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[Interview] 2012 GSL S2 CodeS RO4 Winners - Page 7

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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 10 2012 21:15 GMT
#121
On May 11 2012 05:45 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 01:27 SovietHammer wrote:
I happy for MVP, but kind of sad at the same time. Blizzard's balence thoughts on this gsl: "If the best SC2 player can win tvp, then anyone can! In fact, we're worried that terran might be too stong, and are considering removing their "level 3" upgrades." /rant

MVP FIGHTING

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I'm partially inclined to agree. Imagine the backlash if MVP somehow rolled Squirtle 4-0 or 4-1 in the finals and Blizzard decides to nerf something from Terran due to it. I think Blizzard has a bit more common sense than that and won't necessarily try to pander to any Toss players that QQ if this happens, but I've been wrong before...

Either way, it's interesting how MVP really didn't train hard in his matches vs. Parting. I figure he will at least watch the vods of aLive vs. Squirtle on IPL 4 finals or maybe even talk to aLive to figure out a way to beat Squirtle.

Do you honestly think blizzard would alter the game solely based on the result of a single tournament?
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 10 2012 21:18 GMT
#122
Way to go Squirtle. I'm hoping you can dethrone MVP.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
May 10 2012 21:22 GMT
#123
Winners gonna win MVP!
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
May 10 2012 21:24 GMT
#124
"Overconfidence can be anyone’s downfall." this .... is .... so true.
Of course mvp was gonna win, he had Yonghwa as practice partner
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
May 10 2012 21:28 GMT
#125
200 games to help me practice.
- ST_Wartortle

Winners will win. I think I'm a winner.
- IMMvp

If this shit ain't hype over anything else...
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 22:35:56
May 10 2012 22:35 GMT
#126
On May 11 2012 00:56 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 22:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
On May 10 2012 22:02 0ne wrote:
On May 10 2012 21:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On May 10 2012 21:50 GoSuChicken wrote:
Mvp is just a fucking bonjwa in my opinion, i mean, look at this guy: He's really sick and has huge conditionproblems and still is able to advance to the finals. It's just crazy...

And yet he's still not even close to being a bonjwa.

Using that word is just too controversial

We can all agree that he has been the best sc2 player so far

Of course, but best sc2 player =/= sc2 bonjwa

He's been doing it for over a year?

A bonjwa dominates the scene for extended periods of time. MVP has had too many ups and downs to be considered a bonjwa. He hasn't been able to string together more than a few months of dominance at a time.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 10 2012 22:38 GMT
#127
On May 11 2012 07:35 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 00:56 TheDougler wrote:
On May 10 2012 22:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
On May 10 2012 22:02 0ne wrote:
On May 10 2012 21:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On May 10 2012 21:50 GoSuChicken wrote:
Mvp is just a fucking bonjwa in my opinion, i mean, look at this guy: He's really sick and has huge conditionproblems and still is able to advance to the finals. It's just crazy...

And yet he's still not even close to being a bonjwa.

Using that word is just too controversial

We can all agree that he has been the best sc2 player so far

Of course, but best sc2 player =/= sc2 bonjwa

He's been doing it for over a year?

A bonjwa dominates the scene for extended periods of time. MVP has had too many ups and downs to be considered a bonjwa. He hasn't been able to string together more than a few months of dominance at a time.

The fact that he wasn't even considered the favorite in his matches so far immediately rules that word out.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 10 2012 22:39 GMT
#128
MC plotting so that no one takes the presidency from him

Love it
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 10 2012 22:42 GMT
#129
MVP still terran king
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
May 10 2012 22:46 GMT
#130
My money is on Mvp without a doubt.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
May 10 2012 23:24 GMT
#131
Both played extremely well. Man its not until I read this interviews am I reminded of how much practice they put in with so many siiiiick siccck players. Both their lists were like the pantheon of sc2 lol. Must be such a privilege and resource.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4497 Posts
May 10 2012 23:44 GMT
#132
On May 11 2012 07:39 mordk wrote:
MC plotting so that no one takes the presidency from him

Love it

this to the 100th power!

You sly devil MC, you sly
hi. big fan.
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
May 10 2012 23:57 GMT
#133
Come on ST.Blastoise!
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 00:02:48
May 11 2012 00:02 GMT
#134
On May 11 2012 04:58 Koryu87 wrote:
Apparently MC is the best practice partner in the world, helped DRG beat Genius, helped STC beat DRG, and then helped MVP beat Parting.


Ahaha, if only he could practice with himself ;P. Want to cheer for squirtle so he can be the first royal-roader and second gsl champ, but... I want MC to remain president XD
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 11 2012 00:04 GMT
#135
On May 11 2012 07:38 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 07:35 forsooth wrote:
On May 11 2012 00:56 TheDougler wrote:
On May 10 2012 22:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
On May 10 2012 22:02 0ne wrote:
On May 10 2012 21:57 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On May 10 2012 21:50 GoSuChicken wrote:
Mvp is just a fucking bonjwa in my opinion, i mean, look at this guy: He's really sick and has huge conditionproblems and still is able to advance to the finals. It's just crazy...

And yet he's still not even close to being a bonjwa.

Using that word is just too controversial

We can all agree that he has been the best sc2 player so far

Of course, but best sc2 player =/= sc2 bonjwa

He's been doing it for over a year?

A bonjwa dominates the scene for extended periods of time. MVP has had too many ups and downs to be considered a bonjwa. He hasn't been able to string together more than a few months of dominance at a time.

The fact that he wasn't even considered the favorite in his matches so far immediately rules that word out.


obviously he isn't a bonjwa yet.

that being said...people count out mvp too easily and forget just how ridiculous this guy is. He wasn't the favorite vs naniwa, he wasn't the favorite vs parting, and yet he stomped the living shit out of them. People expect him to win everything, and when he doesn't win everything, they assume he's in a slump and basically forget about him. he's still the best player in the world. always has been.
The Notorious Winkles
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
May 11 2012 00:13 GMT
#136
MVP can win with no hands and no back. So gosu.

Hopefully Squirtle can capitalize on his IPL4 win. Hes had some real flashes in the past in the foreign tourneys, never managed to translate that to a GSL win.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
May 11 2012 00:16 GMT
#137
On May 11 2012 09:13 AKomrade wrote:
MVP can win with no hands and no back. So gosu.

Hopefully Squirtle can capitalize on his IPL4 win. Hes had some real flashes in the past in the foreign tourneys, never managed to translate that to a GSL win.


he never won ipl4 tho xD

A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 11 2012 00:19 GMT
#138
haha.. wartortle.. awesome interviews.. thanks.. wish I could see the games.. opted for year of GSTL instead.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
May 11 2012 00:52 GMT
#139
In my mind, there are two types of the top tier Code S players now.

The Old Elite: MVP, Nestea, MC.
MVP and Nestea: Give them good condition, they play rediculously well. No matter how bad they've been playing recently, no one wants to face them. Nestea only seems to lose off of decision making, never really Build order losses. MVP seems to win by having the best build orders and can only be beaten by great decision making and not falling for the mental traps. The major thing about them is that I'd never count them out ever ever. But at low points in their careers, I'd never vehemently count them in.

MC is just the agressive protoss.. something about that is too much for people to handle. Yet he certainly is no longer as potent, and his longer games just aren't THAT good.

The Talent Overwhelming: Marineking, MMA, Parting, Squirtle, Dongraegu

Marineking/parting: It's almost like they have a different laws of metagame applied to their matchups because their micro is so good. Sheer force of will and confidence wins their games. However, they can be mentally broken down and from there are the insta-losers.

MMA/Dongraegu: Heart of a champion. They play with confidence, yet not over confidence. They decide, they execute. They have good game knowledge and cheese when it seems right. They also win games by sheer force of will, but they don't have as much of an ego.

Squirtle: If parting and MC had a baby, this is him. He uses timing pushes that are very good against the current metagame, but also is capable of playing really safe with good decision making(MC lacks here a bit). His ego cannot be crushed. Whereas parting looks like god when he wins his games, squirtle just looks like he played well and won. Almost the whitera of the newcomers, he just wins for some god damn reason.

Special Mention: Leenock, Alive, Hero. Don't make the cut in my mind.

My prediction
MVP will win sets. He is too good at planning to not do that. But squirtle is a champ. He'll just keep going, and he has better micro, decision making, and current state of PvT on his side. for this reason I'd give it a 4-2 with Squirtle winning. MVP just doesn't quite have the micro to back up the multitask...
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 11 2012 01:11 GMT
#140
^ huge understatement to say MVP doesn't have the micro to back up the multitask
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