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Hellokitty joins the Fnatic Academy

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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 28 2013 11:39 GMT
#1
Not exactly a secret, but finally it's official, American Protoss player Zifeng 'hellokitty' Wang has joined the Fnatic Academy. He has made a name for himself recently, after being invited into WCS America Premier (for having placed 5-8th in WCS USA and 17-24 in the Continental), and most notably defeating (T)Heart, but losing against (T)XY.

He also qualified for ShoutCraft America, and placed 5-8th, defeating EG's (Z)Suppy twice.

His next stop is trying to qualify for Premier through the Challenger Groups.

Total Earnings: $1,575

Fnatic lineup:

Professional
(P)Harstem
(P)NightEnD
(T)Naama
(P)SaSe

Academy
(P)Pink
(Z)Zanster
(Z)Miniraser
(P)Hellokitty

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mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 11:45:53
May 28 2013 11:43 GMT
#2
So, is "Academy" the new term for "B-Team" or is there any difference?

EDIT: Gratz hellokitty!
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 28 2013 11:53 GMT
#3
On May 28 2013 20:43 SinCitta wrote:
So, is "Academy" the new term for "B-Team" or is there any difference?

EDIT: Gratz hellokitty!

From what I understand, Fnatic distinguishes between those who are paid (thus, 'professional'), and those who aren't. I'm guessing there are additional benefits to academy, such as hardware, travel expenses, and there's the possibility of getting promoted to professional, like Harstem and Luvsic.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 28 2013 12:11 GMT
#4
NO
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12888 Posts
May 28 2013 12:21 GMT
#5
On May 28 2013 21:11 teddyoojo wrote:
NO

lol guess someone doesn't like hellokitty
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 28 2013 12:24 GMT
#6
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 28 2013 12:25 GMT
#7
On May 28 2013 21:21 ETisME wrote:
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On May 28 2013 21:11 teddyoojo wrote:
NO

lol guess someone doesn't like hellokitty

From the reactions I assume hellokitty killed a guy.

Or played a playstyle people didn't like you know same thing.
Glorious SEA doto
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 12:40:57
May 28 2013 12:40 GMT
#8
On May 28 2013 20:53 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 20:43 SinCitta wrote:
So, is "Academy" the new term for "B-Team" or is there any difference?

EDIT: Gratz hellokitty!

From what I understand, Fnatic distinguishes between those who are paid (thus, 'professional'), and those who aren't. I'm guessing there are additional benefits to academy, such as hardware, travel expenses, and there's the possibility of getting promoted to professional, like Harstem and Luvsic.


Don't know but that sounds like a B-Team to me. In my opinion, "Academy" implies that the players are any of those things:
  • very young
  • learn towards a common, preset goal (e.g. be in WCS PL in a year)
  • benefit from learning from the pro squad or a coach
  • are in a teamhouse environment or otherwise physically close


But it seems that nowadays teams use it as a misnomer and a fresh label for their B-teams.
MIhata
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria156 Posts
May 28 2013 12:51 GMT
#9
Gratz to Hellokitty. Really like his play in SCA
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FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
May 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#10
So happy for Kitty! I hope i get to see him in some more big events!
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
May 28 2013 16:43 GMT
#11
Congrats to Hellokitty, he'll make the pro-team before soon I think.
You need to construct additional pylons.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 28 2013 16:44 GMT
#12
glad to see that HelloKitty got picked up hopefully we'll continue to see great games from him!
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 28 2013 16:44 GMT
#13
Gratz!
HelloFnaticKitty?
Get off my lawn, young punks
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
May 28 2013 16:45 GMT
#14
Gratz, bro!
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 28 2013 16:47 GMT
#15
Gratz and Gl!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 28 2013 16:51 GMT
#16
On May 28 2013 21:24 Sated wrote:
Kinda sad to see one of the NA scene's better players being put on an academy team, but I'm sure HelloKitty can show that he's worth a promotion =D

Well, if American teams bothered to invest in their talents, the American scene would be better off
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 16:57:08
May 28 2013 16:56 GMT
#17
On May 29 2013 01:51 mikkmagro wrote:
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On May 28 2013 21:24 Sated wrote:
Kinda sad to see one of the NA scene's better players being put on an academy team, but I'm sure HelloKitty can show that he's worth a promotion =D

Well, if American teams bothered to invest in their talents, the American scene would be better off


I believe its more of a exposure issue we have with NA teams. Not about investing. If a player can join an well established team and get there name out faster then they could with a unknown team then they should.

This list of teams (at least what i can think of) that would help fast track a players career, EU has more teams.
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 28 2013 17:07 GMT
#18
On May 29 2013 01:56 FosTA wrote:
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On May 29 2013 01:51 mikkmagro wrote:
On May 28 2013 21:24 Sated wrote:
Kinda sad to see one of the NA scene's better players being put on an academy team, but I'm sure HelloKitty can show that he's worth a promotion =D

Well, if American teams bothered to invest in their talents, the American scene would be better off


I believe its more of a exposure issue we have with NA teams. Not about investing. If a player can join an well established team and get there name out faster then they could with a unknown team then they should.

This list of teams (at least what i can think of) that would help fast track a players career, EU has more teams.

What I mean is, a lot of American teams have 'Academies' and this is where most NA players are found. Clarity, Quantic and EG all have money to invest in some American talent if they went lighter on Koreans in my opinion. I'm not even talking about up and coming players, I'm talking about some of the best players in NA, who ended up on European teams. (I'm assuming the reason why an American player ends up on a European team is either because he receives no offers from American teams, or because they do not offer as much)..Scarlett is on Acer, Illusion is on mouz, and goswser is on Millenium. coL have players on their main team who I doubt have tried to actually compete.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
May 28 2013 17:14 GMT
#19
I would say Clarity is doing a great job currently helping out the Na talent. But for Quantic, EG, they are in it to win and make money so they would only need to go for the top rank players. But you cant just jump to these teams, players need to work there way up to get onto teams that would help them excel. And as of now EU teams have the ability to help players excel better then the NA teams.
Root is a good example of a NA team that can do this, but not too many others at this time can do the same things Root can. It takes time and connections.

Again. I am happy for Kitty. Thanks for the shout out! <3
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
May 28 2013 18:15 GMT
#20
Welcome to the Family
Fnatic 4 Ever...!!
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
May 28 2013 18:21 GMT
#21
Glad he found a team! He deserves it
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 28 2013 18:23 GMT
#22
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 28 2013 18:36 GMT
#23
On May 29 2013 03:23 Sated wrote:
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On May 29 2013 01:51 mikkmagro wrote:
On May 28 2013 21:24 Sated wrote:
Kinda sad to see one of the NA scene's better players being put on an academy team, but I'm sure HelloKitty can show that he's worth a promotion =D

Well, if American teams bothered to invest in their talents, the American scene would be better off

It's the "academy" part that I have issue with, not with where the team is based. I simply think that HelloKitty is deserving of a place on the A team given that he's one of the best NA players right now.

What I meant was, Fnatic said they were focusing on the European scene, but they had the opportunity of picking up a good American player - they got away with putting him on their Academy (thus, I assume, no salary), is because the big American teams did not even try to pick him up and offer him a salary.

But yeah, hellokitty is probably better than most players on Fnatic's professional roster atm, except for SaSe and perhaps Harstem.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
NVRLand
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden203 Posts
May 28 2013 18:45 GMT
#24
I'll jump in on the academy discussion. I sincerely hope that being on the acadedmy is a way to get help from players on the professional roster. Maybe a player like HelloKitty already has practicing partners on Harstem level but I really thought academy meant that you would get a chance to discuss strategy and get personal help from the professionals.
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
May 28 2013 18:51 GMT
#25
Surprising he wasn't given an A team spot. grats regardless kitty :D
Try hard or don't try at all.
TheUnderking
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada202 Posts
May 28 2013 19:16 GMT
#26
Congrats to HelloKitty, always good to see NA talent getting recognized.
THE PACT IS SEALED!
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
May 28 2013 19:17 GMT
#27
On May 29 2013 03:45 NVRLand wrote:
I'll jump in on the academy discussion. I sincerely hope that being on the acadedmy is a way to get help from players on the professional roster. Maybe a player like HelloKitty already has practicing partners on Harstem level but I really thought academy meant that you would get a chance to discuss strategy and get personal help from the professionals.


unlikely, his playstyle is the exact opposite of what you want in practice games.
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
May 28 2013 19:22 GMT
#28
On May 29 2013 04:17 Msr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 03:45 NVRLand wrote:
I'll jump in on the academy discussion. I sincerely hope that being on the acadedmy is a way to get help from players on the professional roster. Maybe a player like HelloKitty already has practicing partners on Harstem level but I really thought academy meant that you would get a chance to discuss strategy and get personal help from the professionals.


unlikely, his playstyle is the exact opposite of what you want in practice games.


Most games he does macro. He does have some very strong all in builds that would be great to be able to practice against.
FosTA | LgN - Pulse - LYGF - MgZ - Exist |StarCraft Manager
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1049 Posts
May 28 2013 19:23 GMT
#29
Teams that have a image such as EG / Quantic in that retrospect when you look at their entirety (Multi-gaming, International Competitors and have a huge sponsorship image to maintain), they are of course going to be "in it to win it". They have to do whatever they have to do in the means necessary, and if that means popping thousands of dollars on one player, they're going to do it.

Best of luck to Kitty.
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