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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 02:33:08
April 24 2013 02:32 GMT
#81
Artosis curse ....poooooor pros, im feel so sorry for them
as1
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
April 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#82
On April 24 2013 11:25 Kal_rA wrote:
So Artosis is the new host? Honestly not a fan of that... I love you Artosis but I love you cause you know how to answer every question in the most entertaining yet informative way. If your asking the questions you cant really answer them too :/

Still gonna watch it all

I have to agree. Artosis has a strong opinion on things so this show feels a bit too much with him moderating/responding to questions. I think he should bring Doa or even Wolf to moderate.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#83
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


He only has to get past one group (and he got a pretty easy one) so he should be ok with that. Still wish he just went there with how much $$ he has.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#84
On April 24 2013 11:33 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


He only has to get past one group (and he got a pretty easy one) so he should be ok with that. Still wish he just went there with how much $$ he has.


I'm going to be so disappointed if he plays from KR and loses before the offline part because of the lag ;/
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#85
On April 24 2013 11:31 WIllBIll wrote:
Can we at least get an explanation? Seems like a shitty move towards JP looking at it from the outside.

from someone on reddit
"On the GD show today. They said "sources" say Artosis and JP had a falling out over contract issues with State of the Game and in chat JP posted "It's been a rough day""
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Cayn
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
April 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#86
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


mvp will remember his match against goody
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
April 24 2013 02:33 GMT
#87
On April 24 2013 11:25 Kal_rA wrote:
So Artosis is the new host? Honestly not a fan of that... I love you Artosis but I love you cause you know how to answer every question in the most entertaining yet informative way. If your asking the questions you cant really answer them too :/

Still gonna watch it all


I have to agree with this. Artosis' hosting so far is feeling fairly forced, but that's something that could easily be improved. And I definitely feel like Artosis isn't as open with his opinions based off of SotG since he's hosting, but again this could just be because I've only seen 30m so far.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 02:36:17
April 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#88
I'm curious as to why Artosis made this new show. It feels like SOTG without a host, aka JP. I really like Artosis' thoughts and commentary, but I don't think the host role is for him.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#89
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.

Wait to see what he'll do. What they didn't know is that for example MMA will play all his matches from EU cuz Acer will fly him in. They don't know what's happening, they're just guessing.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 24 2013 02:35 GMT
#90
On April 24 2013 11:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:33 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


He only has to get past one group (and he got a pretty easy one) so he should be ok with that. Still wish he just went there with how much $$ he has.


I'm going to be so disappointed if he plays from KR and loses before the offline part because of the lag ;/


Same
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 24 2013 02:36 GMT
#91
On April 24 2013 11:35 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:33 Dodgin wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:33 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


He only has to get past one group (and he got a pretty easy one) so he should be ok with that. Still wish he just went there with how much $$ he has.


I'm going to be so disappointed if he plays from KR and loses before the offline part because of the lag ;/


Same

I really, really like Mvp, but I think it would be some sweet "justice" if the Koreans in both NA and EU lost a few games they shouldn't due to lag.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
April 24 2013 02:36 GMT
#92
Yay, hope this show lasts. <3 Artosis
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 24 2013 02:37 GMT
#93
On April 24 2013 11:36 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:35 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:33 Dodgin wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:33 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


He only has to get past one group (and he got a pretty easy one) so he should be ok with that. Still wish he just went there with how much $$ he has.


I'm going to be so disappointed if he plays from KR and loses before the offline part because of the lag ;/


Same

I really, really like Mvp, but I think it would be some sweet "justice" if the Koreans in both NA and EU lost a few games they shouldn't due to lag.


All the other Koreans can lose just not Mvp!

I do think picking EU and not going over there is stupid tho.
Vespasian
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania44 Posts
April 24 2013 02:37 GMT
#94
Artosis is not as good as JP ... yet . He s new to this and this is the first episode , i m sure he ll get much better then JP
Terrible Terrbile Damage!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#95
On April 24 2013 11:34 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.

Wait to see what he'll do. What they didn't know is that for example MMA will play all his matches from EU cuz Acer will fly him in. They don't know what's happening, they're just guessing.

I certainly hope Mvp can fly to EU, because from what transpired from his play last couple of times we saw him, he isn't so far ahead of Europeans that he can play against them with a monstrous lag.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
April 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#96
I wonder what JP thinks about this
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#97
On April 24 2013 11:34 Ercster wrote:
I'm curious as to why Artosis made this new show. It feels like SOTG without a host, aka JP. I really like his thoughts and commentary, but I don't think the host role is for him.
Yep. What this show confirms is what I always somehow knew - that JP is an awesome host, if sometimes underrated. JP creates a better atmosphere, even with worse production.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#98
On April 24 2013 11:37 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:36 AgentW wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:35 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:33 Dodgin wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:33 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:31 ZenithM wrote:
I don't think Mvp realized how it's hard to play from KR in EU (and vice-versa) lag wise. Well I'm sure he has an idea, but that's like a fucking 500 ms latency, I guess he will be playing mech as usual. Better on his shoulder anyway.


He only has to get past one group (and he got a pretty easy one) so he should be ok with that. Still wish he just went there with how much $$ he has.


I'm going to be so disappointed if he plays from KR and loses before the offline part because of the lag ;/


Same

I really, really like Mvp, but I think it would be some sweet "justice" if the Koreans in both NA and EU lost a few games they shouldn't due to lag.


All the other Koreans can lose just not Mvp!

I do think picking EU and not going over there is stupid tho.

I would be fine with that. Also, looking at the bracket they just listed, I think the EU player pool is stronger than the NA one, and with the worse lag for Koreans and fewer number of them, I think EU has a very good chance at a defense.

I was just going to ask where Flag is haha
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
StaraCroft
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria292 Posts
April 24 2013 02:39 GMT
#99
On April 24 2013 11:33 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:31 WIllBIll wrote:
Can we at least get an explanation? Seems like a shitty move towards JP looking at it from the outside.

from someone on reddit
"On the GD show today. They said "sources" say Artosis and JP had a falling out over contract issues with State of the Game and in chat JP posted "It's been a rough day""

So he makes a new show which is exactly the same format as Sotg, reaches the same demographic, basically stealing the audience that JP has built - I think that's fair to say.
If he was to say: ok, I don't like Sotg, so I won't be on it, and I'll come up with a show of my own that would be different, but blatently copying every single aspect of Sotg and calling it your own is just wrong. I wonder why the rest of the guys played along.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
April 24 2013 02:40 GMT
#100
On April 24 2013 11:38 TAMinator wrote:
I wonder what JP thinks about this


Obviously pissed. I feel bad for JP since he worked so hard doing SotG and now all of a sudden it's gone.
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