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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 10 2012 17:35 GMT
#21
Why is Stephano 130th, behind players like Krass. He just beat 4 of the best code S players :o

Anyway, nice work, too bad it's so slow.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 10 2012 17:39 GMT
#22
Having some loading issues, mind if I ask who you're hosting with?
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 10 2012 17:39 GMT
#23
On December 11 2012 02:39 Butterednuts wrote:
Having some loading issues, mind if I ask who you're hosting with?

These guys: www.server4you.net

I wouldn't mind some profiling help, actually.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 10 2012 17:41 GMT
#24
On December 11 2012 02:35 Faust852 wrote:
Why is Stephano 130th, behind players like Krass. He just beat 4 of the best code S players :o

The latest list is updated as of November 28th. There is a new one every two weeks. If you're referring to the Korea vs. The World games, they aren't included yet.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Martyrc
Profile Joined May 2012
217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 17:46:25
December 10 2012 17:43 GMT
#25
LSC2 isn't in it either, I guess? :o Really surprised to see stephano so low, since it's clear he's still probably the best foreigner out there.

EDIT: This site is sick!! Oo, love the stats and all, much better than TLPD, that's for sure :D
¨First in, last out.¨
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 18:28:19
December 10 2012 17:48 GMT
#26
Maybe instead of the OP/UP summary you could post the matchup stats.

with maybe some kind of coefficient that indicates how often weaker players beat stronger players
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#27
Definitely loads faster now!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 18:09:46
December 10 2012 18:09 GMT
#28
Stephano fell from 1st to 130th in four weeks (which includes winning LSC2 & and streaking against the Korean team at IPL 5 and falling out in group-stages in WCS & Dreamhack).

I think your system may need some tinkering, Though I agree that SC2 is indeed quite volatile, I think your system for determining current strength is overly reliant on the most recent results.

*I just saw that it does not include games from IPL 5
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 10 2012 18:17 GMT
#29
I love your approach.

Does the rating for one period regard other periods at all?
Regarding the "Stephano issue". Would you really take Stephanos actual rating (#130) for your new predictions or something different?
Soulriser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States192 Posts
December 10 2012 18:21 GMT
#30
i enjoy how when i went on here, all of leenock's scores were going down, but his overall ranking was going up. lolol
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
December 10 2012 18:22 GMT
#31
finally!
congratulations!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
December 10 2012 18:27 GMT
#32

Best vs. Protoss
Bomber (2849)


It's working :D
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 10 2012 18:28 GMT
#33
On December 11 2012 03:17 00Visor wrote:
Does the rating for one period regard other periods at all?
Regarding the "Stephano issue". Would you really take Stephanos actual rating (#130) for your new predictions or something different?

1. Yes, the method for computing the rating in one period depends on the rating from the preceding period. There is no forward dependence.

2. I agree that it looks funny that Stephano is so low, but yes, I would use it. I don't think there's a place for making subjective tweaks to individual players.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 10 2012 18:31 GMT
#34
So sick, I've been wanting a combined Korea/international system for a while for my fantasy pinnacle bets.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
December 10 2012 18:35 GMT
#35
Nice stuff !
I love stats <3
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 10 2012 18:35 GMT
#36
On December 11 2012 03:28 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 03:17 00Visor wrote:
Does the rating for one period regard other periods at all?
Regarding the "Stephano issue". Would you really take Stephanos actual rating (#130) for your new predictions or something different?

1. Yes, the method for computing the rating in one period depends on the rating from the preceding period. There is no forward dependence.

2. I agree that it looks funny that Stephano is so low, but yes, I would use it. I don't think there's a place for making subjective tweaks to individual players.

You definitely shouldn't be making tweaks to fit individual players. After all, it could be our judgment that is lagging behind

You're using the database from sc2charts/mystarcraft, correct?
bpgbcg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States74 Posts
December 10 2012 18:38 GMT
#37
This looks awesome Bookmarked.
I don't have the creativity to think of a signature.
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 18:41:28
December 10 2012 18:39 GMT
#38
Pretty cool man!
Fact is, you just can't make a tournament perfect, like you would need to give ipl5 as one of the most stacked tournaments in history more points than the gsl code s which would be counter intuitive. So i'm fine with your way of doing it <3
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 10 2012 18:40 GMT
#39
On December 11 2012 03:35 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 03:28 TheBB wrote:
On December 11 2012 03:17 00Visor wrote:
Does the rating for one period regard other periods at all?
Regarding the "Stephano issue". Would you really take Stephanos actual rating (#130) for your new predictions or something different?

1. Yes, the method for computing the rating in one period depends on the rating from the preceding period. There is no forward dependence.

2. I agree that it looks funny that Stephano is so low, but yes, I would use it. I don't think there's a place for making subjective tweaks to individual players.

You're using the database from sc2charts/mystarcraft, correct?

Yeah, it's the most complete and up-to-date I could find. Still not perfect though, I had to clean it up a bit and remove some duplicate entries. I'm also a bit concerned because, for example, they still don't have the Proleague games in there.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
December 10 2012 18:46 GMT
#40
nice! could this be our new power rank? what's the difference between your ranking the the TLPD's ELO calculations?
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
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