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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 11 2013 08:12 GMT
#261
On January 11 2013 16:24 Thieving Magpie wrote:
The Elephant has finally entered the room.


Parting isn't an elephant... If anything, he's a freaking mammoth.
AdministratorBreak the chains
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
January 11 2013 08:12 GMT
#262
I thought it was okay that he wanted to join a foreign team to do more traveling. Guess he only left for money though. Not that there is anything more wrong with that but it just feels a little bit worse.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 08:17:07
January 11 2013 08:16 GMT
#263
t1 is the most logical choice all factors considered, though they could also use more trainees and coaches.

long term i think they should go after Life though, superior player
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Armada Vega
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada120 Posts
January 11 2013 08:18 GMT
#264
HA! I knew it, totally called it. You can check my past posts. In the thread where PartinG left ST and people thought it was EG or Liquid next. But I knew it was gonna be kespa. Now where's my cookie? I prefer chocolate chip
twitter: @ArmadaVega
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 08:19:48
January 11 2013 08:19 GMT
#265
So wanting to "live life" is just going to a Kespa team. Hope they are paying him way better.

On January 11 2013 17:18 Armada Vega wrote:
HA! I knew it, totally called it. You can check my past posts. In the thread where PartinG left ST and people thought it was EG or Liquid next. But I knew it was gonna be kespa. Now where's my cookie? I prefer chocolate chip


Quote or didn't happen.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 11 2013 08:21 GMT
#266
On January 11 2013 17:12 tylerf wrote:
I thought it was okay that he wanted to join a foreign team to do more traveling. Guess he only left for money though. Not that there is anything more wrong with that but it just feels a little bit worse.


As a huge Parting fan, I've got mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I feel that Startale made him what he is right now, and I find it difficult to imagine him without Startale, or Startale with Parting.

On the other hand, I think this is great for him. The KeSPA training regimen could potentially make him even better, and it could, potentially (at least in Winners League) bring a team from the bottom of the table up to the upper half. Another thing to note is that Koreans transferring to foreign teams tend to fall off after a while; and I would never want that to happen to a guy like Parting. With him going to a KeSPA team, at least it's almost guaranteed that we'll see him play on a very regular basis, though maybe not in many foreign tournaments, which he didn't really go to anyway.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 11 2013 08:22 GMT
#267
On January 11 2013 14:20 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Source: KeSPA release via ThisIsGame

The Association will receive bids on PartinG until the 11th, and in the case multiple teams make bids, the team to acquire PartinG will be decided on through a random drawing on the 14th with PartinG, and team and KeSPA officials present.

The above posting method will apply not only to PartinG, but all eSF players who become teamless at the end of their contracts and express their desire to join a KeSPA team.

Also, in the case this posting process occurs again for a teamless player, teams that have already acquired a player through the posting will receive a lesser priority in the bidding and lottery process.



Does this acutally mean that if Parting (or any other player) wanted to join KT Rolster he could end up being part of Samsung KHAN's roster ?
rly ?
MysticaL
Profile Joined December 2003
Canada118 Posts
January 11 2013 08:23 GMT
#268
Sounds fair, but instead of a "random drawing," I would really prefer Parting to be able to choose his team
Armada Vega
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada120 Posts
January 11 2013 08:24 GMT
#269
On January 11 2013 17:19 Godwrath wrote:
So wanting to "live life" is just going to a Kespa team. Hope they are paying him way better.

Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 17:18 Armada Vega wrote:
HA! I knew it, totally called it. You can check my past posts. In the thread where PartinG left ST and people thought it was EG or Liquid next. But I knew it was gonna be kespa. Now where's my cookie? I prefer chocolate chip


Quote or didn't happen.

you trying to get me banned for useless posts? T_T

my magical prediction January 3rd.
Link PartinG leaves Startale reply
On January 03 2013 18:08 Armada Vega wrote:
I don't see eg or liquid being in the picture. I feel like this has kespa written all over it. And if a high kespa team really wanted PartinG and threw money around, EG wouldn't have a chance.
twitter: @ArmadaVega
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 08:31:09
January 11 2013 08:30 GMT
#270
On January 11 2013 17:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 17:12 tylerf wrote:
I thought it was okay that he wanted to join a foreign team to do more traveling. Guess he only left for money though. Not that there is anything more wrong with that but it just feels a little bit worse.



On the other hand, I think this is great for him. The KeSPA training regimen could potentially make him even better, and it could, potentially (at least in Winners League) bring a team from the bottom of the table up to the upper half.


If he can still practice with many of the eSF players, sure, if not i don't think he will improve, at least not till very very long term when Kespa gets more topclass eSF players into it.

@Armada I was just kidding man ;p
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 11 2013 08:32 GMT
#271
On January 11 2013 17:24 Armada Vega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 17:19 Godwrath wrote:
So wanting to "live life" is just going to a Kespa team. Hope they are paying him way better.

On January 11 2013 17:18 Armada Vega wrote:
HA! I knew it, totally called it. You can check my past posts. In the thread where PartinG left ST and people thought it was EG or Liquid next. But I knew it was gonna be kespa. Now where's my cookie? I prefer chocolate chip


Quote or didn't happen.

you trying to get me banned for useless posts? T_T

my magical prediction January 3rd.
Link PartinG leaves Startale reply
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 18:08 Armada Vega wrote:
I don't see eg or liquid being in the picture. I feel like this has kespa written all over it. And if a high kespa team really wanted PartinG and threw money around, EG wouldn't have a chance.

You just copied the prediction of the guy in page 12!
On January 03 2013 10:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Omg?! I smell Kespa poaching...

"Start yo" -FlaSh
Armada Vega
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada120 Posts
January 11 2013 08:40 GMT
#272
On January 11 2013 17:32 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 17:24 Armada Vega wrote:
On January 11 2013 17:19 Godwrath wrote:
So wanting to "live life" is just going to a Kespa team. Hope they are paying him way better.

On January 11 2013 17:18 Armada Vega wrote:
HA! I knew it, totally called it. You can check my past posts. In the thread where PartinG left ST and people thought it was EG or Liquid next. But I knew it was gonna be kespa. Now where's my cookie? I prefer chocolate chip


Quote or didn't happen.

you trying to get me banned for useless posts? T_T

my magical prediction January 3rd.
Link PartinG leaves Startale reply
On January 03 2013 18:08 Armada Vega wrote:
I don't see eg or liquid being in the picture. I feel like this has kespa written all over it. And if a high kespa team really wanted PartinG and threw money around, EG wouldn't have a chance.

You just copied the prediction of the guy in page 12!
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 10:15 Holdenintherye wrote:
Omg?! I smell Kespa poaching...



lol ok this is getting funny now. no more of this. The truth is I never read any posts after the op. So I just made my post. but anyway. Good luck to PartinG. I hope its CJ Entus or KT Rolster.
twitter: @ArmadaVega
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 11 2013 08:46 GMT
#273
WTF Can't play WOL...he is going miss two rounds of SPL :S Why on earth would loadsa KESPA teams want him for SPL if he can't play until round 4 and 5. So strange the way KESPA works!

I just hope it is a good team he joins and they give him freedom to join those foreign tournaments, as WCS and WCG champion, quite arguably he is the champion of 2011, he needs to be defending some high profile titles!!
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 11 2013 08:47 GMT
#274
On January 11 2013 16:22 elmerpogs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 16:07 achan1058 wrote:
On January 11 2013 16:05 Plexa wrote:
On January 11 2013 15:56 NicksonReyes wrote:
On January 11 2013 15:54 TheEmulator wrote:
On January 11 2013 15:52 Aerisky wrote:
On January 11 2013 14:52 derpface wrote:
SKT1.Parting with Bisu retireing.

It's either SKT or SKT T1, not SKT1, to my knowledge.

SKT T1. The first T is Telecom, and the second T is team.

SKT1Rain .

I am sooooo happy I saw this post lol. Even SKT players get it wrong

Colour, color. Same thing.



I guess the first T is for Telecom the T for T1 does not stand for Team1 but Tier1 pertaining to internet connection since SKT is also an ISP

T1 is Team First. SKTelecom Team First
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
January 11 2013 08:48 GMT
#275
On January 11 2013 14:21 Shyndashu wrote:
KT rolster gg. but blocking him out from WoL i think is a good move. It's like throwing the lion in the pit with tiger cubs and expecting the cubs to win.

More like the opposite.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
skYTosS
Profile Joined January 2013
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 08:54:20
January 11 2013 08:51 GMT
#276
He won't participate in SPL if he joins foreign teams anyway, doesn't matter to him atm. Without participating in SPL, he will have free time to hunt for money in foreign tournaments, I think KeSPA teams will not have problems with that.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
January 11 2013 08:54 GMT
#277
On January 11 2013 16:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 16:43 chenchen wrote:
On January 11 2013 15:40 hzflank wrote:
On January 11 2013 15:24 chenchen wrote:
On January 11 2013 14:21 Shyndashu wrote:
KT rolster gg. but blocking him out from WoL i think is a good move. It's like throwing the lion in the pit with tiger cubs and expecting the cubs to win.


Kespa players are very good. This season of Proleague has shown some really nice games. It's really unfair and biased to assume that Parting would be so much better than the Kespa players when he's lost to multiple Kespa players before.


He's the WCS world champion. He recently won a few other minor events (WCG) and is on form at the moment. Parting is so much better than almost all players, Kespa or not.


All the top Koreans are basically around the same level. Literally no one, not even 2011 MVP, has demonstrated actual complete dominance for extended periods of time. Every single player has had their ups and downs. Players appear, vanish, and reappear in the span of months.

Parting might do well in Proleague, but there's no guarantee that he would dominate like "lions among tiger cubs."


I don't think anyone is trying to say he will never lose a game, but you're ignorant if you think players haven't shown " dominance " at points during sc2. There are lots of cases of dominance. 2011 GSL January Mvp. GSL May & July Nestea where he won one of the seasons without losing a single game. Mvp from July 2011 to December 2011. MMA from GSL Oct to Blizzard Cup. Squirtle at IPL4 and 2012 GSL S2. Marineking in early 2012 with his back to back MLG wins in the winter season. DRG in early/mid 2012, winning a GSL, two MLG's and getting second place in two MLG's. Leenock in late 2012 winning a MLG, getting second in another MLG, and winning IPL5. And most recently Life winning two GSL's and an MLG in the span of two months, and Parting at BWC, WCG then Blizzard Cup taking 2 golds and a silver in three premier tournaments in about a month span, also winning the MLG tournament of champions.

Right now Parting and Life are on the top of the world, they are " dominating ".

They might all be near the same " skill level " but all of them but a select few are missing the qualities needed to become a multiple champion and perform in high stakes situations. Mvp is known for winning just because he's Mvp, despite not being at the top of the " skill " level.

If Parting can keep his form he will be the best player in Proleague and have the best record when he starts playing in round 4, assuming he adjusts to HOTS well.


I said extended periods of time. For all of the examples you gave, except January 2011 MVP, all of the players looked incredibly mortal in their successful runs. Even if they did not lose very much or not lose at all, many games looked incredibly close and had outcomes which could be ascribed to luck. Despite all that, as I've stated earlier, even the best players performing at their absolute best dip up and down.

No one has been consistently dominant in SC2 so far. At any given moment, the "rank ten" player or even "rank twenty" player could knock out the "top three" player in any given situation. It has happened over and over again.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 11 2013 08:54 GMT
#278
On January 11 2013 17:22 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 14:20 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Source: KeSPA release via ThisIsGame

The Association will receive bids on PartinG until the 11th, and in the case multiple teams make bids, the team to acquire PartinG will be decided on through a random drawing on the 14th with PartinG, and team and KeSPA officials present.

The above posting method will apply not only to PartinG, but all eSF players who become teamless at the end of their contracts and express their desire to join a KeSPA team.

Also, in the case this posting process occurs again for a teamless player, teams that have already acquired a player through the posting will receive a lesser priority in the bidding and lottery process.



Does this acutally mean that if Parting (or any other player) wanted to join KT Rolster he could end up being part of Samsung KHAN's roster ?

,gah, more backstage bullshit. typical asian business practice
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
skYTosS
Profile Joined January 2013
United States188 Posts
January 11 2013 08:59 GMT
#279
On January 11 2013 17:54 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 17:22 algue wrote:
On January 11 2013 14:20 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Source: KeSPA release via ThisIsGame

The Association will receive bids on PartinG until the 11th, and in the case multiple teams make bids, the team to acquire PartinG will be decided on through a random drawing on the 14th with PartinG, and team and KeSPA officials present.

The above posting method will apply not only to PartinG, but all eSF players who become teamless at the end of their contracts and express their desire to join a KeSPA team.

Also, in the case this posting process occurs again for a teamless player, teams that have already acquired a player through the posting will receive a lesser priority in the bidding and lottery process.



Does this acutally mean that if Parting (or any other player) wanted to join KT Rolster he could end up being part of Samsung KHAN's roster ?

,gah, more backstage bullshit. typical asian business practice


It is just similar to the draft process in US professional sports. Like in NBA draft, you enter the draft with some kind of guaranteed contract if you get picked, but teams choose you, you can't choose team. IMO, KeSPA always copies NBA style.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 11 2013 08:59 GMT
#280
God, I love Parting.

If there was one player who would be chosen to a new team by fucking random drawing and make it into some gigantic event it would be him. If we had more Partings in SC2, then I don't care how shit the balance is, the game would be the #1 e-sport.

I really hope he goes to Soul for a few reasons.

A) It would be fate and give us tons of puns.
B) They need a face to the franchise. Hwasin was their face - with the fangirls at least - but then he turned out to be a cheater. Calm and Kal are both retired and never had the same impact as other aces. Not saying Bogus isn't good, but he doesn't bring in the fangirls.
C) Parity.

Team 8 could also use Parting, but seeing as they're sponsored by KeSPA, it would open a can of worms if the KeSPA team somehow got one of the best players in the world.
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