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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 09:27 GMT
#121
On January 14 2013 18:23 Seeker wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:04 JunkkaGom wrote:
where did you get this information before we even announced it??

Oo;; opterown = underground illegal connections?

LR Illuminati strikes again?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 14 2013 09:27 GMT
#122
On January 14 2013 18:23 Seeker wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:04 JunkkaGom wrote:
where did you get this information before we even announced it??

Oo;; opterown = underground illegal connections?

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:28:19
January 14 2013 09:27 GMT
#123
On January 14 2013 18:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Sniper needs to consume another fan favorite to regain his strength. Huk and Bomber are his muahaha


Gumiho too. He's creative and played one of the best TvTs of all time. Sounds like too fun a player to be spared Sniper's buzz kill.

That's true. and Gumiho tends to have Bomber's number head to head so it will probably be Gumiho vs Sniper in the winners' match.
On January 14 2013 18:27 opterown wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:23 Seeker wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:04 JunkkaGom wrote:
where did you get this information before we even announced it??

Oo;; opterown = underground illegal connections?

retired lr bonjwas retain their sources!

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iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
January 14 2013 09:28 GMT
#124
On January 14 2013 18:26 Waxangel wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:24 iKill wrote:
Wax, these groups are random


no, winner and runner up of previosu season get to pick their opponent frmo tier 4


really? well shit, I stand corrected

last time I checked the Ro32s were random and the Ro16s were picked
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 14 2013 09:28 GMT
#125
dem maps.

also rofl @ MVP and MKP in the same group again, hope they both manage to advance <3
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:29:42
January 14 2013 09:29 GMT
#126
On January 14 2013 18:28 iKill wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:26 Waxangel wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:24 iKill wrote:
Wax, these groups are random


no, winner and runner up of previosu season get to pick their opponent frmo tier 4


really? well shit, I stand corrected

last time I checked the Ro32s were random and the Ro16s were picked


Ro32's were never pure random, winner/runner-up always had a pick from tier 4
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:32:48
January 14 2013 09:29 GMT
#127
On January 14 2013 18:21 Waxangel wrote:
how is stephano so lucky?!

HuK made it so Sniper took him as the default pick, and then I guess HyuN didn't want to take Stephano because of the old TSL connection?

Why do you say he is so lucky?
If you have the opportunity to pick Stephano or Huk. To choose between an always volatile ZvZ or a more reliable ZvP, you pick HuK and the ZvP. About Hyun, I don't see why an old connection would help Stephano. On the other hand they trained together and their match were always close. I understand he picks someone else if he feels strong against him.
Getting DRG, maybe top2 in the world right now is not being lucky. It's not bad but it's not being in Losira's or Roro's position.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:30:48
January 14 2013 09:30 GMT
#128
On January 14 2013 18:29 Thurken wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:21 Waxangel wrote:
how is stephano so lucky?!

HuK made it so Sniper took him as the default pick, and then I guess HyuN didn't want to take Stephano because of the old TSL connection?

Why do you say he is so lucky?
If you have the opportunity to pick Stephano or Huk. To choose between an always volatile ZvZ or a more reliable ZvP, you pick HuK and the ZvP. About Hyun, I don't see why an old connection would help Stephano. On the other hand they trained together and their match were always close. I understand he picks someone else if he feels strong against him.
Getting DRG, maybe top2 in the world right now is not being lucky. It's not bad but it's not being in Losira's or Roro's position.


he's lucky that HuK made it for one

it's extremely unlikely BOTH sniper and HyuN pass him over without huk
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skyyan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States74 Posts
January 14 2013 09:31 GMT
#129
Overall I feel that the groups are fairly even. Hard for me to pick a group of death. Aside from a few stars, its very difficult to predict a lot of these groups.
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 14 2013 09:31 GMT
#130
On January 14 2013 18:26 JunkkaGom wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:24 Sumadin wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:22 JunkkaGom wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:20 Tsubbi wrote:
soo, abyssal city, antiga and entombed are out?


yep they are out. also changes were made to whirlwind and belshir


Any ETA on when we will get full info on the new maps and adjustments to old ones?


soon. very soon. should be out this week. my team's working on it


Team John!
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Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
January 14 2013 09:32 GMT
#131
On January 14 2013 18:29 Waxangel wrote:
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On January 14 2013 18:28 iKill wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:26 Waxangel wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:24 iKill wrote:
Wax, these groups are random


no, winner and runner up of previosu season get to pick their opponent frmo tier 4


really? well shit, I stand corrected

last time I checked the Ro32s were random and the Ro16s were picked


Ro32's were never pure random, winner/runner-up always had a pick from tier 4

Not to mention that there is 4 tiers in Code S, Ro8 from last season is Tier 1, then Top 8 rankings after Ro8 from last season is 2, then 9-16th ranked players are Tier 3, and 17-24th is Tier 4.

Each finalist get's to pick 1 opponent from Tier 4, while the rest of the group is made up, with an example of Group A.

Group A
Tier 1 - Creator
Tier 4 - ByuL
Tier 3 - Symbol
Tier 2 - Life
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 14 2013 09:32 GMT
#132
On January 14 2013 18:31 skyyan wrote:
Overall I feel that the groups are fairly even. Hard for me to pick a group of death. Aside from a few stars, its very difficult to predict a lot of these groups.


Group A looks strongest from top to bottom. But it is not really 'by far' the toughest group.
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
January 14 2013 09:32 GMT
#133
My hopes for groups A-D:
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Group A
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ByuL 2-1 Creator
Life 2-1 Symbol
ByuL 2-0 Life
Creator 2-1 Symbol
Life 0-2 Creator

ByuL and Creator advance!

Group B
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Leenock 2-0 BaBy
Curious 1-2 MC
Leenock 2-1 MC
BaBy 0-2 Curious
MC 2-0 BaBy

Leenock and MC advance!

Group C
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Sniper 0-2 HuK
Bomber 1-2 GuMiho
HuK 0-2 GuMiho
Sniper 2-1 Bomber
HuK 2-0 Sniper[

GuMiho and HuK advance!

Group D
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HyuN 2-0 BBoongBBoong
YoDa 2-0 Squirtle
YoDa 2-0 HyuN
BBoongBBoong 1-2 Squirtle
HyuN 0-2 Squirtle

YoDa and Squirtle advance!

A mind sharper than any blade.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:38:49
January 14 2013 09:34 GMT
#134
On January 14 2013 18:30 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:29 Thurken wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:21 Waxangel wrote:
how is stephano so lucky?!

HuK made it so Sniper took him as the default pick, and then I guess HyuN didn't want to take Stephano because of the old TSL connection?

Why do you say he is so lucky?
If you have the opportunity to pick Stephano or Huk. To choose between an always volatile ZvZ or a more reliable ZvP, you pick HuK and the ZvP. About Hyun, I don't see why an old connection would help Stephano. On the other hand they trained together and their match were always close. I understand he picks someone else if he feels strong against him.
Getting DRG, maybe top2 in the world right now is not being lucky. It's not bad but it's not being in Losira's or Roro's position.


he's lucky that HuK made it for one

it's extremely unlikely BOTH sniper and HyuN pass him over without huk


Look at Huk, or BBongBBong's group. It wouldn't change a thing for Stephano: one strong zerg, and two hard but beatable opponents
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 14 2013 09:37 GMT
#135
On January 14 2013 18:34 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:30 Waxangel wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:29 Thurken wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:21 Waxangel wrote:
how is stephano so lucky?!

HuK made it so Sniper took him as the default pick, and then I guess HyuN didn't want to take Stephano because of the old TSL connection?

Why do you say he is so lucky?
If you have the opportunity to pick Stephano or Huk. To choose between an always volatile ZvZ or a more reliable ZvP, you pick HuK and the ZvP. About Hyun, I don't see why an old connection would help Stephano. On the other hand they trained together and their match were always close. I understand he picks someone else if he feels strong against him.
Getting DRG, maybe top2 in the world right now is not being lucky. It's not bad but it's not being in Losira's or Roro's position.


he's lucky that HuK made it for one

it's extremely unlikely BOTH sniper and HyuN pass him over without huk


Look at Huk, or BBongBBong's group. It wouldn't change a thing for Stephano: one strong zerg, and two hard but beatable opponents


Kind of. But the order of play matters. Stephano gets to play a T first. So he cannot get knocked out by 2 ZvZs (it would have been possible if he was in HuK or B4's position).
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
January 14 2013 09:40 GMT
#136
Both Stephano and DRG will win their ZvT, then Stephano will lose the ZvZ winner match and then..
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 14 2013 09:40 GMT
#137
Yay go team foreigners! Groups look great.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 09:48:44
January 14 2013 09:40 GMT
#138
On January 14 2013 18:37 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 18:34 Thurken wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:30 Waxangel wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:29 Thurken wrote:
On January 14 2013 18:21 Waxangel wrote:
how is stephano so lucky?!

HuK made it so Sniper took him as the default pick, and then I guess HyuN didn't want to take Stephano because of the old TSL connection?

Why do you say he is so lucky?
If you have the opportunity to pick Stephano or Huk. To choose between an always volatile ZvZ or a more reliable ZvP, you pick HuK and the ZvP. About Hyun, I don't see why an old connection would help Stephano. On the other hand they trained together and their match were always close. I understand he picks someone else if he feels strong against him.
Getting DRG, maybe top2 in the world right now is not being lucky. It's not bad but it's not being in Losira's or Roro's position.


he's lucky that HuK made it for one

it's extremely unlikely BOTH sniper and HyuN pass him over without huk


Look at Huk, or BBongBBong's group. It wouldn't change a thing for Stephano: one strong zerg, and two hard but beatable opponents


Kind of. But the order of play matters. Stephano gets to play a T first. So he cannot get knocked out by 2 ZvZs (it would have been possible if he was in HuK or B4's position).

You have a point but I think it is debatable. Here I doubt DRG would lose one serie for example.
With the GSL format, I'd rather play against the hardest opponent first. Otherwise, it may be like WCS where Stephano was 3-2 versus HerO but was eliminated.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 14 2013 09:40 GMT
#139
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Group A

      Life: 94.23%
      Symbol: 45.35%
      Creator: 33.94%
      ByuL: 26.48%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Creator: 33.78% 32.28% 23.16% 10.78%
ByuL: 34.79% 38.73% 22.03% 4.45%
Symbol: 29.07% 25.57% 33.81% 11.54%
Life: 2.36% 3.41% 21.00% 73.22%

Probability of each pair advancing

Creator ByuL Symbol Life
Creator: 0.12% 1.64% 9.03%
ByuL: 0.41% 0.77% 3.27%
Symbol: 1.57% 1.26% 8.70%
Life: 21.17% 20.64% 31.41%


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Group B

      Leenock: 57.12%
      BaBy: 55.11%
      MC: 45.27%
      Curious: 42.51%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Leenock: 20.50% 22.38% 27.23% 29.89%
BaBy: 22.05% 22.84% 26.35% 28.75%
Curious: 30.21% 27.29% 22.31% 20.19%
MC: 27.24% 27.49% 24.11% 21.17%

Probability of each pair advancing

Leenock BaBy Curious MC
Leenock: 9.76% 9.70% 10.43%
BaBy: 9.83% 8.06% 10.86%
Curious: 8.45% 8.92% 2.82%
MC: 8.94% 7.67% 4.55%


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Group C

      Sniper: 67.59%
      GuMiho: 66.37%
      Bomber: 63.19%
      HuK: 2.85%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Sniper: 1.65% 30.76% 32.83% 34.76%
HuK: 74.67% 22.47% 1.96% 0.89%
Bomber: 4.95% 31.85% 39.98% 23.22%
GuMiho: 18.72% 14.91% 25.23% 41.13%

Probability of each pair advancing

Sniper HuK Bomber GuMiho
Sniper: 1.24% 16.54% 16.99%
HuK: 0.12% 0.22% 0.55%
Bomber: 14.92% 0.61% 7.69%
GuMiho: 17.80% 0.12% 23.22%


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Group D

      HyuN: 77.50%
      Squirtle: 61.52%
      BBoongBBoong: 40.34%
      YoDa: 20.64%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
HyuN: 9.11% 13.39% 30.10% 47.41%
BBoongBBoong: 26.64% 33.03% 24.49% 15.85%
YoDa: 49.57% 29.79% 12.30% 8.35%
Squirtle: 14.69% 23.79% 33.12% 28.40%

Probability of each pair advancing

HyuN BBoongB YoDa Squirtl
HyuN: 14.13% 7.29% 25.99%
BBoongBBoong: 7.74% 2.51% 5.60%
YoDa: 5.07% 1.75% 1.52%
Squirtle: 17.29% 8.61% 2.50%


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Group E

      PartinG: 91.55%
      LosirA: 62.53%
      Ryung: 39.10%
      Byun: 6.81%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Ryung: 16.06% 44.84% 27.21% 11.90%
LosirA: 9.65% 27.82% 45.50% 17.03%
Byun: 70.85% 22.34% 4.30% 2.51%
PartinG: 3.44% 5.01% 22.99% 68.56%

Probability of each pair advancing

Ryung LosirA Byun PartinG
Ryung: 1.32% 1.15% 9.42%
LosirA: 3.28% 1.89% 11.86%
Byun: 0.33% 0.48% 1.70%
PartinG: 23.61% 43.70% 1.26%


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Group F

      MarineKing: 59.93%
      RorO: 55.46%
      Mvp: 42.63%
      Keen: 41.98%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
MarineKing: 16.35% 23.73% 30.48% 29.45%
RorO: 21.54% 23.00% 26.96% 28.50%
Keen: 32.24% 25.78% 20.69% 21.29%
Mvp: 29.87% 27.50% 21.87% 20.76%

Probability of each pair advancing

MarineK RorO Keen Mvp
MarineKing: 6.55% 11.73% 11.16%
RorO: 14.89% 5.73% 7.88%
Keen: 7.43% 11.04% 2.83%
Mvp: 8.16% 9.37% 3.23%


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Group G

      TaeJa: 82.55%
      Noblesse: 51.94%
      Soulkey: 51.87%
      NesTea: 13.63%

details, data source, code

+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Soulkey: 17.40% 30.73% 30.88% 20.99%
Noblesse: 17.37% 30.69% 31.74% 20.20%
NesTea: 58.85% 27.52% 8.46% 5.17%
TaeJa: 6.38% 11.07% 28.91% 53.64%

Probability of each pair advancing

Soulkey Nobless NesTea TaeJa
Soulkey: 4.79% 2.20% 14.01%
Noblesse: 5.37% 2.16% 12.67%
NesTea: 1.47% 1.46% 2.24%
TaeJa: 24.04% 25.49% 4.10%


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Group H

      DongRaeGu: 85.02%
      Stephano: 61.67%
      INnoVation: 27.56%
      Hack: 25.75%

details, data source, code

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Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
INnoVation: 40.30% 32.14% 16.34% 11.22%
Stephano: 13.53% 24.80% 42.57% 19.10%
Hack: 39.06% 35.20% 16.09% 9.66%
DongRaeGu: 7.11% 7.87% 25.00% 60.02%

Probability of each pair advancing

INnoVat Stephan Hack DongRae
INnoVation: 0.83% 1.58% 8.80%
Stephano: 2.82% 5.93% 10.36%
Hack: 2.04% 1.78% 5.84%
DongRaeGu: 11.48% 39.96% 8.58%


So, in short:

A: Life, Symbol
B: This one is completely open
C: Gumiho, Sniper and Bomber all have good chances
D: Hyun, Squirtle
E: Parting, Losira
F: Roro, MarineKing
G: Taeja first, Noblesse or Soulkey second
H: DRG, Stephano
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 14 2013 09:43 GMT
#140
I don't see Huk making it out of his group -_-
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