• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:16
CEST 10:16
KST 17:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 712 users

MLG Arenas now free - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
619 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 31 Next All
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
June 23 2012 08:55 GMT
#201
finally i can watch arena
IM & EG supporter
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
June 23 2012 08:56 GMT
#202
It is really nice, even if it only for once event.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
June 23 2012 08:57 GMT
#203
Awesome! Good to hear of their success!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 23 2012 08:58 GMT
#204
On June 23 2012 17:48 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 17:38 seiferoth10 wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:09 Redox wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:05 DonKey_ wrote:
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees Sundance you are amazing!!

For doing what literally every one of his competitors does?

I am glad that their business model with the Arenas failed, but I am not going to praise them for it.

It was actually so successful that they could offset the costs of a few of them to make them free. Try again though.


Yeah. The company CEO said that on Twitter. It must be true.

you guys are misinterpreting the tweets. Sundance said they did very well, "crushed it", selling spring season passes which lead to more partner money. Its not that they made so much off the previous events they are doing these Arenas for free with that extra money. Its that they continue to show strong numbers and sales to their partners, opening up more sponsorships, which is why these Arenas will be free, because a sponsor has come up with the money. this is like how after the first PPV went so well they got an addition $11 million in VC.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
June 23 2012 08:59 GMT
#205
Yes! Looking forward to this :D
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
thunder54
Profile Joined March 2011
38 Posts
June 23 2012 09:02 GMT
#206
lol just tell it like it is were not morons it's just a crappy business model fail, trying to sell what everyone else is doing for free doesn't work buddy.

The it was so succesful and we made so much money that we decided not to do it again story is ridiculious, just be honest or say nothing, but trying to spin some bs like your doing something awesome for everybody and giving a gift to the community makes you look like a serious douche bag.
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
June 23 2012 09:07 GMT
#207
I am happy to hear that MLG is stabilizing, I was not against paying the 30 dollars. But not having to do so is nice.
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
June 23 2012 09:08 GMT
#208
You sure this is confirmed ? As these tweets were made by him drunk ?
LamaMitHut
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany187 Posts
June 23 2012 09:08 GMT
#209
the apes are throwing shit again...
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 23 2012 09:10 GMT
#210
On June 23 2012 17:58 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 17:48 Talin wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:38 seiferoth10 wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:09 Redox wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:05 DonKey_ wrote:
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees Sundance you are amazing!!

For doing what literally every one of his competitors does?

I am glad that their business model with the Arenas failed, but I am not going to praise them for it.

It was actually so successful that they could offset the costs of a few of them to make them free. Try again though.


Yeah. The company CEO said that on Twitter. It must be true.

you guys are misinterpreting the tweets. Sundance said they did very well, "crushed it", selling spring season passes which lead to more partner money. Its not that they made so much off the previous events they are doing these Arenas for free with that extra money. Its that they continue to show strong numbers and sales to their partners, opening up more sponsorships, which is why these Arenas will be free, because a sponsor has come up with the money. this is like how after the first PPV went so well they got an addition $11 million in VC.


I may be just a small girl and know little of such things, but wouldn't they keep the PPV and keep the new sponsor/partner money, if the numbers were so good and promising?

Secondly, even if the PPV was a failure, this is exactly the kind of story one would make up to make it look like they're doing something awesome rather than admitting failure. From what I gathered from 2GD/JP convo in Real Talk, MLG Arenas (specifically) were actually losing viewers consistently since the first one.
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States461 Posts
June 23 2012 09:10 GMT
#211
On June 23 2012 12:18 Weird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 12:14 Boblhead wrote:
Sundance finally realizes that you can run a free stream and still remain profitable

>Literally took him fucking 2+ years to realize this?


YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY ANGRY POSTS ABOUT GOOD NEWS

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY SC2 COMMUNITY!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY this is great news
How we will win in the period ahead.
Ramuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany238 Posts
June 23 2012 09:16 GMT
#212
A bit hypocritical as they said "ppv is the future, we cannot do without ppv, we need to have it"
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
June 23 2012 09:17 GMT
#213
Classic Sundance, screws up makes community angry, fixes it, is a hero. Trololololol
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 23 2012 09:17 GMT
#214
On June 23 2012 18:10 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 17:58 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:48 Talin wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:38 seiferoth10 wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:09 Redox wrote:
On June 23 2012 17:05 DonKey_ wrote:
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees Sundance you are amazing!!

For doing what literally every one of his competitors does?

I am glad that their business model with the Arenas failed, but I am not going to praise them for it.

It was actually so successful that they could offset the costs of a few of them to make them free. Try again though.


Yeah. The company CEO said that on Twitter. It must be true.

you guys are misinterpreting the tweets. Sundance said they did very well, "crushed it", selling spring season passes which lead to more partner money. Its not that they made so much off the previous events they are doing these Arenas for free with that extra money. Its that they continue to show strong numbers and sales to their partners, opening up more sponsorships, which is why these Arenas will be free, because a sponsor has come up with the money. this is like how after the first PPV went so well they got an addition $11 million in VC.


I may be just a small girl and know little of such things, but wouldn't they keep the PPV and keep the new sponsor/partner money, if the numbers were so good and promising?

Secondly, even if the PPV was a failure, this is exactly the kind of story one would make up to make it look like they're doing something awesome rather than admitting failure. From what I gathered from 2GD/JP convo in Real Talk, MLG Arenas (specifically) were actually losing viewers consistently since the first one.

Because whoever the company is that will be sponsoring the Arenas wouldn't sponsor it if it were PPV. Pretty simple. The sponsorship is more valuable in the freemium model.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 23 2012 09:22 GMT
#215
good, even tho my russian wont improve this arena t-t
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
June 23 2012 09:22 GMT
#216
Good move Sundance glad to hear MLG is very succesful so this can happen
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
BraneSC2
Profile Joined May 2010
United States123 Posts
June 23 2012 09:28 GMT
#217
This is not only great news for us, but it's great news for MLG. It really shows how fast the scene is advancing.
No fighting in the war room!
MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
June 23 2012 09:28 GMT
#218
Good news :D
@AbeggJip
Fatlord
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
June 23 2012 09:28 GMT
#219
Fail to charge, gomtv is so much better
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 09:29:30
June 23 2012 09:28 GMT
#220
aaa... i must say i am reaching the point now where i am really prepared to hand over hard cash for access to good games/streams. the problem in australia where i am right now is that internet is metered so i sort of have to pay twice. if i was back in japan i would pay without thinking but here, the economics of it are too stupid. what id like is for MLG to team up with an isp like iinet like Day9 does to provide limit-free access. Id even be prepared to pay a bit more for it.
Dance those ultras
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 277
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 12937
ggaemo 1380
Hyun 579
Larva 491
firebathero 462
Hyuk 327
Leta 132
Dewaltoss 78
Noble 73
sorry 62
[ Show more ]
Mong 48
sSak 36
ivOry 2
Dota 2
monkeys_forever733
XcaliburYe467
League of Legends
JimRising 543
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1089
Super Smash Bros
Westballz31
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor227
Other Games
summit1g8137
gofns2540
WinterStarcraft518
Fuzer 125
Mew2King88
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2531
UltimateBattle 164
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta54
• Dystopia_ 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1190
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 44m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5h 44m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
7h 44m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 2h
OSC
1d 15h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.