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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 23:16:16
February 01 2013 23:13 GMT
#1
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Graph based on 114k recorded games in the pro and semi-pro levels. Each node is a player (about 4000 of them). Each edge represents players who have played a game with each other. It's thicker if they have played more games.

The modularity algorithm identified four major components, corresponding to the EU, NA, KR and SEA/CN/TW scenes. (That would be the colouring. The location is independent of it.)

EU is the largest (37%), then comes NA (29%), KR (21%) and SEA++ (12%).

Within each group there are also some subgroups that can be discerned. Most prominently, the SEA, China and Taiwan scenes. In Europe, there is a small group of players from the British Isles and another group of Scandinavians.

The KR and NA scenes appear more homogenized, except for a small group corresponding to a South American scene (mostly Brazil and Chile).

Interestingly, Sen has his own location somewhere in the middle.

The graph diameter is 9, meaning you can skip between any two players in at most 9 degrees of separation (though on average you need just 3.5).

Any experts on gephi here? Maybe you can do some wizardry on this graph.

Edit: I thought the image was supposed to be resized automatically?

Edit 2: Oh, now it is.

Edit 3: Sorry for the JPEG, I think it was PNG when I uploaded.
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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 23:18:45
February 01 2013 23:16 GMT
#2
Beautiful! EU > NA? Didn't expect that.

Edit: Actually, thinking about it, it makes a lot of sense + Sen in limbo is funny.
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MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
February 01 2013 23:16 GMT
#3
On February 02 2013 08:13 TheBB wrote:
Interestingly, Sen has his own location somewhere in the middle.


LOL thats awesome


cool graph btw. this is awesome
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stjartrov
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden81 Posts
February 02 2013 00:19 GMT
#4
Neat graph, TheBB!

Wonder where Sen's own little island could be located..
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 02 2013 00:24 GMT
#5
Haha, Sen gets his own blob. Sad that the UK's scene is still nowhere near significant enough. We need to step up.
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 00:28:34
February 02 2013 00:27 GMT
#6
On February 02 2013 09:24 Larkin wrote:
Haha, Sen gets his own blob. Sad that the UK's scene is still nowhere near significant enough. We need to step up.

The UK blob consists mostly of the not-so-significant players. People like Bling and Demuslim are squarely in the middle of the EU blob instead.

Jinro, for example, is in KR.

Also, turns out that Goody is the player who has played the largest number of different opponents (352). Who's up for giving out Goody numbers?
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StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
February 02 2013 00:32 GMT
#7
dude fix you geographical knowledge!!!
joking still awesome that way.
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Hjax
Profile Joined July 2012
United States47 Posts
February 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#8
Now put players on a real map based on their hometowns
Just kidding, this is excellent work and really shines some light on the relations between the servers and their players
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EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
February 02 2013 00:44 GMT
#9
Amusing to see Sen the anomaly
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 12:28:03
February 02 2013 12:27 GMT
#10
On February 02 2013 09:27 TheBB wrote:
Also, turns out that Goody is the player who has played the largest number of different opponents (352). Who's up for giving out Goody numbers?

You!

You should totally add a Goody number generator in aligulac. :D
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
February 02 2013 13:44 GMT
#11
That's pretty dang cool!

I see that the Korean scene has some kind of "gradual split up" going downwards... Would that be the KeSPA players or something like that, or KeSPA and eSF are not distinguisheable?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 02 2013 13:49 GMT
#12
On February 02 2013 22:44 Epamynondas wrote:
I see that the Korean scene has some kind of "gradual split up" going downwards... Would that be the KeSPA players or something like that, or KeSPA and eSF are not distinguisheable?

I can't find any separation between Kespa and ESF. The split you are referring to looks strange to me too. Maybe it includes Koreans who play frequently overseas, or overseas players who play frequently in Korea? Notables in that place are Jinro, Scarlett and Hyun.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 02 2013 13:57 GMT
#13
First I thought, "This is crap", then I saw Sen, then I thought, "Correct, no problem here".
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Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
February 02 2013 13:57 GMT
#14
I think Baller himself wouldn't be ashamed of such a graph Nicely done.
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Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
February 02 2013 14:01 GMT
#15
I thought there was only 1 Brazilian semipro player, which is actually a full time medic.
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NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
February 02 2013 14:18 GMT
#16
I was wondering if I could do something like this with players practice partners. You see players mention them at the end of interviews and I thought that might give us some insight into social aspects of progamers (who's the "cool kid" and who doesn't play with others etc).

As for regional comparison, I'm actually surprised that there is a clear distinction between NA and EU. I thought they would almost overlap. I guess you never know until you actually crunch those numbers.
shaldengeki
Profile Joined May 2009
United States104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:05:28
February 02 2013 20:04 GMT
#17
Oh hey someone else who uses Gephi.

If you're at all interested in exporting an interactive web version of this, I'd suggest you export your finished graph in gexf format and read it using sigmajs: http://sigmajs.org

A little tweaking and it can be really pretty!

EDIT: just a sample graph I did awhile ago (large gexf file, so may take awhile to load): http://llanim.us/etiNetworkGraph.php?type=&year=2012

Mouse wheel to scroll, hover over a node to hide all but its immediate neighbors.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 02 2013 20:11 GMT
#18
So I suck at graphs, can anyone explain it for people who know less about how this works than the people who posted until now?

What does it mean if nodes are closer together for one scene than for others, what does the colouring of the lines indicate, etc.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:27:39
February 02 2013 20:27 GMT
#19
Awesome graph

I do understand the connections, but the locations are a bit confusing to me.

Does Sen being in the middle means he plays equal amounts vs EU, Kor, Sea and US players?
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algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
February 02 2013 20:29 GMT
#20
On February 03 2013 05:11 StarVe wrote:
So I suck at graphs, can anyone explain it for people who know less about how this works than the people who posted until now?

What does it mean if nodes are closer together for one scene than for others, what does the colouring of the lines indicate, etc.


So the clustering will group together players (dots) based on who played the most with each other. So a team that plays with members of its own team exclusively would be an isolated group of dots grouped close together.

So each blob (cluster) represents a sub-community in the SC2 community. We notice all the normal communities we talk about (KR, NA, EU, etc.) and this graph helps us see how they relate and some funny things (like Sen doesn't cluster well with KR or NA so he is put in his own cluster in the middle).

The thickness of the lines from one community to another shows how much cross community play there is or how isolated the communities are from one another. Since most of the lines are thick this tells us global play is pretty common, and our communities are not very isolated.

Hope this helps the graph noobs!
Ringall
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland177 Posts
February 02 2013 20:36 GMT
#21
Haha, brilliant work!
I'm curoius, who are the Scandinavia players that are all isolated in the corner there?
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Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
February 02 2013 20:38 GMT
#22
TheBB, you're awesome.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 02 2013 20:39 GMT
#23
Ah, okay, I was looking for some kind of deeper meaning than that and didn't seem to find something. :D

Thank you!
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
February 02 2013 20:51 GMT
#24
That's really cool and it shows how there is a lot of inter-regional play between KR, NA and EU.
Still funny how Sen is at the center of Starcraft pro-scene.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 02 2013 20:54 GMT
#25
On February 03 2013 05:36 Ringall wrote:
I'm curoius, who are the Scandinavia players that are all isolated in the corner there?

Zuth, Megashira, Holstad, Mefisto, Babyknight and Snute.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 02 2013 20:59 GMT
#26
On February 03 2013 05:54 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 05:36 Ringall wrote:
I'm curoius, who are the Scandinavia players that are all isolated in the corner there?

Zuth, Megashira, Holstad, Mefisto, Babyknight and Snute.

Your database says Mefisto is Russian, so not Scandinavian.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 21:05:37
February 02 2013 21:02 GMT
#27
On February 03 2013 05:59 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 05:54 TheBB wrote:
On February 03 2013 05:36 Ringall wrote:
I'm curoius, who are the Scandinavia players that are all isolated in the corner there?

Zuth, Megashira, Holstad, Mefisto, Babyknight and Snute.

Your database says Mefisto is Russian, so not Scandinavian.

I know, the groupings aren't based on geography, but on the game data. They just turn out to be mostly correlated with geography. There are plenty of exceptions (Scarlett and Jinro are over there in Korea for example). I named that the Scandinavian corner because most of them are Scandinavians, just like I named the blue people Koreans because they mostly are.

There are many more Scandinavians in the main EU blob, but for some reason the program decided to separate these slightly.

Edit: Actually, it's probably because Snute and BabyKnight have very many games against each other after that Bo69. That must be it.
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
February 02 2013 21:11 GMT
#28
That korean sub-cluster must be the players that travel overseas often to play foreign tournaments.
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
February 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#29
I don't get why scandinavia and UK have their own place and aren't in the EU group?
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