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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 09:28:24
September 01 2012 09:19 GMT
#221
On September 01 2012 17:56 Waxangel wrote:
MaNa's period as an unbeatable PvT player passed a long time ago, like a year or so. That said, it's not like he started sucking at it, and having only one race to practice for is a big, big plus. MMA and Mvp are good TvP players, but tend to be a bit gimmicky. Expect siege tank builds


To be fair, MMA and MVP (and Taeja too I believe) were said to have TvP as their weakest matchup. Statiscally this is still true for MMA and MVP.
Still the weakest matchup of these top top players is scary and it will be hard for Mana.

On September 01 2012 17:49 mrtomjones wrote:
Not sure how people think C is harder than A.. Seed/Parting/Leenock?


Seed and Parting are strong lately, but MC and MKP have been a force since forever and are also very strong this year (1st and 4th best earning player).
Curious is one of the biggest underrated players. It will be his 5th consecutive Code S season. Leenock just crawled out a big slump. Dont overrate his MLG win, he beat zero current Code S players there.
Suhosin got lucky a second time qualifying for Code S with his cheesy strats. Strong in the run for worst Code S players. I bet JD can easily compete with him.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 01 2012 09:19 GMT
#222
Oh god, poor Mana.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 01 2012 09:22 GMT
#223
meh guess I'll do one too

+ Show Spoiler +
A: Seed, Parting

If Line gets out I'll swallow a sword. Hopefully it kills me as I don't want to live in a world where this guy is in the ro16. Leenock has gotten better at ZvP but still seems to rely on somewhat gimmicky play in the mu, not entirely convinced in him yet against protoss which is a shame because he's almost always fun to watch.

B: Symbol, herO

Haven't heard from Symbol in a little while and last time his momentum seemed to have stopped dead in its tracks as he got beat in gsl, osl, wcs, and wcg. But, so what? Prior to that he looked like a clear champion-class player and not since Nestea's glorious days have I been captivated by a Zerg so much. His mechanics are good, his understanding of Zerg is brilliant, he uses the full Zerg arsenal unlike any other Zerg these days, and he has an entire team of good Zergs to bounce ideas off of. You'd be a fool to write him off.

Also, herO is just a baller.

C: MC, Jaedong

MC is in great form right now and his PvZ is still likely the best out there. Jaedong is a bit of a reach but totally capable of making it, he'll have his work cut out for him though as MKP is still deadly and Curious has one of the best ZvZ in Korea.

D: Genius, Byun

3 gsl players with their ups and downs of mediocre and amazing + a kespa player that I'm not entirely comfortable with yet. Shot in the dark picks...

E: Taeja, MVP
Can this fucking group be any better? MMA vs MVP rematch..AGAIN and Mana from out of nowhere. Taeja has looked the best out of everyone recently, and despite MMA destroying MVP in their last encounters, I feel like this will be one where MMA finally loses.

F: Squirtle, Naniwa
Squirtle is just all around good, and seems to be the best pvp out there. Sniper is frankly more likely to come in 2nd...BUT Naniwa is absolutely capable and he's made ro8 twice now so I feel like taking another reach.

G: Nestea, Zergbong

Okay, so...Zergbong plays and totally fucks everything up with terrible play. But just as he's about to lose to JYP the real Nestea appears after months of absence. As it turns out Nestea was away on business in a distant galaxy, but before leaving
poured all his weakness into one being. Despite being an existence of pure fail, Zergbong was still of Nestea's essence and thus was deemed worthy enough to hold down the fort while Nestea was away.

Life, despite advancing in 1st place is driven insane upon getting too close to Nestea's aura, thus ending his run and career. Zergbong knowing his place promptly exits the booth to make way for the great one. Mr.Chae moves to object, but quickly realizes you never raise your voice to Nestea and quietly slumps back down. JYP despite being astronomically ahead, is quickly dispatched while Supernova, realizing it's pointless, forfeits. All is right with the world again.

fuck all of ya. Artosis has my back :D

H: DRG, Bomber
DRG's slump is exaggerated and he has only 1 matchup to prepare for. None of the terrans strike me as the clear best for tvt.....guess I'll believe in Bomber (risky risky).
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
September 01 2012 09:24 GMT
#224
Lol, gl Mana. Looks like he'll have to practice PvT.
benDover!
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Romania19 Posts
September 01 2012 09:25 GMT
#225
Will MaNa have enough mana to defeat one of those players?
To be or to BEEhhhEEEE!
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
September 01 2012 09:26 GMT
#226
i came, i saw, i came.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
September 01 2012 09:26 GMT
#227
Naniwa's got a great chance of taking first in his group. Not so sure about Mana though. At least he only has to practice one match-up?

Looking for Taeja to win the whole thing this season.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
September 01 2012 09:28 GMT
#228
This is really one of the most stacked seasons ever. While everyone keeps saying Group C is the group of death, really almost every group is full with people who could easily make it out.

This will be a season where if you are 4th in your group it doesn't really mean you are bad.
Dyrus | Vooby | Balls | Meteos | WildTurtle | Bjergsen | Cop | sexPeke | Xpecial | Aphromoo | Scarra |
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
September 01 2012 09:28 GMT
#229
On September 01 2012 16:01 forsooth wrote:
Groups E and H, what the fuck. It's like an anti-top Terran conspiracy.

I know right!?! There's not a single group that has more than two zergs/protoss, but somehow we have TWO groups with three terrans. How is this possible!?!
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
September 01 2012 09:29 GMT
#230
Group E of Death????!?

MMA on a slump, Mana will never beat either Taeja or Mvp. Easy group for Taeja, prolly Mvp 2nd.

Group C: HOLY SHIT
Chicken gank op
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
September 01 2012 09:30 GMT
#231
Gogogogogo Suhosin !

Rub it in all of their faces :D

I'm not that worried for Mana. It's his best matchup, it's their worst matchup, he only has to practice one matchup - he can do it
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
September 01 2012 09:31 GMT
#232
LOLOLOLOL GL MANA
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
September 01 2012 09:32 GMT
#233
GO GO MANA :D
UF fight!
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 01 2012 09:33 GMT
#234
Group E not too bad for mana. Mvp and MMA aren't all that great in TvP and it's Taeja's worst matchup. Contrary to how it appears it's a really lucky group for mana.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
GoonFFS
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark323 Posts
September 01 2012 09:33 GMT
#235
dem groups :| gonna be sick
http://konvictgaming.com/ -> @KrugerFFS
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 09:34:32
September 01 2012 09:34 GMT
#236
On September 01 2012 18:29 Belha wrote:
Group E of Death????!?

MMA on a slump, Mana will never beat either Taeja or Mvp. Easy group for Taeja, prolly Mvp 2nd.

Group C: HOLY SHIT

MC good, JD average at this point, Curious average, MKP slumping... group C? Look at E or A
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
September 01 2012 09:35 GMT
#237
Holy shit Mvp, how did you manage to get yourself in that group?
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
September 01 2012 09:36 GMT
#238
On September 01 2012 18:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
meh guess I'll do one too

+ Show Spoiler +
A: Seed, Parting

If Line gets out I'll swallow a sword. Hopefully it kills me as I don't want to live in a world where this guy is in the ro16. Leenock has gotten better at ZvP but still seems to rely on somewhat gimmicky play in the mu, not entirely convinced in him yet against protoss which is a shame because he's almost always fun to watch.

B: Symbol, herO

Haven't heard from Symbol in a little while and last time his momentum seemed to have stopped dead in its tracks as he got beat in gsl, osl, wcs, and wcg. But, so what? Prior to that he looked like a clear champion-class player and not since Nestea's glorious days have I been captivated by a Zerg so much. His mechanics are good, his understanding of Zerg is brilliant, he uses the full Zerg arsenal unlike any other Zerg these days, and he has an entire team of good Zergs to bounce ideas off of. You'd be a fool to write him off.

Also, herO is just a baller.

C: MC, Jaedong

MC is in great form right now and his PvZ is still likely the best out there. Jaedong is a bit of a reach but totally capable of making it, he'll have his work cut out for him though as MKP is still deadly and Curious has one of the best ZvZ in Korea.

D: Genius, Byun

3 gsl players with their ups and downs of mediocre and amazing + a kespa player that I'm not entirely comfortable with yet. Shot in the dark picks...

E: Taeja, MVP
Can this fucking group be any better? MMA vs MVP rematch..AGAIN and Mana from out of nowhere. Taeja has looked the best out of everyone recently, and despite MMA destroying MVP in their last encounters, I feel like this will be one where MMA finally loses.

F: Squirtle, Naniwa
Squirtle is just all around good, and seems to be the best pvp out there. Sniper is frankly more likely to come in 2nd...BUT Naniwa is absolutely capable and he's made ro8 twice now so I feel like taking another reach.

G: Nestea, Zergbong

Okay, so...Zergbong plays and totally fucks everything up with terrible play. But just as he's about to lose to JYP the real Nestea appears after months of absence. As it turns out Nestea was away on business in a distant galaxy, but before leaving
poured all his weakness into one being. Despite being an existence of pure fail, Zergbong was still of Nestea's essence and thus was deemed worthy enough to hold down the fort while Nestea was away.

Life, despite advancing in 1st place is driven insane upon getting too close to Nestea's aura, thus ending his run and career. Zergbong knowing his place promptly exits the booth to make way for the great one. Mr.Chae moves to object, but quickly realizes you never raise your voice to Nestea and quietly slumps back down. JYP despite being astronomically ahead, is quickly dispatched while Supernova, realizing it's pointless, forfeits. All is right with the world again.

fuck all of ya. Artosis has my back :D

H: DRG, Bomber
DRG's slump is exaggerated and he has only 1 matchup to prepare for. None of the terrans strike me as the clear best for tvt.....guess I'll believe in Bomber (risky risky).


I think you may be confusing the spelling of "our" Liquid HerO with the CJ Entus herO?
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 01 2012 09:36 GMT
#239
This season is stacked like crazy, can't wait to see the games.
Moderatorlickypiddy
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 09:40:50
September 01 2012 09:38 GMT
#240
On September 01 2012 18:36 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 18:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
meh guess I'll do one too

+ Show Spoiler +
A: Seed, Parting

If Line gets out I'll swallow a sword. Hopefully it kills me as I don't want to live in a world where this guy is in the ro16. Leenock has gotten better at ZvP but still seems to rely on somewhat gimmicky play in the mu, not entirely convinced in him yet against protoss which is a shame because he's almost always fun to watch.

B: Symbol, herO

Haven't heard from Symbol in a little while and last time his momentum seemed to have stopped dead in its tracks as he got beat in gsl, osl, wcs, and wcg. But, so what? Prior to that he looked like a clear champion-class player and not since Nestea's glorious days have I been captivated by a Zerg so much. His mechanics are good, his understanding of Zerg is brilliant, he uses the full Zerg arsenal unlike any other Zerg these days, and he has an entire team of good Zergs to bounce ideas off of. You'd be a fool to write him off.

Also, herO is just a baller.

C: MC, Jaedong

MC is in great form right now and his PvZ is still likely the best out there. Jaedong is a bit of a reach but totally capable of making it, he'll have his work cut out for him though as MKP is still deadly and Curious has one of the best ZvZ in Korea.

D: Genius, Byun

3 gsl players with their ups and downs of mediocre and amazing + a kespa player that I'm not entirely comfortable with yet. Shot in the dark picks...

E: Taeja, MVP
Can this fucking group be any better? MMA vs MVP rematch..AGAIN and Mana from out of nowhere. Taeja has looked the best out of everyone recently, and despite MMA destroying MVP in their last encounters, I feel like this will be one where MMA finally loses.

F: Squirtle, Naniwa
Squirtle is just all around good, and seems to be the best pvp out there. Sniper is frankly more likely to come in 2nd...BUT Naniwa is absolutely capable and he's made ro8 twice now so I feel like taking another reach.

G: Nestea, Zergbong

Okay, so...Zergbong plays and totally fucks everything up with terrible play. But just as he's about to lose to JYP the real Nestea appears after months of absence. As it turns out Nestea was away on business in a distant galaxy, but before leaving
poured all his weakness into one being. Despite being an existence of pure fail, Zergbong was still of Nestea's essence and thus was deemed worthy enough to hold down the fort while Nestea was away.

Life, despite advancing in 1st place is driven insane upon getting too close to Nestea's aura, thus ending his run and career. Zergbong knowing his place promptly exits the booth to make way for the great one. Mr.Chae moves to object, but quickly realizes you never raise your voice to Nestea and quietly slumps back down. JYP despite being astronomically ahead, is quickly dispatched while Supernova, realizing it's pointless, forfeits. All is right with the world again.

fuck all of ya. Artosis has my back :D

H: DRG, Bomber
DRG's slump is exaggerated and he has only 1 matchup to prepare for. None of the terrans strike me as the clear best for tvt.....guess I'll believe in Bomber (risky risky).


I think you may be confusing the spelling of "our" Liquid HerO with the CJ Entus herO?


No not at all. Just a bad habit of not capitalizing the first letter of his name, yet always remembering the O. It just stands out enough to me to always remember it.

Kind of forgot there's two of them in sc2 now as well, lol...
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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