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[Interview] 2012 GSL S3 CodeS Finals

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storywriter
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia528 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 14:37:59
July 27 2012 14:32 GMT
#1
LG-IMSeed

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Your thoughts on taking down MC and becoming the new champion?

I am ecstatic about today's victory. I was happy to be playing against SK and MC with whom we have a partnership and I'm sorry I had to take him down but this really was the best way for it to happen.

You won 4:1 but was this expected?

I thought it'd be 4:2 or 4:3 either way. However, the first map was one which could give you a lot of momentum with a win so that must have made it easier for me to take the series.

You used the same strategy in the first two sets

In Set 1, I had different strategies ready for each of the spawn spots and it happened to be close by air positions. In Set 2, I was planning to go for a warp prism rush if I saw my opponent getting greedy so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy.

In Set 4, you lost to MC's warp gate rush

I knew my opponent was going for such a strategy but it came much earlier than I expected. I couldn't hold it because it was a 10 gate build instead of 12.

MC is a solid opponent so how did you prepare for him?

I'm sorry to MC for saying this but I spent the least amount of time on this match out of this entire season. In all the other matches, I made a lot of notes and analysed countless VODs but MC has such diverse play that this was difficult. So rather than the match itself, I focused more on taking care of my condition and maintaining the right mindset.

It was the first outdoor match so how did it feel?

Other finalists told me that I should take care of my nerves before anything else. However, I'm not one to get nervous easily so that wasn't a problem.

LG-IM now has a champion of each race

Before the finals, I didn't pay much attention to this. However, once I had actually won and stood alongside Nestea and MVP, the realisation hit me. I'm extra happy about the fact that our team won the GSL twice in a row since LG Electronics started sponsoring us.

Jeong, Woo Seong handed out the prize so how did that feel?

I feel that it's common courtesy to face someone in the eyes when you talk to them but in this case, he was so good looking that it was a bit intimidating. I'm so happy to have had the chance to talk to Mr Jeong and shake his hand.

It took you one year since your début to win the championship so what do you think about that?

I recently read in a self development book that if you keep imagining yourself achieving a certain goal, you can reach that goal eventually. That's why I was able to convince myself that I would win sooner or later but this was certainly sooner than I expected. I guess the book wasn't lying.

Being the second Protoss GSL champion is a great achievement so how far do you think you can go?

It's still too early for me to be called the new Protoss President. I think if I win the next season and the one after that, I will be worthy of the title. All I've done so far is win the preliminary vote.

You won in a macro game in Set 5 so what was the secret?

The secret was to use a build well suited to the map. On the other hand, that also makes the strategy the most executed on that map. This means you have to consider the possibility of being countered and taking that risk was the key to victory.

Bisu is popular because of his handsome looks and progaming prowess and many compare yourself to him

I'm not even close to Bisu's level yet. Nal_ra, Bisu and Stork are legends that I still look up to and only when I have advanced my career a bit more can I be counted among them.

If you were to make a prediction for tomorrow's GSTL?

I've known Choya from Starcraft 1 days. I am also close to FXO players so I hope they take the win. FXO should win since they have Leenock who I think is the best Zerg ever. However, GSTL can be very unpredictable so it's hard to make the right call.

Now, you have WCG and WCS to look forward to

WCG is one of my main goals. I want to do well. WCS will be held in China so I want to do well there too. It's just that you can't be guaranteed to do well in both tournaments. I'll just try my best for every match.

Anything to add?

First of all, I want to thank the coach and his wife for coming all the way to Busan to support me. I also want to thank the Protoss trio: YongHwa, Ready and First. Lastly, I want to thank all the other team-mates who came to Hae Woon Dae to cheer me on.
I'm glad about the fact that my family was able to watch me win and want to ask my parents to wait a little bit longer because I'll soon have enough money to buy a house. Lastly, I want to wish Choya the best for GSTL and want to thank the sponsors: LG Electronics, SteelSeries, Googims, Nvidia and Coca Cola.

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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 14:35:40
July 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#2
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion
as1
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 27 2012 14:36 GMT
#3
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


indeed, just wait for YoDa if he's half as good as the hype proclaim it should be reather quick :D
Zest fanboy.
PradamadeR
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
July 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#4
Seed is just awesome !)))
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 27 2012 14:38 GMT
#5
Damn right, go Choya and FXO ;-)

Hehee nice interview! thx
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
July 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#6
I love this guy. He's polite yet has personality.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#7
props to seed for respecting BW legends
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Stormiii
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland239 Posts
July 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#8
Seed so good, i really hope that he goes overseas.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 27 2012 14:42 GMT
#9
So quick! Thanks storywriter. ^^

Seed such a baller, didn't predict this but incredibly happy. LG-IM wrecking GSL two seasons in a row.
Long live the King of Wings
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 27 2012 14:42 GMT
#10
seed
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 14:43:19
July 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#11
DAT SEED!!!

Thank you for the interview storywriter!!! <3 <3 <3

I want to wish Choya the best for GSTl and want to thank the sponsors: LG Electronics, SteelSeries, Googims, Nvidia and Coca Cola


You should capitalize all the letters so it's GSTL, GSTl looks odd

EDIT: nvm, u fixed it
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#12
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
July 27 2012 14:44 GMT
#13
Thanks for translating the interview! Happy that Seed was able to win the finals.
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
July 27 2012 14:48 GMT
#14
I like seed more and more after reading his interviews
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 27 2012 14:50 GMT
#15
Not the best series, but gratz on becoming the new zerg bonjwa second protoss champion!


...now who to cheer for tomorrow :s
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 27 2012 14:56 GMT
#16
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 27 2012 14:59 GMT
#17
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


IM is just too damn good. They're dominating the individual leagues by far, not just the GSL.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 27 2012 15:06 GMT
#18
Win a GSL, buy a house for your parents. Oh Korea
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 27 2012 15:13 GMT
#19
winner! congrats to seed, voted for him in every liquidbet lol (one of the reason im #12 now lol).
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 27 2012 15:16 GMT
#20
Not bad investment LG, 2 champions in rapid succssion and finals of IPL TAC3.
Glorious SEA doto
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
July 27 2012 15:17 GMT
#21
fuck ya seed

fuck ya IM

fuck ya liquibet

very well done, and i like seeds interviews, the way he responds is baller
IMMvp #1 :)
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 27 2012 15:18 GMT
#22
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.
Long live the King of Wings
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 27 2012 15:20 GMT
#23
Congratulations to seed and IM. Also tweeted congratulations to LG Korea, hope that helps.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 15:24:16
July 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#24
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.

If anything taking two gases is a sign that you're getting out enough tech to take and secure an expo. In PvP at least.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#25
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.

All answers were good but this one since that game was obviously a blind counter. Should just say that. It's a good cheese for that map though since blink builds aren't very common on it while early expansions are.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
July 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#26
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 27 2012 15:25 GMT
#27
On July 28 2012 00:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.

He had a proxy robo long before the nat went down in any case so still doesn't add up. Unless was gonna do a proxy colossus build if he didn't see an expo but that wouldn't make sense either.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 27 2012 15:26 GMT
#28
On July 28 2012 00:16 Fusilero wrote:
Not bad investment LG, 2 champions in rapid succssion and finals of IPL TAC3.

Yeah, 2 GSLs in a row, TAC3, good showing by Losira and First@MLG. LG should be pleased.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 15:26 GMT
#29
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 15:27 GMT
#30
On July 28 2012 00:26 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:16 Fusilero wrote:
Not bad investment LG, 2 champions in rapid succssion and finals of IPL TAC3.

Yeah, 2 GSLs in a row, TAC3, good showing by Losira and First@MLG. LG should be pleased.


And Yonghwa did well at HSC. With the way LosirA is playing, he definitely needs to get back to code S.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 27 2012 15:28 GMT
#31
On July 28 2012 00:25 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.

He had a proxy robo long before the nat went down in any case so still doesn't add up. Unless was gonna do a proxy colossus build if he didn't see an expo but that wouldn't make sense either.

He had the pylon down for the proxy but not the robo yet. After placing the pylon he sent that probe to scout what MC was doing and once he realised he was being greedy, he sent the probe back to drop the robo iirc.
Long live the King of Wings
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 27 2012 15:30 GMT
#32
On July 28 2012 00:23 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.


he did see the nexus go down i think, whether it was before he built the warp prism i dont know.

I just watched the game again and he didn't see anything except the 2 gas before cancelling his 2nd gas and building the proxy robo.

What I think he meant was that he saw that MC was going for a defensive, into expo build (I dunno, but DT expand builds seem to be pretty popular on that map) so maybe seeing the way MC was playing told him it was a build which was going towards an expo. Somehow... but it was still quite blind how he executed that build.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
GHSTxJet
Profile Joined January 2012
United States154 Posts
July 27 2012 15:32 GMT
#33
IMba
SuppySon
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
July 27 2012 15:32 GMT
#34
On July 27 2012 23:32 storywriter wrote:
LG-IMSeed
Jeong, Woo Seong handed out the prize so how did that feel?

I feel that it's common courtesy to face someone in the eyes when you talk to them but in this case, he was so good looking that it was a bit intimidating. I'm so happy to have had the chance to talk to Mr Jeong and shake his hand.


Hahahahaha, dem koreans man.
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 27 2012 15:34 GMT
#35
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
July 27 2012 15:35 GMT
#36
id say house in seoul must be atleast 300-400k, just guessing based on beijing.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
July 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#37
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


Much better. The black hair was so cool.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#38
On July 28 2012 00:34 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.


Maybe he was going for another proxy-Robo strategy? I believe that he placed down his gates after scouting the natural, so perhaps he didn't intend to go for a 4-gate WP.
Liquipedia"Expert"
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 15:44 GMT
#39
On July 28 2012 00:34 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.


And you know this because? Pro players can spot things that we cannot. 2 gases at certain timings might mean certain builds to pros. The fact that MC did expand and the fact that there was no reason for him to lie about it makes me lean towards his answer.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 27 2012 15:50 GMT
#40
Before the finals, I didn't pay much attention to this. However, once I had actually won and stood alongside Nestea and MVP, the realisation hit me. I'm extra happy about the fact that our team won the GSL twice in a row since LG Electronics started sponsoring us.


It better not be those screens that Mvp kept promoting in his interview about LG sponsoring IM. Did those screens give IM a Protoss champion?!
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 27 2012 15:51 GMT
#41
On July 28 2012 00:44 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 00:34 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:26 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 00:18 LimitSEA wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

But MC did take his natural. It was a DT expand. Having two gases doesn't mean no expansion, lmao.


This. The reason for early DTs is not to kill but rather to be able to defend your fast expand and pressure his. Your opponents needs 2 obs before he can even think about attacking and by that time, your natural should be established with defenses. And there is no reason for Seed to lie. The games were over... I guess he could be mindgaming his next Protoss opponent but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No, not "this", 2 gas can mean anything, but most definetely not the earliest of 'naturals', Seed had a proxy robo going way before he got a glimpse of anything, he was gonna do the build regardless of whatever MC did is my point.


And you know this because? Pro players can spot things that we cannot. 2 gases at certain timings might mean certain builds to pros. The fact that MC did expand and the fact that there was no reason for him to lie about it makes me lean towards his answer.


It was a standard gas timing, could mean literally anything. Seed probably had a good read on the build, but there's no way he "saw" that there was going to be an expansion. I'm guessing it's probably a translation thing.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 16:01:26
July 27 2012 15:58 GMT
#42
I know this because I paid attention to the game, unlike some of you trying to disprove me without any shred of proof to hold on to, "lmao" indeed.The first thing Seed did with his probe was to put that proxy pylon down, he also didn't check the gas timing at all, he went straight for the harass, maybe he was sure it was a good build for the spectrum of possible builds that he knew MC could probably use(which is saying a lot), but saying that it was a response to an expo is stretching it.

Also, at first I thought it was just a translation issue too and was just gonna ask if he really meant that, then I just went with it god knows why.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Barburas
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom247 Posts
July 27 2012 15:59 GMT
#43
I'm really pleased for Seed. He seems like such a nice, polite guy and (although obviously somewhat difficult to interpret across languages) comes off as really funny too (and in clever ways).

Loving his new look as well, especially against the black IM uniform.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 27 2012 16:08 GMT
#44
seed, such a good manner champion. happy for him and his family that he can buy a house with his winnings soon. I think any one who can purchase a house at his age is successful. I mean... you'll always have a roof over your head that way. Love that he gives much respect to BW legends, the BOSS-TOSS himself, and supports his friends over at FXO. Woo!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 27 2012 16:11 GMT
#45
Such a horrible Photo , sorry!
This is our town, scrub
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 16:26:19
July 27 2012 16:19 GMT
#46
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.

EDIT: Also TSL do not have a championship, Polt won GSL while on Prime. StarTale is the team missing, they have 1 GSL win from FruitDealer.

EDIT#2: Nevermind, forgot that FruitDealer was on TSL when he won.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 16:20 GMT
#47
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 16:26:05
July 27 2012 16:23 GMT
#48
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.

EDIT: Also TSL do not have a championship, Polt won GSL while on Prime. StarTale is the team missing, they have 1 GSL win from FruitDealer.

Fruitdealer is the GSL champion for TSL, not for startale.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
July 27 2012 16:24 GMT
#49
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
July 27 2012 16:25 GMT
#50
On July 28 2012 01:23 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.

EDIT: Also TSL do not have a championship, Polt won GSL while on Prime. StarTale is the team missing, they have 1 GSL win from FruitDealer.

Fruitdealer is the GSL champion for TSL, not for startale.


Ah, forgot, I was under the impression he joined StarTale before TSL for some reason, my mistake.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
Feridan
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark33 Posts
July 27 2012 16:45 GMT
#51
Loved the replay after game one, stuff like that warp prism micro gets missed so easily.

Hopefully HotS is out before the next PvP finals though!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 16:46:55
July 27 2012 16:46 GMT
#52
nvm wrong thread :s
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
July 27 2012 16:53 GMT
#53
On July 27 2012 23:56 IshinShishi wrote:
"so as soon as I saw MC take his natural, I executed that strategy." What?MC didn't take his natural, he had double gas up, Seed trying to frame his play as reactive when it was very far from that is ironic, don't take me wrong though, even if it was just gamble after gamble, he played to win.

umm are u thinking of game 1?
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 27 2012 16:53 GMT
#54
Thanks Sw!!!
LG-IMSeed:FXO should win since they have Leenock who I think is the best Zerg ever.
Wow, that's a strong statement. Someone else said something similar (in WCS winner interviews or something? don't remember) so Leenock must be even better in practice than he is already in public. Good to see, he always was a talent.
Get off my lawn, young punks
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 27 2012 16:53 GMT
#55
Tbh, Seed shoulv'de dyed his eyebrows too :s Anyway, awesome finals and well done by Seed! Been a fan of him since day #1 he appeared on GSTL. Even chatted with lots of twitter, nice guy and really cares about his fans. You all should tweet him stuff :p
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
July 27 2012 16:54 GMT
#56
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 27 2012 16:54 GMT
#57
I liked his speech that he gave he did this for gaming and not like most for money, felt like some sort of burn also towards MC standing there. But I don't know if it was that or just generally speaking!

Congratulations Seed!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 27 2012 16:56 GMT
#58
IM won over half of the gsl code s coool! LG must be glad sponsors such a team.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 27 2012 17:01 GMT
#59
FXO should win since they have Leenock who I think is the best Zerg ever.


interesting opinion by seed
Writer
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 27 2012 17:09 GMT
#60
On July 28 2012 01:54 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.

Sorry man, but imo Blizzard Cup was not a full tournament and shouldn't be counted as a real GSL win...
I know the definitions get kinda shady, that's why I also think special events should generally not be counted, only regular seasons (meaning Polt is not GSL champion and MVP having "only" three championships). Just my opinion of course, not saying MMA or Polt don't deserve it or anything.
Get off my lawn, young punks
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
July 27 2012 17:13 GMT
#61
On July 28 2012 02:09 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:54 cablesc wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.

Sorry man, but imo Blizzard Cup was not a full tournament and shouldn't be counted as a real GSL win...
I know the definitions get kinda shady, that's why I also think special events should generally not be counted, only regular seasons (meaning Polt is not GSL champion and MVP having "only" three championships). Just my opinion of course, not saying MMA or Polt don't deserve it or anything.


Well that can be your opinion but clearly Gom and the Korean media considers MMA a two time GSL champion and MVP a four time GSL champion. They have been referred to as such countless times.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 27 2012 17:16 GMT
#62
On July 28 2012 02:09 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:54 cablesc wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.

Sorry man, but imo Blizzard Cup was not a full tournament and shouldn't be counted as a real GSL win...
I know the definitions get kinda shady, that's why I also think special events should generally not be counted, only regular seasons (meaning Polt is not GSL champion and MVP having "only" three championships). Just my opinion of course, not saying MMA or Polt don't deserve it or anything.



Sorry buddy. There is a difference between gsl champion and code s champion. Any win in a tourny sponsored by gom is a gsl victory. You're referring to code s champion.
The Notorious Winkles
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 27 2012 17:18 GMT
#63
Congratulations Seed!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 27 2012 17:27 GMT
#64
On July 28 2012 02:16 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 02:09 ACrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:54 cablesc wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.

Sorry man, but imo Blizzard Cup was not a full tournament and shouldn't be counted as a real GSL win...
I know the definitions get kinda shady, that's why I also think special events should generally not be counted, only regular seasons (meaning Polt is not GSL champion and MVP having "only" three championships). Just my opinion of course, not saying MMA or Polt don't deserve it or anything.



Sorry buddy. There is a difference between gsl champion and code s champion. Any win in a tourny sponsored by gom is a gsl victory. You're referring to code s champion.

What about the CrossAction Challenges on Mondays? It's a tourney (ok, only 4 persons, but still) and is sponsored by GSL, would that make Line or the Kespa Zerg whose name I forgot a GSL champion? Of course not, but the step from this to the Blizzard Cup (handful of people semi-arbitrarily invited) is not very huge, and all I'm saying is that the definition you mentioned is a bit wonky. In the end it is up to GOM of course who should be allowed to style himself a GSL champion.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 27 2012 17:44 GMT
#65
Such an awesome player, I hope he won't be someone that wins the GSL and then fall off the radar.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
July 27 2012 17:53 GMT
#66
1. Seed calls Leenock the best Zerg ever.
2. NesTea beats up Seed at the IM house. xD
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 27 2012 18:05 GMT
#67
lol knew seed would win. I can't remember the last time MC played a pvp in a bo5/7 series and actually won. Grats to seed!
When I think of something else, something will go here
.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 19:00:09
July 27 2012 18:59 GMT
#68
What is the correlation as to why everyone thinks Leenock is the best zerg? Is he a beast in practice or am I missing something? (especially since Seed didnt say Nestea)

Good interview as well. I am happy for him.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 27 2012 21:36 GMT
#69
On July 28 2012 03:59 .Wraath wrote:
What is the correlation as to why everyone thinks Leenock is the best zerg? Is he a beast in practice or am I missing something? (especially since Seed didnt say Nestea)

Good interview as well. I am happy for him.


probably a beast online/ladder/practice
Zest fanboy.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 27 2012 22:11 GMT
#70
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


As mentioned Gom and the Korean eSports media consider Blizzard Cup as a full event/championship. And it's not hard to see why when you consider the qualification system they had for it (and especially when you compare it to the qualification for GSL World Championship).
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
July 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#71
@LGIMSeed
thanks to the fans!! I'm sorry today's games weren't that fun ^^.. I really wanted to make them fun in some way.. But things didn't work out as I wanted TT~ Thanks for the support ! I'll see you next season~~^^^

There were a lot of motherships and carriers in practice TT ..


Poor guy just won a GSL and he's apologizing for PvP. Goddamn Blizzard.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 02:51 GMT
#72
gg gratz seed!
thanks storywriter!!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 28 2012 03:00 GMT
#73
There were a lot of motherships and carriers in practice TT ..


We need IM practice VODs NOW!!!

- Nestea says he plays a lot faster in practice
- MVP loses a lot
- Yoda is the best player
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
July 28 2012 03:02 GMT
#74
Go Seed! But sad;y next season wil be taken by Mvp! =))
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 28 2012 03:03 GMT
#75
On July 28 2012 03:59 .Wraath wrote:
What is the correlation as to why everyone thinks Leenock is the best zerg? Is he a beast in practice or am I missing something? (especially since Seed didnt say Nestea)

Good interview as well. I am happy for him.


Well, Seed was also trying to hype up FXO with his response.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 28 2012 03:04 GMT
#76
On July 28 2012 12:02 Ace1123 wrote:
Go Seed! But sad;y next season wil be taken by Mvp! =))


Nah, Yoda will be unleashed next season!!!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 28 2012 03:08 GMT
#77
Uhh? Seed forgot their new sponsor, Intel? I saw Intel on their new shirts in the Finals.
Someone call down the Thunder?
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
July 28 2012 03:18 GMT
#78
On July 28 2012 02:27 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 02:16 rysecake wrote:
On July 28 2012 02:09 ACrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:54 cablesc wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:24 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:20 vthree wrote:
On July 28 2012 01:19 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:43 vthree wrote:
On July 27 2012 23:34 skyflyfish wrote:
i like the black hair better
and damn Team IM, GomTV should give a special award if they get another gsl champion


TSL - 1
Prime - 1
NSHS - 1
MVP - 1
oGs - 2
Slayers - 2

Total is 8 which IM also just reached... Crazy...


Actually SlayerS have 1, the Blizzard Cup is denoted as a special event in the GSL, alongside the AoLs and King of Kong Tournament.

So IM have 8 compared with the 7 of all other teams combined.


Really? I thought MMA got 2 GSL pins?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League

Not sure if the pins count for anything, but Blizzard Cup is a separate event according to the Wiki. Also that would make sense considering it only consisted of 10 players and by comparison to the GSL it was a much easier feat to accomplish, even if the calibre of players was very high.

In total there have been 15 GSLs events, and IM has won 8 of them.


Bullshit. MMA has two GSL pins and Gom and Korean media has always referred to him as a two time winner. How the info is organized on liquipedia does not matter at all.

Sorry man, but imo Blizzard Cup was not a full tournament and shouldn't be counted as a real GSL win...
I know the definitions get kinda shady, that's why I also think special events should generally not be counted, only regular seasons (meaning Polt is not GSL champion and MVP having "only" three championships). Just my opinion of course, not saying MMA or Polt don't deserve it or anything.



Sorry buddy. There is a difference between gsl champion and code s champion. Any win in a tourny sponsored by gom is a gsl victory. You're referring to code s champion.

What about the CrossAction Challenges on Mondays? It's a tourney (ok, only 4 persons, but still) and is sponsored by GSL, would that make Line or the Kespa Zerg whose name I forgot a GSL champion? Of course not, but the step from this to the Blizzard Cup (handful of people semi-arbitrarily invited) is not very huge, and all I'm saying is that the definition you mentioned is a bit wonky. In the end it is up to GOM of course who should be allowed to style himself a GSL champion.


IIRC CrossAction is sponsored by gom, but not associated with gsl...

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On July 28 2012 09:11 Clefairy wrote:
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[i]thanks to the fans!! I'm sorry today's games weren't that fun ^^.. I really wanted to make them fun in some way.. But things didn't work out as I wanted TT~ Thanks for the suppohttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=71&topic_id=356216rt ! I'll see you next season~~^^^

There were a lot of motherships and carriers in practice TT ..


This is exactly why I love and respect this guy. Funny, smart, and polite. He can do some of the funniest ceremonies, and be really polite in other scenes. Great qualities as a person and a player. This interview shows how smart he plays the game.

But yet again, I love MC's abrasive/arrogant demeanor. Character just brings so much to the game than just winning.
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