2013 14:34 Cattlecruiser wrote: He was quite innovative, I loved his usage of nydus worms.
I hope this isn't foreshadowing of things to come, however the recent KeSPA announcement doesn't inspire confidence.
Well I'm not sure whether Team 8 losing players necessarily is an indicator of trouble in the scene as a whole considering they still have no title sponsor. As in they were going to have to make cuts if they went this long without a big sponsor anyway. However, the fact that they haven't found a big sponsor certainly is bad but that's nothing new.
It's kind of sad to see Korean players with such potential retire early though because you would think that they could easily make a killing in the foreign scene if they were to get picked up by a foreign team, but I imagine they probably don't want to deal with the huge uncertainties involved in trying to find a new team and relocating and stuff. From his perspective I imagine it's much safer to just go resume his non-progamer life rather (resume school or go to the military) rather than continue on a more uncertain path. Probably parental pressure on that front too.
I remember meeting these Korean people at my second time to the GOM studio. Through broken Keonglish (for those who don't know, that is Korean+English) off of two smart phones and whatever I knew off the top of my head, they told me how they were there for TRUE, how they had watched nearly every one of his for so long. I hope someone can tell him he'll be missed.
On July 08 2013 14:34 Cattlecruiser wrote: He was quite innovative, I loved his usage of nydus worms.
I hope this isn't foreshadowing of things to come, however the recent KeSPA announcement doesn't inspire confidence.
Well I'm not sure whether Team 8 losing players necessarily is an indicator of trouble in the scene as a whole considering they still have no title sponsor. As in they were going to have to make cuts if they went this long without a big sponsor anyway. However, the fact that they haven't found a big sponsor certainly is bad but that's nothing new.
It's kind of sad to see Korean players with such potential retire early though because you would think that they could easily make a killing in the foreign scene if they were to get picked up by a foreign team, but I imagine they probably don't want to deal with the huge uncertainties involved in trying to find a new team and relocating and stuff. From his perspective I imagine it's much safer to just go resume his non-progamer life rather (resume school or go to the military) rather than continue on a more uncertain path. Probably parental pressure on that front too.
Hope the best for True in the future!
His retirement in specific isn't cause for too much concern, but he is 22 years old with a spot in the Challenger League in Korea. If he wasn't performing well for some time or he was 3 years older I wouldn't have second thoughts about his retirement, but it seems a bit strange to retire when he was on the rise. If anything the LoL incorporation will help T8 get a title sponsor, my concern is that sponsors won't be interested in the SC2 side of the team.
Sad to hear. :-/ I guess if he is being dropped from Team 8 it's a tough situation for him since he's already 21. Probably feels he needs to go back to school.
I guess that's what happens when you lose to Bisu in SC2
An interesting question would be: is TRUE one of the people that T8 would supposedly cut alongside MajOr, or is this his choice and therefore completely separate?
TRUE was one of the people from Team 8 that I really liked, due to his relationship with MajOr and that interview they did with him where he was just refuting everything they were saying
Isn't it awesome that the Starcraft scene and community are well developed enough that when a player retires from SC2 there's still a very popular and lively Broodwar competitive scene to go back to. Makes me warm and fuzzy inside. <3 Korean competitive Broodwar might now be closer to semi-professional than truly professional (at least relative to the way it used to be) but the rate at which some of the new Broodwar tournaments seem to be growing despite the lack of support from most of the big E-sports related companies in Korea (Blizzard, GOM, OGN, KeSPA) makes me think that one day, televised professional Broodwar might rise again from the ashes. Its probably still a ways off because they have lost a lot of the infrastructure and money they had built up over the years, but who knows? The future is full of possibilities and I have this strange feeling that I can't shake that we haven't yet seen the last of large scale, television broadcasted, professional Broodwar in Korea. A man can hope right!?
Isn't it awesome that the Starcraft scene and community are well developed enough that when a player retires from SC2 there's still a very popular and lively Broodwar competitive scene to go back to. Makes me warm and fuzzy inside. <3 Korean competitive Broodwar might now be closer to semi-professional than truly professional (at least relative to the way it used to be) but the rate at which some of the new Broodwar tournaments seem to be growing despite the lack of support from most of the big E-sports related companies in Korea (Blizzard, GOM, OGN, KeSPA) makes me think that one day, televised professional Broodwar might rise again from the ashes. Its probably still a ways off because they have lost a lot of the infrastructure and money they had built up over the years, but who knows? The future is full of possibilities and I have this strange feeling that I can't shake that we haven't yet seen the last of large scale, television broadcasted, professional Broodwar in Korea. A man can hope right!?
What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.
This could also be a complication of humor, stemming from the different cultures. Maybe Major tweet was just a joke/rib and True, Instead of actually be the truth itself.
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
It was a joke, bro.
Please stick to spoiling tournaments.
Still dickish.
Please stick to foiling players' chances of winning tournaments.
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
It was a joke, bro.
Please stick to spoiling tournaments.
Still dickish.
Please stick to foiling players' chances of winning tournaments.
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
It was a joke, bro.
Please stick to spoiling tournaments.
Still dickish.
Please stick to foiling players' chances of winning tournaments.
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
It was a joke, bro.
Please stick to spoiling tournaments.
Ha. Ha. Ha. Really funny. Because being an ass is totally the way to being funny.
I don´t got where Fionn was a "ass" or "dickish". MajOr who said himself he was cut from T8, Fionn just made a joke because one can suppose MajOr didn´t fell good about it. I think you guys are just overextending it instead of analyse what Fionn just wrote.
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
Thanks for insider informations. i'd like to hear more.
On July 14 2013 10:27 Taipoka wrote: I don´t got where Fionn was a "ass" or "dickish". MajOr who said himself he was cut from T8, Fionn just made a joke because one can suppose MajOr didn´t fell good about it. I think you guys are just overextending it instead of analyse what Fionn just wrote.
Joke is only a joke if the receiving end didn't get offended. Otherwise, regardless of the intention, apology is needed.
sorry but I am really pumped. One of my favorite players might still be playing for my favorite team, when about a week ago I thought one of my favorite players was retiring and my favorite team was being cut.
On July 14 2013 10:27 Taipoka wrote: I don´t got where Fionn was a "ass" or "dickish". MajOr who said himself he was cut from T8, Fionn just made a joke because one can suppose MajOr didn´t fell good about it. I think you guys are just overextending it instead of analyse what Fionn just wrote.
Joke is only a joke if the receiving end didn't get offended. Otherwise, regardless of the intention, apology is needed.
It's a joke whether it's offensive or not (only the quality is up for debate) and getting offended on someone's behalf and demanding an apology, on a forum, is retarded. Major needs thicker skin and a sense of humour. It was an off-hand, obviously not serious comment and I'm sure he copped way worse in the T8 house.
On July 14 2013 05:22 Fionn wrote: Maybe everyone told Major they were retiring/leaving so he'd feel better about being cut.
?? idiot Thursday
12:19am 방태수 Zz retire because my life poor sibal zz good bye zz
hes been wanting to retire for about 2 months or more now he didnt really play any games during practice during this time just helped members for proleague, he just dosent like the game anymore, only reason he didnt retire before pl finish is because he wanted to finish this season with the team
so before you make ur moronic comments inform yourself. idiot
It was a joke, bro.
Please stick to spoiling tournaments.
Still dickish.
Please stick to foiling players' chances of winning tournaments.
I honestly don't even know why progamers bother to post on these forums, let alone read them. It always results in more bad than good.
On July 14 2013 12:31 6NR wrote: sad. I think team 8 is disbanding?
Behind on the times man. TRUE is maybe not retiring, and T8, or should I say: GREEN WINGS!!!!! isn't going anywhere except for the finals of the next PL.
On July 14 2013 10:27 Taipoka wrote: I don´t got where Fionn was a "ass" or "dickish". MajOr who said himself he was cut from T8, Fionn just made a joke because one can suppose MajOr didn´t fell good about it. I think you guys are just overextending it instead of analyse what Fionn just wrote.
Joke is only a joke if the receiving end didn't get offended. Otherwise, regardless of the intention, apology is needed.
It's a joke whether it's offensive or not (only the quality is up for debate) and getting offended on someone's behalf and demanding an apology, on a forum, is retarded. Major needs thicker skin and a sense of humour. It was an off-hand, obviously not serious comment and I'm sure he copped way worse in the T8 house.
Yeah because he doesn't get shit on enough by people in this community.... smh
On July 14 2013 10:27 Taipoka wrote: I don´t got where Fionn was a "ass" or "dickish". MajOr who said himself he was cut from T8, Fionn just made a joke because one can suppose MajOr didn´t fell good about it. I think you guys are just overextending it instead of analyse what Fionn just wrote.
Joke is only a joke if the receiving end didn't get offended. Otherwise, regardless of the intention, apology is needed.
It's a joke whether it's offensive or not (only the quality is up for debate) and getting offended on someone's behalf and demanding an apology, on a forum, is retarded. Major needs thicker skin and a sense of humour. It was an off-hand, obviously not serious comment and I'm sure he copped way worse in the T8 house.
no, it's not retarded. an insulting joke is both a joke and an insult.
I know that the moment was considering retirement. What about today?
Was having problems at home with my parents a few stories and have never been one to consider. But now I was resolved. Chajihun, JungHwan KIM coach can get his mind again, thank you for the great help. Retirement does not.
I know that the moment was considering retirement. What about today?
Was having problems at home with my parents a few stories and have never been one to consider. But now I was resolved. Chajihun, JungHwan KIM coach can get his mind again, thank you for the great help. Retirement does not.
I'll brush you up a bit "I was having troubles at home with my parents so I was considering retiring after having a few exchanges. However with that finally settled and with the help of the Kim Junghwan coach, he helped me get back the passion for the game so I want to thank him. I will not retire" So yes, TRUE is not retiring. Hurray!
Edit: Also OP should edit the title or something...its been verified.
I know that the moment was considering retirement. What about today?
Was having problems at home with my parents a few stories and have never been one to consider. But now I was resolved. Chajihun, JungHwan KIM coach can get his mind again, thank you for the great help. Retirement does not.
I'll brush you up a bit "I was having troubles at home with my parents so I was considering retiring after having a few exchanges. However with that finally settled and with the help of the Kim Junghwan coach, he helped me get back the passion for the game so I want to thank him. I will not retire" So yes, TRUE is not retiring. Hurray!
Edit: Also OP should edit the title or something...its been verified.
I know that the moment was considering retirement. What about today?
Was having problems at home with my parents a few stories and have never been one to consider. But now I was resolved. Chajihun, JungHwan KIM coach can get his mind again, thank you for the great help. Retirement does not.
I'll brush you up a bit "I was having troubles at home with my parents so I was considering retiring after having a few exchanges. However with that finally settled and with the help of the Kim Junghwan coach, he helped me get back the passion for the game so I want to thank him. I will not retire" So yes, TRUE is not retiring. Hurray!
Edit: Also OP should edit the title or something...its been verified.
Is he staying on T8, though?
Well in his interview it also mentions he's been practicing with Terminator for his games and he thinks his Jin Air coach has a pretty sexy zerg and continually thanks him throughout the interview. I think it's safe to say he's staying on Green Wings.
I know that the moment was considering retirement. What about today?
Was having problems at home with my parents a few stories and have never been one to consider. But now I was resolved. Chajihun, JungHwan KIM coach can get his mind again, thank you for the great help. Retirement does not.
I'll brush you up a bit "I was having troubles at home with my parents so I was considering retiring after having a few exchanges. However with that finally settled and with the help of the Kim Junghwan coach, he helped me get back the passion for the game so I want to thank him. I will not retire" So yes, TRUE is not retiring. Hurray!
Edit: Also OP should edit the title or something...its been verified.
Is he staying on T8, though?
Well in his interview it also mentions he's been practicing with Terminator for his games and he thinks his Jin Air coach has a pretty sexy zerg and continually thanks him throughout the interview. I think it's safe to say he's staying on Green Wings.
Gom also changed his name to JIN AIR_TRUE in the Code A bracket
On July 14 2013 10:27 Taipoka wrote: I don´t got where Fionn was a "ass" or "dickish". MajOr who said himself he was cut from T8, Fionn just made a joke because one can suppose MajOr didn´t fell good about it. I think you guys are just overextending it instead of analyse what Fionn just wrote.
Joke is only a joke if the receiving end didn't get offended. Otherwise, regardless of the intention, apology is needed.
It's a joke whether it's offensive or not (only the quality is up for debate) and getting offended on someone's behalf and demanding an apology, on a forum, is retarded. Major needs thicker skin and a sense of humour. It was an off-hand, obviously not serious comment and I'm sure he copped way worse in the T8 house.
Please tell me why it is another thing to tell a joke like that on forum than in real life? wouldnt it be better if people tried to behave like in the real world.. i don't think it cost much to say sorry, even if you dont care.it's normal to say sorry to people that gets offended, people are different and they react different.I would say its a privilege that Major actually comes in here or on twitter to tell us things like that True's intention was to retire even if it dont gonna happen until after the season.