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MMA demoted to B-Team, wants to join foreign team? - Page 96

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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
July 23 2012 06:12 GMT
#1901
lol you guys..
KTY
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 17:25:40
July 23 2012 17:23 GMT
#1902
Did no one effing read my long ass post?

Pro tip: you need to start with what you want people to remember. Quite a few researches show nobody reads and/or remembers the end of the article

On the other hand if you start with "MMA never assaulted anybody, repeat, MMA never assaulted anybody" it's gonna have the same effect as "B-3 Bombers do not exist"...
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
July 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1903
" I like horsing around with MMA hyung and Crank but neither are there at the team house so it's really dull and boring nowadays"
From SlayerS_Mya interview.... Interesting....
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
July 23 2012 17:39 GMT
#1904
Ever since Coach Ryu went to Woongjin, i knew something is definitely wrong with team. I mean there were no official statement from Slayers regarding him, did he left for other opportunities or did he had a dispute with jessica before went to Woongjin!? I'm sure most of you guys were shocked as well when we heard Woongjin suddenly hired him....
People.....People never change
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 17:46:51
July 23 2012 17:45 GMT
#1905
On July 23 2012 15:02 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 13:13 lisward wrote:
On July 23 2012 13:10 AxelTVx wrote:
omg... MMA, why? Hopefully it's not assault T_T

Maybe someone shit talked him and he lost his temper?

Did no one effing read my long ass post?

They read it... the first line that is :D It shouldn't surprise you really, the whole thread in filled with the same crude jokes and speculation that was being made on page 1.

edit: I read your post anyway, thanks for the update I hadn't actually heard the rumours until I read your post but its nice to know that they're baseless.
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
July 23 2012 18:15 GMT
#1906
On July 23 2012 15:02 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 13:13 lisward wrote:
On July 23 2012 13:10 AxelTVx wrote:
omg... MMA, why? Hopefully it's not assault T_T

Maybe someone shit talked him and he lost his temper?

Did no one effing read my long ass post?


assault them pls.
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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 21:15:02
July 23 2012 21:10 GMT
#1907
On July 23 2012 15:02 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 13:13 lisward wrote:
On July 23 2012 13:10 AxelTVx wrote:
omg... MMA, why? Hopefully it's not assault T_T

Maybe someone shit talked him and he lost his temper?

Did no one effing read my long ass post?


I read your post and I thought it was very compassionate and thoughtful of you to try and defend MMA against much of this speculation.

I wish you were a SlayerS official however, because apparently they lack your empathy to see that they are smearing MMA by being so vague about the punishment. (Or perhaps they are aware of that effect)

If you give someone the harshest punishment, its only reasonable that many people will assume MMA must have done something horrible to warrant it. Since Slayers won't say anything, they are letting MMA's reputation hang in the wind.

I see very few possible cases where Slayers being transparent and direct are not the best course of action, and in most of those cases MMA should be in jail.

I'm still siding with MMA on this one until there is any evidence he did anything other than wanting to leave the team. To assume anything else is to make up events out of thin air, which I think is extremely unfair to MMA.



SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 23 2012 21:15 GMT
#1908
On July 24 2012 02:39 novamarine wrote:
Ever since Coach Ryu went to Woongjin, i knew something is definitely wrong with team. I mean there were no official statement from Slayers regarding him, did he left for other opportunities or did he had a dispute with jessica before went to Woongjin!? I'm sure most of you guys were shocked as well when we heard Woongjin suddenly hired him....


He left SlayerS first, apparently. Then he was picked up by Woongjin afterwards.
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 21:23:54
July 23 2012 21:23 GMT
#1909
On July 24 2012 02:32 stichtom wrote:
" I like horsing around with MMA hyung and Crank but neither are there at the team house so it's really dull and boring nowadays"
From SlayerS_Mya interview.... Interesting....


Hopefully they were just fucking around having fun and then it got out of hand in a moment of bad judgement and everything can be repaired =(

That interview gives me some hope.


On July 24 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 02:39 novamarine wrote:
Ever since Coach Ryu went to Woongjin, i knew something is definitely wrong with team. I mean there were no official statement from Slayers regarding him, did he left for other opportunities or did he had a dispute with jessica before went to Woongjin!? I'm sure most of you guys were shocked as well when we heard Woongjin suddenly hired him....


He left SlayerS first, apparently. Then he was picked up by Woongjin afterwards.


Source?
Life is too short to take it seriously.
SaintFrancis
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada46 Posts
July 23 2012 22:21 GMT
#1910
Liquid MMA
True happiness is found with God. God is true love. That's why Jesus changed my life.
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
July 23 2012 22:38 GMT
#1911
Well this thread is going nowhere.

I wonder what MMA would think of foreign fans if he read this.
fresh chops
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 23 2012 22:46 GMT
#1912
Has there been any updates about the situation?
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
MotherGoose
Profile Joined March 2011
66 Posts
July 23 2012 22:49 GMT
#1913
On July 24 2012 06:23 Greggle wrote:
Hopefully they were just fucking around having fun and then it got out of hand in a moment of bad judgement and everything can be repaired =(

That interview gives me some hope.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:39 novamarine wrote:
Ever since Coach Ryu went to Woongjin, i knew something is definitely wrong with team. I mean there were no official statement from Slayers regarding him, did he left for other opportunities or did he had a dispute with jessica before went to Woongjin!? I'm sure most of you guys were shocked as well when we heard Woongjin suddenly hired him....


He left SlayerS first, apparently. Then he was picked up by Woongjin afterwards.


Source?


It has already been discussed along with a myriad of theories.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353505&currentpage=65#1287

It's safe to say that no party ever wanted it to come to this; I don't think we will get a formal explanation (nor do I believe are we entitled to one). With all the silence, it appears to me an internal issue; if it were some dispute - I'm sure no one wants their dirty laundry aired to the world.

Another fact is many of those players are quite young; the management have a have a duty of care as guardians of them. There are team rules in place to put order in place. From all the videos and tours of the SlayerS house; it seems very much a family/home environment. I'm sure there is no perfect family in this world, and there will be some times of disagreement, anxiety and stress.

At the GSTL on the 13th July (3 days prior to so called incident), MMA was listed as the Captain (in Alicia's absence) showing he was still respected. The players have enormous pressures on them to succeed, some flying here and there for matches; Cella constantly says they stay up training and practicing especially for GSTL. The team house environment and atmosphere must be very difficult at this time preparing for the many different events.

We should be encouraging all parties involved - it's not the players that are hurting, but also those that made the decision, which was most likely not an easy one; but one that had to be made. I look forward to the day this is all gone, and everyone including the fans are happy. I for one, want to see MMA step out in the SlayerS team colours, with the game score at 4-4 to show us great games once again...
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
July 23 2012 22:51 GMT
#1914
Best discussion of the issue took place on last week's Inside the Game. If you want insight into how Korean pro houses actually operate and punish players, from someone who lived in one (Greg "IdrA" Fields), then watch the VOD.
"En taro adun, Executor."
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
July 23 2012 23:37 GMT
#1915
Why is this thread still open? Every time I look at it each day I think that there's an update on the situation -- but there isn't. Nothing productive is coming out of it -- let the thread either be reopened or a new thread be created if more information comes out
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 23 2012 23:46 GMT
#1916
You guys know that Korean progaming teams would resort to even use physical force upon their players if they don't perform optimally right?
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MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
July 24 2012 00:25 GMT
#1917
Yeah this thread isn't going anywhere. There just isn't any new info. We probably won't get any new info for awhile, and having read most of this thread I feel that we really don't deserve any.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
July 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#1918
are they going to update this?
Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
July 24 2012 01:35 GMT
#1919
On July 24 2012 07:49 MotherGoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 06:23 Greggle wrote:
Hopefully they were just fucking around having fun and then it got out of hand in a moment of bad judgement and everything can be repaired =(

That interview gives me some hope.

On July 24 2012 06:15 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 24 2012 02:39 novamarine wrote:
Ever since Coach Ryu went to Woongjin, i knew something is definitely wrong with team. I mean there were no official statement from Slayers regarding him, did he left for other opportunities or did he had a dispute with jessica before went to Woongjin!? I'm sure most of you guys were shocked as well when we heard Woongjin suddenly hired him....


He left SlayerS first, apparently. Then he was picked up by Woongjin afterwards.


Source?


It has already been discussed along with a myriad of theories.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353505&currentpage=65#1287

It's safe to say that no party ever wanted it to come to this; I don't think we will get a formal explanation (nor do I believe are we entitled to one). With all the silence, it appears to me an internal issue; if it were some dispute - I'm sure no one wants their dirty laundry aired to the world.

Another fact is many of those players are quite young; the management have a have a duty of care as guardians of them. There are team rules in place to put order in place. From all the videos and tours of the SlayerS house; it seems very much a family/home environment. I'm sure there is no perfect family in this world, and there will be some times of disagreement, anxiety and stress.

At the GSTL on the 13th July (3 days prior to so called incident), MMA was listed as the Captain (in Alicia's absence) showing he was still respected. The players have enormous pressures on them to succeed, some flying here and there for matches; Cella constantly says they stay up training and practicing especially for GSTL. The team house environment and atmosphere must be very difficult at this time preparing for the many different events.

We should be encouraging all parties involved - it's not the players that are hurting, but also those that made the decision, which was most likely not an easy one; but one that had to be made. I look forward to the day this is all gone, and everyone including the fans are happy. I for one, want to see MMA step out in the SlayerS team colours, with the game score at 4-4 to show us great games once again...


That isn't really a source, that's some guy talking about a source. I've never actually seen a translated interview for this.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 02:02:23
July 24 2012 01:49 GMT
#1920
On July 24 2012 07:51 Chriscras wrote:
Best discussion of the issue took place on last week's Inside the Game. If you want insight into how Korean pro houses actually operate and punish players, from someone who lived in one (Greg "IdrA" Fields), then watch the VOD.


found it

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MMA discussion starts at the hour mark
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