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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
ROOTRob
Profile Joined April 2012
United States34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 22:21:44
October 26 2012 21:52 GMT
#3501
http://drop.sc/268101

SeNoRCHaNG : Map hacker

Chat was hilarious

Funny, i end up winning the game

So cute :3

2 Gates Proxyed in my main base, and he trys to distract me from playing, by talking to me

We all know he hacks already, im just adding to his replay inventory
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 08:35:26
October 28 2012 08:33 GMT
#3502
Name: Bartar
Region: NA
League: Mid Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/268547

Just general "lucky" play by him over and over.
~16:30 - Pulls back SCVs/Vikings and sieges tanks to deal with a counter-attack he hasn't scouted
~25minutes - Blindly sieges up my expand at the bottom left natural
~25:30 - Sieges up tanks at perfect time to defend my counter-attack (although he does see me scan so he might just be reacting to that)
~35:45 - Sends Thors to exactly where my OC is without seeing it (probably just luck though but it's weird)
~38min - Sends hellions exactly position to see my hidden OC

Other than the first 2 things it could largely be contributed to lucky play, but it'd be nice to have a non-biased set of eyes look over and see what they think. He just always seemed to know exactly when and where to siege/unsiege/attack without scanning much at all.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
October 28 2012 14:48 GMT
#3503
Goodbye Zwei, you will be missed... Could you at least play Dota2 instead of LoL? :D
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
October 29 2012 21:31 GMT
#3504
Sad to see you go Zwei, you were doing such a good service with keeping this thread updated and active. I hope your journey into LoL serves you well.
Death comes in many forms
jafrito
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil5 Posts
October 30 2012 17:25 GMT
#3505
Oh, how can I report a map hack user now?

Thanks
The Road to Nowhere, leads to me...
Pawss
Profile Joined October 2010
United States12 Posts
October 30 2012 17:57 GMT
#3506
On October 28 2012 17:33 Jimmeh wrote:
Name: Bartar
Region: NA
League: Mid Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/268547

Just general "lucky" play by him over and over.
~16:30 - Pulls back SCVs/Vikings and sieges tanks to deal with a counter-attack he hasn't scouted
~25minutes - Blindly sieges up my expand at the bottom left natural
~25:30 - Sieges up tanks at perfect time to defend my counter-attack (although he does see me scan so he might just be reacting to that)
~35:45 - Sends Thors to exactly where my OC is without seeing it (probably just luck though but it's weird)
~38min - Sends hellions exactly position to see my hidden OC

Other than the first 2 things it could largely be contributed to lucky play, but it'd be nice to have a non-biased set of eyes look over and see what they think. He just always seemed to know exactly when and where to siege/unsiege/attack without scanning much at all.


I've played Bartar on ladder before and his play was really REALLY suspicious. He kept dropping me when I'd be out of position, when he never used a scan or took towers. It was on the map Shakuras and the most memorable moment was when I sent an observer to scout for drops, and in the replay he goes straight to his dropships and he moves his dropships around my observer. I'll try to find the replay to post more evidence if I can. But after seeing this, I'm 100% sure that he's a hacker.
orz
StavrosHL
Profile Joined December 2010
Greece128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 18:57:42
October 30 2012 18:22 GMT
#3507
On October 31 2012 02:57 Pawss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 17:33 Jimmeh wrote:
Name: Bartar
Region: NA
League: Mid Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/268547

Just general "lucky" play by him over and over.
~16:30 - Pulls back SCVs/Vikings and sieges tanks to deal with a counter-attack he hasn't scouted
~25minutes - Blindly sieges up my expand at the bottom left natural
~25:30 - Sieges up tanks at perfect time to defend my counter-attack (although he does see me scan so he might just be reacting to that)
~35:45 - Sends Thors to exactly where my OC is without seeing it (probably just luck though but it's weird)
~38min - Sends hellions exactly position to see my hidden OC

Other than the first 2 things it could largely be contributed to lucky play, but it'd be nice to have a non-biased set of eyes look over and see what they think. He just always seemed to know exactly when and where to siege/unsiege/attack without scanning much at all.


I've played Bartar on ladder before and his play was really REALLY suspicious. He kept dropping me when I'd be out of position, when he never used a scan or took towers. It was on the map Shakuras and the most memorable moment was when I sent an observer to scout for drops, and in the replay he goes straight to his dropships and he moves his dropships around my observer. I'll try to find the replay to post more evidence if I can. But after seeing this, I'm 100% sure that he's a hacker.



Too sad since he is considered a respectfull greek sc2 player since he has been playing starcraft from bw days.
HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
October 30 2012 19:52 GMT
#3508
why are there so many protoss map hackers? i dont hear about terrans or zerg map hacking.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
October 30 2012 20:03 GMT
#3509
And why are there litarelly ONLY hackers on NA? Seriously, 99% of the confirmed + mentioned ppl in this thread are on ''United States - NA''

it's fucking stupid...
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DKM
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 20:15:27
October 30 2012 20:12 GMT
#3510
Name: Apex
Region: NA
League: High Master
Replay: (Upload once i get home)

Played him twice, does not scout, attacks me directly.
Harasses exact positions you are weak.

Agree with Nerffy and EiYuu, dirty hacking bastards.
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 20:56:31
October 30 2012 20:56 GMT
#3511
On October 31 2012 05:12 DKM wrote:
Name: Apex
Region: NA
League: High Master
Replay: (Upload once i get home)

Played him twice, does not scout, attacks me directly.
Harasses exact positions you are weak.

Agree with Nerffy and EiYuu, dirty hacking bastards.


Whoaaa really?

I thought there mighta been something fishy about his play.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#3512
Played against OnTheThrone. I watch the replay to try and learn from it only to discover he never scouted at all and sent his first 6 lings to my base directly on a 4 player map. Luckily I went cc first at my ramp to act as a wall. It was only then he hardcountered the rest of my build with zero scouting. Definite map hack.
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2vs2.Zepiii
Profile Joined December 2011
Belgium134 Posts
October 30 2012 21:04 GMT
#3513
Thank you Zwei !! You made me open my eyes that there are lot of cheaters in SC2 while I thought those people were just good.
Never imagined before reading this thread that auto-blink, auto-probe, production tab hack or that desync hack (ties if loosing) could exist in a ONLY online game.
You will be missed, your thread was so important for our communauty ;
2v2 Protoss Master : twitch.tv/Zepiii || Best achievement - HotS 2v2 : Top2 World w/ Vermillion
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
October 30 2012 21:04 GMT
#3514
On October 31 2012 06:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Played against OnTheThrone. I watch the replay to try and learn from it only to discover he never scouted at all and sent his first 6 lings to my base directly on a 4 player map. Luckily I went cc first at my ramp to act as a wall. It was only then he hardcountered the rest of my build with zero scouting. Definite map hack.


Post a replay, there is no way to believe you.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 00:00:19
October 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#3515
I sorted my question with a few friends of the team. Mods feel free to delete. Apologies for the unnecessary post.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 23:50:13
October 30 2012 23:49 GMT
#3516
On October 31 2012 06:04 ButtCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 06:01 ReachTheSky wrote:
Played against OnTheThrone. I watch the replay to try and learn from it only to discover he never scouted at all and sent his first 6 lings to my base directly on a 4 player map. Luckily I went cc first at my ramp to act as a wall. It was only then he hardcountered the rest of my build with zero scouting. Definite map hack.


Post a replay, there is no way to believe you.


Here it is http://drop.sc/269476

He doesn't scout anything. Sends lings to my base right away. I'm gonna assume he had production hack if not maphack. I'm sure he was suprised to see my cc first at my ramp and not on the low ground. I went into 3 fact reactor hellion which he doesn't scout but makes never ending roaches. This same guy was also mentioned earlier in the thread as well.
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Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
October 31 2012 00:42 GMT
#3517
On October 25 2012 13:22 Trouterr wrote:
SkoreasuckS
Masters rank 17
North America

http://drop.sc/267636

At first I didn't think anything of it but about an hour after the game I thought, hey how did he send 2 probes directly to me.. so i watched the replay and i think he was maphacking. He looks into the fog of war at my base my raxes and my expo. He also watches my army moving out. He doesn't get an obs. He was terrible for a hacker but still deserves punishment. Also idk why he left at the end, maybe he saw how far ahead i was though he didn't really look at my army before he left. He kinda sweeped past it. It looked like he was trying not to be obvious as much as he could. He definitely looked at my units through the fog of war though. Also he placed cannons before he knew i was coming.


Confirmed, he as good as admits it in this replay by calling out gas and hellions without being able to see them.

http://drop.sc/269487
In Somnis Veritas
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
October 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#3518
I believe it about apex, based on the game I played against him.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2012 03:53 GMT
#3519
no wonder Eiyuu had blind 6 spores against my phoenix opening...
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 31 2012 03:58 GMT
#3520
I think it's really important that someone take over for Zwei and keep this effort going, as it got proven results from Blizzard; they even posted in this thread!! I would be interested to hear a mod's input on how someone could take over, i.e. should they make a "2.0" thread or would this thread be transferred to them? Seems simple enough for them to just make a new thread. Is there anyone willing to do this?
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