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[Poll] 2012 GSL Grand Final Awards - Page 16

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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
December 15 2012 02:09 GMT
#301
mvp vs squirtle, with mvp vs life being a close second. gumiho vs mma in 3rd place in my personal ranking.

mvp
startale

liquid-bias aside, these two are definitely the player and the team of the year.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 16 2012 22:40 GMT
#302
On December 13 2012 22:09 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 22:06 Nisyax wrote:
I am still sad about the battlecruisers


If only he could have EMP-ed Squirtle Mothership, the fight could have turned out differently.
Quite sad MVP didn't seen that Mamaship coming.

I still remember MVP clustered his BCs for just a second and Squirtle Mamaship came up from the high ground and vortex those BCs.

Then 3/3 BCs just melted to 3/3 Archons.

It was depressing to watch.T.T



Mvp did know about the mothership and according to the inteview, EMPing it was on his mind and he just misscontroled. Shows why vortex should probably be nerfed to death. Still a cool game in a great series though.
maru G5L pls
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 16 2012 23:40 GMT
#303
On December 17 2012 07:40 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 22:09 FakeDeath wrote:
On December 13 2012 22:06 Nisyax wrote:
I am still sad about the battlecruisers


If only he could have EMP-ed Squirtle Mothership, the fight could have turned out differently.
Quite sad MVP didn't seen that Mamaship coming.

I still remember MVP clustered his BCs for just a second and Squirtle Mamaship came up from the high ground and vortex those BCs.

Then 3/3 BCs just melted to 3/3 Archons.

It was depressing to watch.T.T



Mvp did know about the mothership and according to the inteview, EMPing it was on his mind and he just misscontroled. Shows why vortex should probably be nerfed to death. Still a cool game in a great series though.


Not to derail the conversation, but if there was like a warning the vortex went off before it happened as opposed to being instantaneous it might be ok. Thinking like how nukes can be avoided, or comparing to something like Kog'Maws ultimate in LoL where you get something like a second to dodge. Just enough time to react somewhat.

Doesn't make the final battle any less epic. I mean that BC army was freaking amazing and Squirtle was JUST able to get a vortex mothership to flank in time. If MVP had gone for that base first it never would have happened. There were like 50 different ways that could have played out.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 16 2012 23:57 GMT
#304
Honestly, that Vortex shenanigan was acceptable because Mvp won the series.

What if Squirtle had won that series and the BC/Vortex game was Game 7? I bet there would be a humongous shitstorm complaining about Vortex and how it nullifies army advantage and how Mvp totally outplayed Squirtle to get that beautiful army composition, only to lose it in a second due to broken Vortex.

It's all about perspective. I suppose we should thank Mvp for winning the series, because his victory (in my opinion) saved the series from being used as an example of imbalance (remember that this was when lategame PvT was considered to be waaay too strong for Terran to deal with).
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 00:34 GMT
#305
I think the vortex would have been a decent ending if squirtle had come from 3-0 down to winning 4-3 with a vortex haha
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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
December 18 2012 22:02 GMT
#306
Ah yeah the Gumiho MMA match, forgot about that.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
December 18 2012 22:55 GMT
#307
MVP, startle, MVP vs. squirtle.

seem to be some overlap..
hmm... let's think about it
iVitaminC
Profile Joined November 2011
United States27 Posts
December 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#308
How can you guys vote for TeamLiquid in the GSL tour.. they did nothing in GSTL and i feel that is what this is aimed towards.. Teams like FXO or even StarTale should be way higher in these votes...
When ahead!!...... Kill your opponent?
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
December 18 2012 23:35 GMT
#309
Gumiho vs MMA was my personal favorite.
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#310
On December 19 2012 08:30 iVitaminC wrote:
How can you guys vote for TeamLiquid in the GSL tour.. they did nothing in GSTL and i feel that is what this is aimed towards.. Teams like FXO or even StarTale should be way higher in these votes...

Again, its favorite team rather then the best.
Someone can vote for team liquid cause of their uniforms if they want.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
December 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#311
On December 19 2012 08:36 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:30 iVitaminC wrote:
How can you guys vote for TeamLiquid in the GSL tour.. they did nothing in GSTL and i feel that is what this is aimed towards.. Teams like FXO or even StarTale should be way higher in these votes...

Again, its favorite team rather then the best.
Someone can vote for team liquid cause of their uniforms if they want.


favorite team IN THE GSL TOUR, though. Not which team is your favorite that also participated in the GSL tour, but which one was your favorite in the GSL tour.

There's a reason why favorite player has only 2% MMA fans, although there are WAY more many diehard MMA fans than that (including myself) -- because he fucking sucked shit in 2012 GSL, and MVP is way more deserving for the vote because he won and was in the finals out of 5 seasons, the other two being in ro16 - pretty fucking impressive.
hmm... let's think about it
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
December 22 2012 09:24 GMT
#312
hahaha
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 22 2012 09:39 GMT
#313
On December 19 2012 11:29 LowEloPlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:36 Assirra wrote:
On December 19 2012 08:30 iVitaminC wrote:
How can you guys vote for TeamLiquid in the GSL tour.. they did nothing in GSTL and i feel that is what this is aimed towards.. Teams like FXO or even StarTale should be way higher in these votes...

Again, its favorite team rather then the best.
Someone can vote for team liquid cause of their uniforms if they want.


favorite team IN THE GSL TOUR, though. Not which team is your favorite that also participated in the GSL tour, but which one was your favorite in the GSL tour.


I... do not see the difference.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
December 22 2012 09:43 GMT
#314
LG-IM wins the team award, Mvp wins Terran of the Year award. All is right with the world. <3
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 22 2012 09:45 GMT
#315
and in the end these votes didn't even matter
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 09:47:35
December 22 2012 09:47 GMT
#316
wrong thread
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 10:02:22
December 22 2012 10:00 GMT
#317
On December 22 2012 18:45 Fionn wrote:
and in the end these votes didn't even matter

Would you post the 4/5 other polls?

You still got 2/3 of our website's desired results. The only one that failed was the team poll.

Edit:

Also, 1100 voted for LG-IM.

If you consider the fact that most Korean teams wouldn't vote for a foreign team, it's only 300 votes to beat TL. So this poll may have given LG-IM the win.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33675 Posts
December 22 2012 10:03 GMT
#318
it's still funny :o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
December 23 2012 03:20 GMT
#319
mvp vs squrtle hands down is the closest epic series ever. Even down to the last 2 minutes of the final game i had no clue who was going to win
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
December 23 2012 04:13 GMT
#320
On December 17 2012 08:57 Entirety wrote:
Honestly, that Vortex shenanigan was acceptable because Mvp won the series.

What if Squirtle had won that series and the BC/Vortex game was Game 7? I bet there would be a humongous shitstorm complaining about Vortex and how it nullifies army advantage and how Mvp totally outplayed Squirtle to get that beautiful army composition, only to lose it in a second due to broken Vortex.

It's all about perspective. I suppose we should thank Mvp for winning the series, because his victory (in my opinion) saved the series from being used as an example of imbalance (remember that this was when lategame PvT was considered to be waaay too strong for Terran to deal with).


I'm glad Vortex's there for that actually, because a super optimal terran army like that is just unbeatable. no zerg or protoss composition can win against what MVP had, unless miscontrol happen like that and he gets his army vortexed.
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