DesRow joins FXO.NA

On January 01 2013 01:26 Sea_Food wrote:
i red this on another topic already lilr 5h ago ...

On January 01 2013 01:27 crbox wrote:
congrats to him! I assume he's not in KR anymore?

On January 01 2013 03:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Searchiiiiiiiiiiiiing, SeeKeR and desRow!

Good luck on your new adventures and happy new year, y'all

On January 01 2013 04:17 zul wrote:
I`m so confused about this o.O

FXO is kind of a top tier organisation and players joining should either have a big name or shown A LOT of potential during the latest weeks, if you want to invest in potential. Desrow doesnt fit any of these criteria and therefore FXO loses something that I would describe as prestige.

GL though.

On January 01 2013 01:37 LuckyFool wrote:


He hasn't been in KR since June I believe. He was living in MoW house for a while, not sure if he went home to Canada or still there.

On January 01 2013 06:28 chipmonklord17 wrote:


I'd argue that is the same mentality as the FXO.KR squad. Almost everyone who is on FXO (anywhere for that matter) was pretty much trained from "nothing". Almost everyone on FXO has always been there and grown there (minus the new FXO.NA guys)their entire careers. That being said Desrow is one of if not the best player on FXO.NA to my knowledge.

On January 01 2013 06:37 FabledIntegral wrote:
Odd considering he left LgN, and LgN = FXO.NA pretty much.

On January 01 2013 07:14 Fyodor wrote:
I don't get why teams sign these people who are clearly not professional players.

Assuming FXO.NA is supposed to be a professional team and not starting the gamer's equivalent of comedy central.

On January 01 2013 10:30 Zocat wrote:
Hope he changes his attitude and doesnt call people jews as an insult. (see MoW food incident)

If that's the case gl.

On January 01 2013 10:36 Glurkenspurk wrote:


Groan. You accidentally say one stupid thing in your anger and it sticks with you forever.

On January 01 2013 10:30 Zocat wrote:
****

Good luck in your new team.

On January 01 2013 10:36 Glurkenspurk wrote:


Groan. You accidentally say one stupid thing in your anger and it sticks with you forever.

On January 01 2013 12:41 amiGo_O wrote:
I am amazed that SC2 players can find top team (FXO are GSTL winners) without ANY achievement ... considering he has been living in Korea and now in MoW house, it is kind of embarrassing that he was not able to win anything ...

On January 01 2013 12:41 amiGo_O wrote:
I am amazed that SC2 players can find top team (FXO are GSTL winners) without ANY achievement ... considering he has been living in Korea and now in MoW house, it is kind of embarrassing that he was not able to win anything ...

On January 01 2013 12:41 amiGo_O wrote:
I am amazed that SC2 players can find top team (FXO are GSTL winners) without ANY achievement ... considering he has been living in Korea and now in MoW house, it is kind of embarrassing that he was not able to win anything ...

On January 01 2013 12:41 amiGo_O wrote:
I am amazed that SC2 players can find top team (FXO are GSTL winners) without ANY achievement ... considering he has been living in Korea and now in MoW house, it is kind of embarrassing that he was not able to win anything ...

On January 01 2013 21:48 desRow wrote:


I addressed this to my fans in a video blog but you probably didn't see it. My weight has been an issue all my life. For 4 months out of 6 in Korea and 2 months out of 3 in Poland I was heavily depressed and ate a lot and barely played 20hours a week. As of right now, I am on a diet and have never been happier in my life. I've been playing 12hours a day for the past 2weeks in hopes to make a big splash near the end of 2013. I want people to change their perception of me through hard work and hopefully results.

Thanks a lot for the nice comments guys!, I expected and deserved worst <3

Wish you all a good 2013

On January 01 2013 12:39 PDizzle wrote:
guess you could call that a HUGE pickup

On January 01 2013 04:27 Pokebunny wrote:

Have you been keeping track of FXO.NA? Desrow is more prestigious than most of their players, it's a team of up and comers. Not quite the same mentality as the FXO.KR squad, just helping to grow the little guys.

On January 01 2013 01:26 Sea_Food wrote:
i red this on another topic already lilr 5h ago ...

On January 01 2013 23:32 PH wrote:

What topic?

On January 01 2013 21:48 desRow wrote:


I addressed this to my fans in a video blog but you probably didn't see it. My weight has been an issue all my life. For 4 months out of 6 in Korea and 2 months out of 3 in Poland I was heavily depressed and ate a lot and barely played 20hours a week. As of right now, I am on a diet and have never been happier in my life. I've been playing 12hours a day for the past 2weeks in hopes to make a big splash near the end of 2013. I want people to change their perception of me through hard work and hopefully results.

Thanks a lot for the nice comments guys!, I expected and deserved worst <3

Wish you all a good 2013

On January 01 2013 23:20 zul wrote:

The difference in the clantag is only a minor one and most people will still aknowledge that desrow is playing for the same organisation as Leenock and Gumiho do. It sure lifts Desrows status, but lowers it for the organisation itself.

On January 02 2013 01:43 MisterFred wrote:


I agree. I have to question why FXO.NA decided to pick him up.

On January 01 2013 22:41 RiSkyToss wrote:

you've been saying this for the last year and a half.

On January 01 2013 02:28 Archile wrote:
fantastic for DesRow.... he's always been a nice guy, but his skills have been somewhat lacking compared to the top foreigners. Hopefully being on a stable team with fantastic practice partners in FXO EU and FXO KR will help him advance

On January 02 2013 02:04 Natalya wrote:


Are you kidding me? When i watched his stream (long ago) he had one of the most detestable personality i had ever had a chance to observe... From calling his opponent a noob and calling himself good when floatin 1,2k minerals on 3 base to nasty talk and what not...

On January 02 2013 02:20 Northern_iight wrote:


everyone can get nasty every now and then but overall he IS a nice guy. Especially when comparing desrow to other progamers that generally don't get the heat but are more popular.

I'm a nice guy too, but sometimes I talk shit when I play games. Sounds familiar anyone?

Desrow has good streaming numbers/volume the more he streams the less pressure it puts on my korean players to stream when they can be practising to hit quotas. its a pretty simple concept

As I told desrow, if his streaming numbers weren't what they are I would never consider him

On January 02 2013 02:26 number01 wrote:


The difference is that desrow is kind of a personality on the scene, you are not. People will watch desrow and like him depending on what he does.

See the response from FXO

On January 02 2013 02:27 Seeker wrote:

If you still don't understand why we picked up desRow even after reading my post on page three then I really don't know what else more to say :/
Just trust us when I say that we are fully aware of what we are doing by investing in desRow.

On January 02 2013 02:20 Northern_iight wrote:


everyone can get nasty every now and then but overall he IS a nice guy. Especially when comparing desrow to other progamers that generally don't get the heat but are more popular.

I'm a nice guy too, but sometimes I talk shit when I play games. Sounds familiar anyone?

On January 02 2013 05:25 Natalya wrote:



I watched a little bit of his stream today and he has slightly changed. Less trashtalk for sure. Still the same arogance. Also, there is a difference between talking shit from time to time for yourself when you are alone and continually talking shit (like continually, like 100% of the time he was streaming) when you wear a mic for all your viewers to see/hear. Back then, he left me with the impression he was playing starcraft so that he could have an opportunity to trasktalk on something/someone. Also made me feel like he enjoyed knowing people were listening to what he was saying. Back then, he was talking shit and was proud of it. He was even talking shit after games he won. Also made me feel like streaming was not about helping people but about letting his epeen grow. I have no idea how you could call that guy a nice guy.

Everyone is bad, only GSL/OSL winners aren't bad--desrow

On January 01 2013 10:36 Glurkenspurk wrote:


Groan. You accidentally say one stupid thing in your anger and it sticks with you forever.

On January 03 2013 00:47 bK- wrote:

Welcome to the professional world. You cannot say things like that or they absolutely tarnish your reputation. Pro gaming is a form of business and in the real world he might of gotten fired/sued. Luckily for him the Pro gaming is not a fully developed business and would not carry over into a real world job. Now I would not harp on him to much but I really doubt his attitude will change given he has been like this since release of the game. There are tons of "accidents" outside of the name calling that have tarnished his reputation. Just hope he doesn't remain as a black stain on FXO.NA roster.

On January 02 2013 09:06 FXOdesRow wrote:


You must have missed the part where I often say that I am bad at this game. Everyone is bad, only GSL/OSL winners aren't bad and that's very temporary. I'm just being objective. Of course sometimes there's a little bit of ego but I know that I suck. I let my viewers know as well and no I help people by analyzing my play and letting them ask questions and give suggestions.

On January 03 2013 06:43 doffe wrote:


This is a pretty poor defense. You start by claiming that you infact yourself think that you are "bad" at the game. Then you continue by claiming that most of the players are just that, putting you in the same group as them once again. Claiming that only GSL/OSL winners are not bad is just silly. You are a mediocre player at best. Id say Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, Nerchio, Thorzain etc are certinly to be considered very good players, most of them still struggle with the very top and you certinly are several tiers below that. You still certinly have potential and are better then 99% of the posters on this forum, myself included, but how and why you have gotten a contract with a team eludes me. It definatly does not have anything to do with your current skill.

If you deserve it or not, well, thats for someone else to judge. If people are entertained by your stream then fine, thats someway the only thing that really matters.

On January 04 2013 07:21 aust77 wrote:


desRow put in over a thousand hours of streaming in 2012, and I've watched him for at least a few dozen of them. Though he has had his fair share of drama in the past, the entirety of the time I have seen him play he has been constructive, humorous and dedicated. The majority of naysayers in this thread so far have painted him to be a self-absorbed, drama-queen failure of a player. In truth he is a GM-level streamer with plenty of room for improvement who has made HUMAN mistakes. You mentioned NaNiwa in your post as someone who is 'several tiers above him', but did he did not probe rush NesTea once and label him an idiot? Hasn't Stephano failed to show up to a number of online tournament matches, and made sexual comments regarding minors? Where's the rage? Top-tier, admirable professionals, you say?

On January 04 2013 13:28 doffe wrote:


I never made a comment about desRows behaviour so I dont know what you are talking about. He tried to defend calling people bad by claiming that he on stream often called himself bad aswell. He then went on saying that everyone but the winners of GSL/OSLs are bad, this is what I commented on. I never claimed that his behaviour in any way is worse then that of the higher tier foreigners and I definatly from watching his stream would agree that he in general is very manner. But honestly, Naniwa isnt bm while streaming either, not from my limited experience.

Im not sure why you even brought this upp though, you write as if I had called desRow the badguy and claimed that stephano, naniwa etc are super awsome manner guys. Yes I mentioned Naniwa as being several tiers above desRow, he is, skillwise. desRow honestly isnt close to that of Nani and Stephano. Nani was rank 1 GM on EU last I watched him and he still won almost all games he got. 80ish % or so. desRow has the last few days been playing and losing to rank 15-10s on NA masters. I have hit that same level of players on ladder and im fucking awful. Im not saying im the same skill as desRow but simply being able to hit the same level of players as me, well, its not a good sign :D

On January 03 2013 06:43 doffe wrote:


This is a pretty poor defense. You start by claiming that you infact yourself think that you are "bad" at the game. Then you continue by claiming that most of the players are just that, putting you in the same group as them once again. Claiming that only GSL/OSL winners are not bad is just silly. You are a mediocre player at best. Id say Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, Nerchio, Thorzain etc are certinly to be considered very good players, most of them still struggle with the very top and you certinly are several tiers below that. You still certinly have potential and are better then 99% of the posters on this forum, myself included, but how and why you have gotten a contract with a team eludes me. It definatly does not have anything to do with your current skill.

If you deserve it or not, well, thats for someone else to judge. If people are entertained by your stream then fine, thats someway the only thing that really matters.

On January 04 2013 13:28 doffe wrote:


I never made a comment about desRows behaviour so I dont know what you are talking about. He tried to defend calling people bad by claiming that he on stream often called himself bad aswell. He then went on saying that everyone but the winners of GSL/OSLs are bad, this is what I commented on. I never claimed that his behaviour in any way is worse then that of the higher tier foreigners and I definatly from watching his stream would agree that he in general is very manner. But honestly, Naniwa isnt bm while streaming either, not from my limited experience.

Im not sure why you even brought this upp though, you write as if I had called desRow the badguy and claimed that stephano, naniwa etc are super awsome manner guys. Yes I mentioned Naniwa as being several tiers above desRow, he is, skillwise. desRow honestly isnt close to that of Nani and Stephano. Nani was rank 1 GM on EU last I watched him and he still won almost all games he got. 80ish % or so. desRow has the last few days been playing and losing to rank 15-10s on NA masters. I have hit that same level of players on ladder and im fucking awful. Im not saying im the same skill as desRow but simply being able to hit the same level of players as me, well, its not a good sign :D

On January 05 2013 05:07 FXOdesRow wrote:


This exact type of post is why I hate slumping and playing poorly while streaming. Playing 12hours a day over a period of 20days is something I've never done before. My mental was broken and I was burned out. You judge me on a slump which is extremely frustrating.

Around 100 A.D. Epictetus wrote:
If someone handed over your body to any person who met you, you would be vexed; but that you hand over your mind to any person that comes along, so that, if he reviles you, it is disturbed and troubled–are you not ashamed of that?