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snively
United States1159 Posts
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Mariosatr
294 Posts
Sniper's ZvT isn't necessarily bad, but with GuMiho and Bomber being two of the best Terrans (save maybe MKP), it is going to be nowhere near as easy as everyone made out. It does some like HuK will be a pushover, but that may not be enough for the Code S champion to stay in Code S. He does have a fairly high chance of making it through, but if he wins his group the Round of 16 could look easy compared to this group. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32736 Posts
On January 15 2013 07:11 Shellshock1122 wrote: People are underrating B4 and YoDa probably I agree, group D is actually one of the better groups out there, it just lacks the star power. Probably one of the closest groups out there (except for HyuN who is the outlier). YoDa shows glimpses of brilliance every once in a while, and B4 is a fairly strong ZvT'er and occasionally good at every match-up. Squirtle is solid in every match-up and rarely gets flustered or lost. | ||
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On January 15 2013 07:17 Mariosatr wrote: Remember, people, while Sniper is a top Zerg, his ZvT is his worst match up. He did win the GSL last season, but his vT record in that season was 2-2, losing to MKP and Bogus but beating Polt and Ryung (EDIT: this was worse than his vP (3-0) and vZ (2-0)). IPL 5 did show us another side of him, too. He crushed through ZvZ and ZvP, with a terrifying 12-1 record, but he got knocked out by Terrans - twice. He lost to TheStC 2-0 in his first match (really? StC played well but he's not even Code S) and then to Polt 0-2. He did take out TaeJa, but he dropped a game there, too. TLPD also suggests it's his worst matchup; 56.10% winrate, compared to his ZvZ (60.38%) and ZvP (65.00%). Sniper's ZvT isn't necessarily bad, but with GuMiho and Bomber being two of the best Terrans (save maybe MKP), it is going to be nowhere near as easy as everyone made out. It does some like HuK will be a pushover, but that may not be enough for the Code S champion to stay in Code S. He does have a fairly high chance of making it through, but if he wins his group the Round of 16 could look easy compared to this group. Sniper has an advantage in that he plays Huk first. I just can't see him losing to Huk. From there even if he loses to Bomber or Gumiho once, he gets a second shot. If he just wins one bo3 against either Terran, he's through. In the unlikely event that Huk miraculously makes it from the loser's match instead of Gumiho or Bomber, it becomes even easier for him. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On January 15 2013 07:17 PhoenixVoid wrote: I agree, group D is actually one of the better groups out there, it just lacks the star power. Probably one of the closest groups out there (except for HyuN who is the outlier). YoDa shows glimpses of brilliance every once in a while, and B4 is a fairly strong ZvT'er and occasionally good at every match-up. Squirtle is solid in every match-up and rarely gets flustered or lost. B4 is on a long losing streak in ZvZ, and lost 2-0 to Hyun at IPL5, who he has to play first. His ZvT is his only matchup over 50%, and barely at that. He 2-1'ed his way to Code S directly from Code A playing only ZvT, but didn't really look convincing doing it. I don't think it's underestimating him, to say that he's one of the few players this season, who really doesn't feel like he belongs in Code S. | ||
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moskonia
Israel1448 Posts
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
May the foreigners go far this season, too! | ||
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JJH777
United States4376 Posts
On January 15 2013 07:41 xAdra wrote: Sad and mad that Whirlwind continues to be in the pool, that map is so ridiculously good for zerg. Other than that new maps are good. Sniper, as predicted, has to be the joykiller. Hoping for the 1/99 chance that HuK goes godlike and destroys Sniper so that we can have one less zerg in the tournament Whirlwind isn't a good map for zerg. It's one of the few maps that T/P can actually abuse Broodlord immobility on because it's so huge. It's only good for zerg for the early and mid game. Broodlord/Infestor pretty much isn't viable on whirlwind and that's the main thing people complain about. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
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JJH777
United States4376 Posts
On January 15 2013 08:14 TheBB wrote: Well, I ranked the groups too.
It's impossible for a group with MVP to be overrated. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On January 15 2013 09:13 Quakecomm wrote: This means we'll finally get at least one KeSPA outside of korea maybe? My brain hurt so much from trying to make sense of this >.< | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On January 15 2013 09:15 JJH777 wrote: It's impossible for a group with MVP to be overrated. you have seen Mvp's play recently right? Keen's best mu is TvT iirc, MKP is hot as hell right now, and if Mvp cant take a map off Goswser, how will he come close to RorO? It seems, Mvp has no chance, but then again, this is the GSL so i guess he does. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
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6BiT
513 Posts
On January 15 2013 09:18 TommyP wrote: you have seen Mvp's play recently right? Keen's best mu is TvT iirc, MKP is hot as hell right now, and if Mvp cant take a map off Goswser, how will he come close to RorO? It seems, Mvp has no chance, but then again, this is the GSL so i guess he does. No chance  Mvp is in the same group as MKP, 2 TvTs on his home turf... no chance it seems O_o | ||
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