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Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
July 13 2012 07:57 GMT
#141
On July 13 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 16:30 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 14:44 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:31 GenesisX wrote:

I was so ahead that I thought I could make any unit and still win so chose hydras. However, it seems hydras are still the symbol of defeat. From now on, unless it’s a special situation, I will never use hydras.


LOL pretty much this... good thing he won


TBH he said the EXACT thing about ultralisks awhile back. And now they're one of the most used units in that matchup.


Sadly hydra are the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.
Tell me what scenario is hydra good against in ZvT and ZvP(only against double stargate)
They have degraded from being the iconic unit of zerg in BW to the worst unit in zerg arsenal.

Ultras are good if they are supported well(banes/infestor).
Although the A.I pathing for the Ultras still suck and the unit is too big and clunky.


Hellions were called useless and terrible against everything awhile back to.

Just saying.


Hellions are useful now after 2 years in the terran arsenal is it not?

Hydras after 2 years is still the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.

Just saying.

the problem is that Hydras were useful 2 years ago, but then players got better and now they are worthless exept in some ZvZ's and some very very narrow ZvP timings.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 08:00:07
July 13 2012 07:59 GMT
#142
On July 13 2012 16:57 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:30 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 14:44 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:31 GenesisX wrote:

I was so ahead that I thought I could make any unit and still win so chose hydras. However, it seems hydras are still the symbol of defeat. From now on, unless it’s a special situation, I will never use hydras.


LOL pretty much this... good thing he won


TBH he said the EXACT thing about ultralisks awhile back. And now they're one of the most used units in that matchup.


Sadly hydra are the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.
Tell me what scenario is hydra good against in ZvT and ZvP(only against double stargate)
They have degraded from being the iconic unit of zerg in BW to the worst unit in zerg arsenal.

Ultras are good if they are supported well(banes/infestor).
Although the A.I pathing for the Ultras still suck and the unit is too big and clunky.


Hellions were called useless and terrible against everything awhile back to.

Just saying.


Hellions are useful now after 2 years in the terran arsenal is it not?

Hydras after 2 years is still the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.

Just saying.

the problem is that Hydras were useful 2 years ago, but then players got better and now they are worthless exept in some ZvZ's and some very very narrow ZvP timings.


Sounds similar to Reapers.
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
July 13 2012 08:11 GMT
#143
Is Terran okay against Zerg now?

I think we’re over it. In late game, battlecruisers supported by ravens can beat Zerg. The solution has been found.


Interesting comment. For some context, here's what Byun said about Terran a year ago:

- You will be facing another terran in the round of 8?
I don’t want to face either of them. One of them is the code A champion, and the other is the Supertournament champion, I don’t want to deal with either of them. I hate terrans.

- Why do you not like facing terrans?
Terran is OP.

- But you are terran?
That is why I switched races.


Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243513

Thanks for the translations!
No relation to Monsieur J.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 13 2012 08:21 GMT
#144
On July 13 2012 17:11 Lord_J wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is Terran okay against Zerg now?

I think we’re over it. In late game, battlecruisers supported by ravens can beat Zerg. The solution has been found.


Interesting comment. For some context, here's what Byun said about Terran a year ago:

Show nested quote +
- You will be facing another terran in the round of 8?
I don’t want to face either of them. One of them is the code A champion, and the other is the Supertournament champion, I don’t want to deal with either of them. I hate terrans.

- Why do you not like facing terrans?
Terran is OP.

- But you are terran?
That is why I switched races.


Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243513

Thanks for the translations!

ahahaha
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AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 08:27:46
July 13 2012 08:27 GMT
#145
On July 13 2012 16:59 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 16:57 Hardigan wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:30 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 14:44 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:31 GenesisX wrote:

I was so ahead that I thought I could make any unit and still win so chose hydras. However, it seems hydras are still the symbol of defeat. From now on, unless it’s a special situation, I will never use hydras.


LOL pretty much this... good thing he won


TBH he said the EXACT thing about ultralisks awhile back. And now they're one of the most used units in that matchup.


Sadly hydra are the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.
Tell me what scenario is hydra good against in ZvT and ZvP(only against double stargate)
They have degraded from being the iconic unit of zerg in BW to the worst unit in zerg arsenal.

Ultras are good if they are supported well(banes/infestor).
Although the A.I pathing for the Ultras still suck and the unit is too big and clunky.


Hellions were called useless and terrible against everything awhile back to.

Just saying.


Hellions are useful now after 2 years in the terran arsenal is it not?

Hydras after 2 years is still the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.

Just saying.

the problem is that Hydras were useful 2 years ago, but then players got better and now they are worthless exept in some ZvZ's and some very very narrow ZvP timings.


Sounds similar to Reapers.


Reapers got nerfed. Hydras were just countered
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
July 13 2012 08:29 GMT
#146
Is Terran okay against Zerg now?

I think we’re over it. In late game, battlecruisers supported by ravens can beat Zerg. The solution has been found.


Well then.

SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
July 13 2012 08:38 GMT
#147
On July 13 2012 17:29 GwSC wrote:
Is Terran okay against Zerg now?

I think we’re over it. In late game, battlecruisers supported by ravens can beat Zerg. The solution has been found.


Well then.



All we need now is for someone to show us how to consistently and safely reach BC/raven. I hope Byun leads the way. Go Byun!
SometimesIworkout
Profile Joined June 2012
Cambodia75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 08:59:53
July 13 2012 08:47 GMT
#148
Byun: The coach usually buys Afghan Purple Cheong Sim Hwan OG Sour but today he bought the good stuff.
"my upper chest is weak" "you have no upper chest"
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 13 2012 08:55 GMT
#149
I didn't know about Annyeong
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
July 13 2012 08:57 GMT
#150
On July 13 2012 17:38 SnipedSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 17:29 GwSC wrote:
Is Terran okay against Zerg now?

I think we’re over it. In late game, battlecruisers supported by ravens can beat Zerg. The solution has been found.


Well then.



All we need now is for someone to show us how to consistently and safely reach BC/raven. I hope Byun leads the way. Go Byun!

Watch the GSTL game Sculp vs Symbol (NSHS vs TSL). It's a really good one, and Sculp shows some really good job at dealing with Zerg late game. Even better, he was behind before reaching the late game.
SometimesIworkout
Profile Joined June 2012
Cambodia75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 08:59:17
July 13 2012 08:58 GMT
#151
whoops clicked wrong button
"my upper chest is weak" "you have no upper chest"
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
July 13 2012 09:11 GMT
#152
thanks for the interview =P

@taefoxy
DougJDempsey
Profile Joined April 2010
747 Posts
July 13 2012 09:15 GMT
#153
On July 13 2012 16:30 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 16:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 14:44 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:31 GenesisX wrote:

I was so ahead that I thought I could make any unit and still win so chose hydras. However, it seems hydras are still the symbol of defeat. From now on, unless it’s a special situation, I will never use hydras.


LOL pretty much this... good thing he won


TBH he said the EXACT thing about ultralisks awhile back. And now they're one of the most used units in that matchup.


Sadly hydra are the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.
Tell me what scenario is hydra good against in ZvT and ZvP(only against double stargate)
They have degraded from being the iconic unit of zerg in BW to the worst unit in zerg arsenal.

Ultras are good if they are supported well(banes/infestor).
Although the A.I pathing for the Ultras still suck and the unit is too big and clunky.


Hellions were called useless and terrible against everything awhile back to.

Just saying.


people were complaining banelings cost too much at 25 gas and infestors were massive garbage back in beta where zerg had expected you to let them to 3 base 70 drones for free. after all these buffs to zerg blizz still hasnt realised the problem was the maps back then.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 13 2012 10:15 GMT
#154
On July 13 2012 16:30 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 16:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 14:44 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:31 GenesisX wrote:

I was so ahead that I thought I could make any unit and still win so chose hydras. However, it seems hydras are still the symbol of defeat. From now on, unless it’s a special situation, I will never use hydras.


LOL pretty much this... good thing he won


TBH he said the EXACT thing about ultralisks awhile back. And now they're one of the most used units in that matchup.


Sadly hydra are the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.
Tell me what scenario is hydra good against in ZvT and ZvP(only against double stargate)
They have degraded from being the iconic unit of zerg in BW to the worst unit in zerg arsenal.

Ultras are good if they are supported well(banes/infestor).
Although the A.I pathing for the Ultras still suck and the unit is too big and clunky.


Hellions were called useless and terrible against everything awhile back to.

Just saying.

Hellions had a time of dominance that they had to be nerfed.
Hydra's are the symbol of defeat.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 13 2012 13:15 GMT
#155
On July 13 2012 16:59 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 16:57 Hardigan wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:47 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:30 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 16:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On July 13 2012 14:44 Talack wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:31 GenesisX wrote:

I was so ahead that I thought I could make any unit and still win so chose hydras. However, it seems hydras are still the symbol of defeat. From now on, unless it’s a special situation, I will never use hydras.


LOL pretty much this... good thing he won


TBH he said the EXACT thing about ultralisks awhile back. And now they're one of the most used units in that matchup.


Sadly hydra are the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.
Tell me what scenario is hydra good against in ZvT and ZvP(only against double stargate)
They have degraded from being the iconic unit of zerg in BW to the worst unit in zerg arsenal.

Ultras are good if they are supported well(banes/infestor).
Although the A.I pathing for the Ultras still suck and the unit is too big and clunky.


Hellions were called useless and terrible against everything awhile back to.

Just saying.


Hellions are useful now after 2 years in the terran arsenal is it not?

Hydras after 2 years is still the worst unit in the zerg arsenal.

Just saying.

the problem is that Hydras were useful 2 years ago, but then players got better and now they are worthless exept in some ZvZ's and some very very narrow ZvP timings.


Sounds similar to Reapers.


reapers speed was nerfed. however hydra is exactly the same as it was.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
July 13 2012 17:11 GMT
#156
On July 12 2012 21:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
You seemed to be taking it easy today.

The coach usually buys cheap $5 ‘Cheong Sim Hwan’ (T/N: herbal medicine that calms you down) but today he bought the good stuff.

It's official, Byun's doing drugs


That's exactly what I thought.

I'm just picturing Byun and the rest of Prime just blazing together, and getting walked in on by the Gom folks. Suddenly, MKP breaks out his signature dance and an impromptu dance party begins. LOL
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 19:12:04
July 13 2012 19:11 GMT
#157
--- Nuked ---
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 14 2012 01:37 GMT
#158
Regarding the translator's note: I prefer the more liberal translations. Also, thank you.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 14 2012 02:27 GMT
#159
DRG and Byun advance, sigh, the two people that I didn't want to advance. so sad to hear about Annyeong, that came out of nowhere.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
cndaks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States95 Posts
July 14 2012 02:28 GMT
#160
why is he retiring?
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