you have seen Mvp's play recently right? Keen's best mu is TvT iirc, MKP is hot as hell right now, and if Mvp cant take a map off Goswser, how will he come close to RorO?

It seems, Mvp has no chance, but then again, this is the GSL so i guess he does.

Well, to be fair. + Show Spoiler +

goswser went up 2-0 vs Life before losing 2-3

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

January 15 2013 01:37 GMT

#485

On January 15 2013 08:04 JJH777 wrote:

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Whirlwind isn't a good map for zerg. It's one of the few maps that T/P can actually abuse Broodlord immobility on because it's so huge. It's only good for zerg for the early and mid game. Broodlord/Infestor pretty much isn't viable on whirlwind and that's the main thing people complain about.

No. WW is a great Zerg map. You always see zergs picking it when they can. And you have stated the reason. It is so good for Zerg is the early mid game with ling bling muta or ling infestor. It is a myth that zergs NEED BL/infestors. Maybe if the Zerg is on similar Econ, the infestor/BL is much more cost effective.

On WW, the Zerg should have such a big lead from the early and mid game that they should be able to finish it off with more bling ling muta or switch to Ultras. If Zerg comes out of the mid game even, then they have already been outplayed.

TheRabidDeer

United States3806 Posts

January 15 2013 01:42 GMT

#486

On January 15 2013 08:14 TheBB wrote:
Well, I ranked the groups too.

Group A: Creator, Byul, Symbol, Life (2325)
Group B: Leenock, Baby, Curious, MC (2281)
Group C: Sniper, Huk, Bomber, Gumiho (2272)
Group D: Hyun, BBoongBBoong, Yoda, Squirtle (2215)
Group H: Innovation, Stephano, Hack, DRG (2203(.25))
Group G: Soulkey, Noblesse, Nestea, Taeja (2203)
Group E: Ryung, Losira, Byun, Parting (2151)
Group F: MarineKing, Roro, Keen, Mvp (2103)

Tl;dr: People are way overrating group F and underrating group B.

Curious and Baby havent had breakout performances yet, and Leenock just doesnt get attention. Which is why group B is so underrated. They are all extremely good, but they havent had their season yet. Meanwhile MKP and MVP at their primes looked incredible and because of their performance and revolutionary play are burned into our minds as some of the all-time great players. Then Keen and Roro are both really solid performers too, which contributes to group F being so highly praised.

Besides, group f will probably be really interesting. The three T's all have pretty different playstyles and are all really good at TvT

Brindled

United States508 Posts

January 15 2013 02:43 GMT

#487

HuK will make it out of the group first place, you heard it here first.
What is my basis for this you ask? My chram.

yokohama

United States1116 Posts

January 15 2013 03:08 GMT

#488

Looks like a great lineup, though I do wish a few more Protoss made it through. I can't wait for groups C, G and H, though they all look like they will be highly entertaining. Hopefully this season we can see some of the big names in the later stages of the tournament. Also hoping Huk or Stephano can pull a Naniwa and show they can make it far.

VoirDire

Sweden1923 Posts

January 15 2013 03:09 GMT

#489

Huk got a hard group, all vs P specialists. Stephano could very well make it though, but he's very easily studied and I'm afraid the terrans will make some kind of early timings against him.

My picks:

A (P)

Creator,

Life
B

Leenock,

MC
C

Sniper,

Bomber
D

HyuN,

YoDa
E

Ryung,

PartinG
F

MarineKing, (T)

Mvp
G

Neo.G_Soulkey, (T)

TaeJa
H

Stephano,

DongRaeGu

T.O.P

469 Posts

January 15 2013 03:12 GMT

#490

Go Terrans!

ajxPurpleRain

United States87 Posts

January 15 2013 03:12 GMT

#491

Losira is back in code s! Woot. APM 4ever.

2muchSWAG

76 Posts

January 15 2013 03:13 GMT

#492

Any idea when the TL previews will happen? I get quite bored when in Korean history class (which my idiot teacher didn't even bother to mention BW).

ajxPurpleRain

United States87 Posts

January 15 2013 03:13 GMT

#493

Since when was Stephano easily studied? Haven't people been saying that since october 2011? And hasn't he been beating everyone ever since then? Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like we're just passing along a cliche here....

silverstyle

Singapore1108 Posts

January 15 2013 03:26 GMT

#494

Wow, sucks to be HuK. Somehow I hope he makes it out though. Hope.

The whole line up is so stacked though.

Kaitokid

Germany1327 Posts

January 15 2013 03:38 GMT

#495

group A it would surprise me if anyone else but Creator/Life advance. think Symbol has almost no chance to advance

in group B I am really looking forward to see BaBy play, from what i've seen of him he is really really good, don't expect much from MC, although he seems to play much better recently. my prediction is Leenock/BaBy advance.

group C I dont see Sniper not advancing and 2nd player should be GuMiho, maybe Bomber. I think HuK has the least chances to advance out of any player

group D would be cool to see Squirtle advance as there is a lack of good protoss players this season. will be hard for him though as all the players seem to be pretty close in skill except HyuN might be 1 step ahead of the others currently.

group E looks very interesting, I think this is the group where no matter what happens it wont be surprising. looks very hard to predict. it also looks like the strongest groups along with group A and H although all are very close.

F is the one I am least interested in tbh, but I would like KeeN to have some success as he always underperformed for how good he always was. RorO looks like one of the stronger Kespa players and I can definitely see him winning easily, dunno what to expect from Marineking.

in group G it will be interesting to see Noblesse play for me as I haven't seen his play in a while for some reason, TaeJa and Soulkey will probably advance

and the last group will be very cool to see aswell especially for tvz fans, will definitely be very high level and I hope to see Stephano and Hack come out on top.

overall too much terran and zerg sadly :/ but at least we get to see Squirtle, PartinG and Creator. Would have loved to see players like Oz and Rain in this season but oh well.

DyEnasTy

United States3721 Posts

January 15 2013 04:16 GMT

#496

I will be so happy if HuK proves the haters wrong. Cmon man, destroy those fools!

eviltomahawk

United States11135 Posts

January 15 2013 04:30 GMT

#497

Looks like thisisgame released an article about the new map pool. The images are fairly low-res, but it's still interesting to get an early glimpse of Icarus.

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http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1423696&category=13438

Some guys on Reddit gave us a rough translation of a few details.

New Maps:
GSL Icarus
Kilron plains
KeSPA Neo Planet S
GSL Bel `Shir Vestige (Added destructible rocks,place for overlord to sit in front deleted, the second expansion in the region extended from the plains of the central area road downhill - uphill terrain has changed.)
GSL Whirl Wind (Possible destruction of the second expansion area and every one of rock was added.)
GSL Cloud Kingdom (Unchanged)
GSL Day Break (Unchanged)

just a few things
GSL Icarus (there are gold minerals in the back-natural but they only have 1500min per patch)
Akilon Plains (basically the ladder map but the watchtowers are set to disappear after the first 7min and rocks to the 3rd adjusted to 1000hp)
KeSPA Neo Planet S (Now with slightly wider attack routes)

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/16lh8l/new_map_pool_for_gsl/c7x3mp7

Enzymatic

Canada1301 Posts

January 15 2013 04:39 GMT

#498

Its depressing how much Red and Blue I see in those groups, and how little green.

usethis2

2164 Posts

January 15 2013 05:21 GMT

#499

I would like to hype up my new protoss favorite Creator. Those who haven't already, check out his series v. DRG in Iron Squid last week. Watch his FFs. Most amazing FFs that I have seen with no exaggeration. The speed, precision, and effectiveness were simply magical. I won't spoil the results but the series was nail-biting.

If Creator doesn't go deep in this season's GSL, toss has little hope. Parting is, well, partying with his new-found wealth, and Squirtle is being disgruntled by jealousy. MC/Huk will do their thing.. which means _______ (insert your own thoughts). I am betting large on Creator this season. The dude deserves as much attention from the community as Leenock does.

TelecoM

United States10894 Posts

January 15 2013 05:26 GMT

#500

Gogo stephano! win it all!! I think DRG will roll stephano though honestly...Hope for the best for the foreigner zerg hope!~