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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 14 2013 22:15 GMT
#461
ooh huk. oh bb, good luck, thats all i can say.
TT_TT
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Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 22:18:59
January 14 2013 22:17 GMT
#462
Remember, people, while Sniper is a top Zerg, his ZvT is his worst match up. He did win the GSL last season, but his vT record in that season was 2-2, losing to MKP and Bogus but beating Polt and Ryung (EDIT: this was worse than his vP (3-0) and vZ (2-0)). IPL 5 did show us another side of him, too. He crushed through ZvZ and ZvP, with a terrifying 12-1 record, but he got knocked out by Terrans - twice. He lost to TheStC 2-0 in his first match (really? StC played well but he's not even Code S) and then to Polt 0-2. He did take out TaeJa, but he dropped a game there, too. TLPD also suggests it's his worst matchup; 56.10% winrate, compared to his ZvZ (60.38%) and ZvP (65.00%).

Sniper's ZvT isn't necessarily bad, but with GuMiho and Bomber being two of the best Terrans (save maybe MKP), it is going to be nowhere near as easy as everyone made out. It does some like HuK will be a pushover, but that may not be enough for the Code S champion to stay in Code S. He does have a fairly high chance of making it through, but if he wins his group the Round of 16 could look easy compared to this group.
A mind sharper than any blade.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
January 14 2013 22:17 GMT
#463
On January 15 2013 07:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 07:09 Grobyc wrote:
Honestly I think group D is a lot stronger than a number of the other groups, can't see why it's got the least votes. But then again I don't really follow the pro scene as much as everyone else [image loading]

People are underrating B4 and YoDa probably


I agree, group D is actually one of the better groups out there, it just lacks the star power. Probably one of the closest groups out there (except for HyuN who is the outlier). YoDa shows glimpses of brilliance every once in a while, and B4 is a fairly strong ZvT'er and occasionally good at every match-up. Squirtle is solid in every match-up and rarely gets flustered or lost.
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MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
January 14 2013 22:24 GMT
#464
Every new GSL are harder than the previous one.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 14 2013 22:37 GMT
#465
On January 15 2013 07:17 Mariosatr wrote:
Remember, people, while Sniper is a top Zerg, his ZvT is his worst match up. He did win the GSL last season, but his vT record in that season was 2-2, losing to MKP and Bogus but beating Polt and Ryung (EDIT: this was worse than his vP (3-0) and vZ (2-0)). IPL 5 did show us another side of him, too. He crushed through ZvZ and ZvP, with a terrifying 12-1 record, but he got knocked out by Terrans - twice. He lost to TheStC 2-0 in his first match (really? StC played well but he's not even Code S) and then to Polt 0-2. He did take out TaeJa, but he dropped a game there, too. TLPD also suggests it's his worst matchup; 56.10% winrate, compared to his ZvZ (60.38%) and ZvP (65.00%).

Sniper's ZvT isn't necessarily bad, but with GuMiho and Bomber being two of the best Terrans (save maybe MKP), it is going to be nowhere near as easy as everyone made out. It does some like HuK will be a pushover, but that may not be enough for the Code S champion to stay in Code S. He does have a fairly high chance of making it through, but if he wins his group the Round of 16 could look easy compared to this group.


Sniper has an advantage in that he plays Huk first. I just can't see him losing to Huk. From there even if he loses to Bomber or Gumiho once, he gets a second shot. If he just wins one bo3 against either Terran, he's through. In the unlikely event that Huk miraculously makes it from the loser's match instead of Gumiho or Bomber, it becomes even easier for him.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
January 14 2013 22:41 GMT
#466
Sad and mad that Whirlwind continues to be in the pool, that map is so ridiculously good for zerg. Other than that new maps are good. Sniper, as predicted, has to be the joykiller. Hoping for the 1/99 chance that HuK goes godlike and destroys Sniper so that we can have one less zerg in the tournament
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 22:51:06
January 14 2013 22:50 GMT
#467
On January 15 2013 07:17 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 07:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 15 2013 07:09 Grobyc wrote:
Honestly I think group D is a lot stronger than a number of the other groups, can't see why it's got the least votes. But then again I don't really follow the pro scene as much as everyone else [image loading]

People are underrating B4 and YoDa probably


I agree, group D is actually one of the better groups out there, it just lacks the star power. Probably one of the closest groups out there (except for HyuN who is the outlier). YoDa shows glimpses of brilliance every once in a while, and B4 is a fairly strong ZvT'er and occasionally good at every match-up. Squirtle is solid in every match-up and rarely gets flustered or lost.


B4 is on a long losing streak in ZvZ, and lost 2-0 to Hyun at IPL5, who he has to play first. His ZvT is his only matchup over 50%, and barely at that. He 2-1'ed his way to Code S directly from Code A playing only ZvT, but didn't really look convincing doing it. I don't think it's underestimating him, to say that he's one of the few players this season, who really doesn't feel like he belongs in Code S.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
January 14 2013 22:59 GMT
#468
Can't wait to see how the new map looks, but the map pool is so anti-toss its amazing, and with only 4 Protoss players left too... (can't count HuK)
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
January 14 2013 23:03 GMT
#469
NesTea's back in town!!! :-D

May the foreigners go far this season, too!
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4383 Posts
January 14 2013 23:04 GMT
#470
On January 15 2013 07:41 xAdra wrote:
Sad and mad that Whirlwind continues to be in the pool, that map is so ridiculously good for zerg. Other than that new maps are good. Sniper, as predicted, has to be the joykiller. Hoping for the 1/99 chance that HuK goes godlike and destroys Sniper so that we can have one less zerg in the tournament


Whirlwind isn't a good map for zerg. It's one of the few maps that T/P can actually abuse Broodlord immobility on because it's so huge. It's only good for zerg for the early and mid game. Broodlord/Infestor pretty much isn't viable on whirlwind and that's the main thing people complain about.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 14 2013 23:11 GMT
#471
stephano group looks doable...
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 14 2013 23:12 GMT
#472
I hope both Gumiho and Bomber make it out of that group, I want them both to have deep runs this season because they are way too good to be placing where they have been.
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 14 2013 23:14 GMT
#473
Well, I ranked the groups too.
  • Group A: Creator, Byul, Symbol, Life (2325)
  • Group B: Leenock, Baby, Curious, MC (2281)
  • Group C: Sniper, Huk, Bomber, Gumiho (2272)
  • Group D: Hyun, BBoongBBoong, Yoda, Squirtle (2215)
  • Group H: Innovation, Stephano, Hack, DRG (2203(.25))
  • Group G: Soulkey, Noblesse, Nestea, Taeja (2203)
  • Group E: Ryung, Losira, Byun, Parting (2151)
  • Group F: MarineKing, Roro, Keen, Mvp (2103)
Tl;dr: People are way overrating group F and underrating group B.
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Quakecomm
Profile Joined April 2012
United States344 Posts
January 15 2013 00:13 GMT
#474
This means we'll finally get at least one KeSPA outside of korea maybe?
gorkey island is the only good map
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4383 Posts
January 15 2013 00:15 GMT
#475
On January 15 2013 08:14 TheBB wrote:
Well, I ranked the groups too.
  • Group A: Creator, Byul, Symbol, Life (2325)
  • Group B: Leenock, Baby, Curious, MC (2281)
  • Group C: Sniper, Huk, Bomber, Gumiho (2272)
  • Group D: Hyun, BBoongBBoong, Yoda, Squirtle (2215)
  • Group H: Innovation, Stephano, Hack, DRG (2203(.25))
  • Group G: Soulkey, Noblesse, Nestea, Taeja (2203)
  • Group E: Ryung, Losira, Byun, Parting (2151)
  • Group F: MarineKing, Roro, Keen, Mvp (2103)
Tl;dr: People are way overrating group F and underrating group B.


It's impossible for a group with MVP to be overrated.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 15 2013 00:18 GMT
#476
On January 15 2013 09:13 Quakecomm wrote:
This means we'll finally get at least one KeSPA outside of korea maybe?


My brain hurt so much from trying to make sense of this >.<
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
January 15 2013 00:18 GMT
#477
On January 15 2013 09:15 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 08:14 TheBB wrote:
Well, I ranked the groups too.
  • Group A: Creator, Byul, Symbol, Life (2325)
  • Group B: Leenock, Baby, Curious, MC (2281)
  • Group C: Sniper, Huk, Bomber, Gumiho (2272)
  • Group D: Hyun, BBoongBBoong, Yoda, Squirtle (2215)
  • Group H: Innovation, Stephano, Hack, DRG (2203(.25))
  • Group G: Soulkey, Noblesse, Nestea, Taeja (2203)
  • Group E: Ryung, Losira, Byun, Parting (2151)
  • Group F: MarineKing, Roro, Keen, Mvp (2103)
Tl;dr: People are way overrating group F and underrating group B.


It's impossible for a group with MVP to be overrated.

you have seen Mvp's play recently right? Keen's best mu is TvT iirc, MKP is hot as hell right now, and if Mvp cant take a map off Goswser, how will he come close to RorO?

It seems, Mvp has no chance, but then again, this is the GSL so i guess he does.
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Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 15 2013 00:21 GMT
#478
awesome looking groups, hoping stephano goes far, also watching out for roro, drg and soulkey
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 15 2013 00:24 GMT
#479
in Huk I believe
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6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
January 15 2013 00:52 GMT
#480
On January 15 2013 09:18 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 09:15 JJH777 wrote:
On January 15 2013 08:14 TheBB wrote:
Well, I ranked the groups too.
  • Group A: Creator, Byul, Symbol, Life (2325)
  • Group B: Leenock, Baby, Curious, MC (2281)
  • Group C: Sniper, Huk, Bomber, Gumiho (2272)
  • Group D: Hyun, BBoongBBoong, Yoda, Squirtle (2215)
  • Group H: Innovation, Stephano, Hack, DRG (2203(.25))
  • Group G: Soulkey, Noblesse, Nestea, Taeja (2203)
  • Group E: Ryung, Losira, Byun, Parting (2151)
  • Group F: MarineKing, Roro, Keen, Mvp (2103)
Tl;dr: People are way overrating group F and underrating group B.


It's impossible for a group with MVP to be overrated.

you have seen Mvp's play recently right? Keen's best mu is TvT iirc, MKP is hot as hell right now, and if Mvp cant take a map off Goswser, how will he come close to RorO?

It seems, Mvp has no chance, but then again, this is the GSL so i guess he does.


No chance

Mvp is in the same group as MKP, 2 TvTs on his home turf... no chance it seems

O_o

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