EPTPartinG to join KeSPA team - Page 15
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 11 2013 17:54 oneofthem wrote: ,gah, more backstage bullshit. typical asian business practice Yeah, typical asian business like NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB... Oh wait... | ||
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negativedge
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 11 2013 17:54 chenchen wrote: I said extended periods of time. For all of the examples you gave, except January 2011 MVP, all of the players looked incredibly mortal in their successful runs. Even if they did not lose very much or not lose at all, many games looked incredibly close and had outcomes which could be ascribed to luck. Despite all that, as I've stated earlier, even the best players performing at their absolute best dip up and down. No one has been consistently dominant in SC2 so far. At any given moment, the "rank ten" player or even "rank twenty" player could knock out the "top three" player in any given situation. It has happened over and over again. You're actually completely wrong, from MLG Anaheim to Blizzard Cup Mvp either won every tournament he entered or lost after making top 4 to only two players in premiers. Those players being Leenock and MMA, who were the rank 2 and 3 players at the time. He won MLG Anaheim, GSL August, Blizzcon, WCG KR, Arena of Legends Team Ace Invitational, MLG Global Invitational Korea and WCG world finals. Took second in GSL October ( losing to MMA, rank 2 player ) got to the semi finals in GSL Nov ( lost to Leenock, the rank 3 player ) Lost to Leenock in MLG providence in the 4th place match after coming from the open bracket. Lost to MMA in the Blizzard Cup, and lost to MMA in the GeForce Pro/Am. For those 5 months he only lost a series that eliminated him from a tournament to those two players and once to Naniwa in the MLG global invitational ( non premier tournament ) during Providence. You're nitpicking saying things like " they may have won but the games were close or luck based ". It's just grasping at straws, if the game was truly so random you wouldn't have players who win 3+ premier tournaments in a short period of time. | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 11 2013 18:05 vthree wrote: Yeah, typical asian business like NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB... Oh wait... none of which, not even the japanese posting system, is so backstage. get your tribalism in check find me a process with practically 0 marginal value for bidding high in any professional sports league, and you'll see a very team dominated system with no players rights. | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
[B]Team 8 could also use Parting, but seeing as they're sponsored by KeSPA, it would open a can of worms if the KeSPA team somehow got one of the best players in the world. this basically happened in reverse in the NBA, where the NBA run Hornets had to move Chris Paul, and then the NBA rejected a completed trade for him and essentially picked where he ended up playing. in this case though, I don't think it would be that bad. he has already negotiated his salary, so it's not like T8 could get him on the cheap. sure, you could call the randomization process into question, but that could be the case wherever he goes. that said, I don't think there's any chance he goes to T8. they could use the Jaedong money to buy him, but they sold JD for a reason, and it wasn't because he wasn't good enough. | ||
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eMGmoG
Switzerland244 Posts
The Association will receive bids on PartinG until the 11th, and in the case multiple teams make bids, the team to acquire PartinG will be decided on through a random drawing on the 14th with PartinG, and team and KeSPA officials present. so the teams that bid, they cant decide to give him more salary trough the bidding process? the salary is set if i read that correctly. this drawing is weird, i mean, why cant he decide where he wanna go if multiple teams bid the same salary and terms? Yeah, typical asian business like NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB... Oh wait... its not really like this in european football. if u wanna buy a player and multiple teams bid, hey, then u gonna pay more. | ||
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tiaz
Sweden231 Posts
Its in his full right to do this and I will support him no matter what. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
why cant he decide where he wanna go if multiple teams bid the same salary and terms? because kespa exists to support the teams, not the players. in this case, I think it's a pretty good method, honestly. gives the lower tier teams a better shot. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On January 11 2013 18:13 eMGmoG wrote: so the teams that bid, they cant decide to give him more salary trough the bidding process? the salary is set if i read that correctly. this drawing is weird, i mean, why cant he decide where he wanna go if multiple teams bid the same salary and terms? They are doing there best to preserve the balance of the league. If they let the highest bidder win, it would for sure be SKT or KT. If its parting's choice its most probably still gonna be SKT or KT (maybe STX coz SOUL). Atleast with the random draft system, there is a chance that the lower half tier teams are gonna get him, if they bid. | ||
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FeltFace
Australia577 Posts
On January 11 2013 14:22 GTR wrote: Only if they have their contracts expire. Parting's contract expired at the end of the year. Also dislike that multiple bids results in a random drawing. It should go to whoever has the lowest ranking at the time of the 'draw' (so Samsung in this case). It should go to whoever bids highest, otherwise Parting could get shafted. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 11 2013 18:17 iLoveKT wrote: They are doing there best to preserve the balance of the league. If they let the highest bidder win, it would for sure be SKT or KT. If its parting's choice its most probably still gonna be SKT or KT (maybe STX coz SOUL). Atleast with the random draft system, there is a chance that the lower half tier teams are gonna get him, if they bid. skt or kt can pay the other teams to have parting. it's a coase problem with a backstage solution. only difference between this outcome and a free bid system with the highest contract winning is that the smaller teams instead of parting will be getting his value. | ||
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Miserie
Belgium92 Posts
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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FeltFace
Australia577 Posts
On January 11 2013 18:17 iLoveKT wrote: They are doing there best to preserve the balance of the league. If they let the highest bidder win, it would for sure be SKT or KT. If its parting's choice its most probably still gonna be SKT or KT (maybe STX coz SOUL). Atleast with the random draft system, there is a chance that the lower half tier teams are gonna get him, if they bid. Fair enough, I just hope Parting doesn't get shafted (lower salary than what he's worth, bad team environment to be going into etc.). In the end it's all about results, whatever doesn't hurt his results. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On January 11 2013 18:16 ThePhan2m wrote: Why wouldnt he be able to play right away, and calling it unfair? EG-TL has tons of Code S level players. Never heard that was unfair?? Because rosters have to be set before the start of each round. I believe that's why Revival couldn't play for EG-TL in Round 1. | ||
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