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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 00:06:01
April 17 2012 23:55 GMT
#1
I didn't see it else where, so here it is:
The announcement

Today compLexity Gaming and Team MvP are announcing the abatement of our nearly year long partnership. This is due solely to competing sponsor products.

coL.MVP will no longer compete as a joint squad nor attend events under that name. Moving forward both organizations will continue to be informally affiliated and will work together on different initiatives when possible. Team MvP will continue to offer housing for compLexity players who desire to train in Korea.

Its not hugely surprising, sponsors are the sole lifeblood of teams, and conflicting sponsors is counter productive for both.
That being said, it seems like there will be very little change in the practical relationship, bar them no longer competing together in team leagues. MVP will still host coL players, and will still "work together on different initiatives".
It seems that foreign-korean partnerships were all the rage, but are becoming less relevant, as long as foreigners can find somewhere in Korea to stay, and as Korean teams are finding their own sponsors.

Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.
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Inhumane
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada145 Posts
April 17 2012 23:58 GMT
#2
I guess this means players like NaDa, GanZi, and Heart won't play GSTL with MVP.
Damn...that sucks.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
April 17 2012 23:58 GMT
#3
Quite interesting indeed. Glad to hear it was on good terms and they'll still be working similarly.
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Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
April 17 2012 23:59 GMT
#4
More surprised they're staying affiliated at all then at this announcement. Although it isn't too farfetched since complexity would want to try and keep a home base in korea if they send players.
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OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
April 18 2012 00:01 GMT
#5
Didn't Complexity just sign another deal with Sound Blaster which included money to go to MVP?

1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 00:07:40
April 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#6
nevermind didnt read a part
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
April 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#7
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Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
April 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#8
aww no more korean col players at gstl?
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#9
eh not really a suprise tbh as the big name sponsors / quantity of sponsors increases why would you need a partnership at all?
Starion
Profile Joined December 2010
United States32 Posts
April 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#10
Does anyone know who the competing sponsors were? Minus the shared sponsors, I see on their respective TLPD pages:

MVP
Center Point - Clothing
Razer - Computer/gaming hardware

Complexity
PNY - Memory/storage
Origin - Gaming laptops
QPAD - Mouse Pads
Nation Voice - VOIP/Ventrilo services

Razer vs QPAD is the only one that stands out to me, since Razer makes mouse pads as well as typical peripheral hardware.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 18 2012 00:11 GMT
#11
Well I guess coL won't win any foreign team league without them.

Funny enough, my first ban was because I said that this kind of agreement wasn't helping the scene.
joofro92
Profile Joined July 2011
United States108 Posts
April 18 2012 00:16 GMT
#12
On April 18 2012 09:10 Starion wrote:
Does anyone know who the competing sponsors were? Minus the shared sponsors, I see on their respective TLPD pages:

MVP
Center Point - Clothing
Razer - Computer/gaming hardware

Complexity
PNY - Memory/storage
Origin - Gaming laptops
QPAD - Mouse Pads
Nation Voice - VOIP/Ventrilo services

Razer vs QPAD is the only one that stands out to me, since Razer makes mouse pads as well as typical peripheral hardware.

you forgot Creative Soundblaster
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 18 2012 00:17 GMT
#13
Saw this coming, DRG hasn't been tagged up for months now, no coverage on the compLexity website of MVP players, etc. Glad to see it's finally out there.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 18 2012 00:21 GMT
#14
On April 18 2012 09:16 joofro92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 09:10 Starion wrote:
Does anyone know who the competing sponsors were? Minus the shared sponsors, I see on their respective TLPD pages:

MVP
Center Point - Clothing
Razer - Computer/gaming hardware

Complexity
PNY - Memory/storage
Origin - Gaming laptops
QPAD - Mouse Pads
Nation Voice - VOIP/Ventrilo services

Razer vs QPAD is the only one that stands out to me, since Razer makes mouse pads as well as typical peripheral hardware.

you forgot Creative Soundblaster

They share Creative as a sponsor. Not sure if it were through the deal or not.

More than likely though, one of the teams have picked up a new sponsor which conflicts with existing sponsors of the other team.
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terranuapart
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada67 Posts
April 18 2012 00:22 GMT
#15
its funny because in most of the cw's complexity players lose 0-2 and mvp players win their 2 games , theyre finally gonna have to pick up the slack if they want to continue to win without the help of mvp
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 18 2012 00:24 GMT
#16
this makes me sad. i LOVED coL.MvP
:-)
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
April 18 2012 00:26 GMT
#17
On April 18 2012 09:10 Starion wrote:
Does anyone know who the competing sponsors were? Minus the shared sponsors, I see on their respective TLPD pages:

MVP
Center Point - Clothing
Razer - Computer/gaming hardware

Complexity
PNY - Memory/storage
Origin - Gaming laptops
QPAD - Mouse Pads
Nation Voice - VOIP/Ventrilo services

Razer vs QPAD is the only one that stands out to me, since Razer makes mouse pads as well as typical peripheral hardware.

There would also be conflict between Razer and Origin due to the RazerBlade.
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 18 2012 01:55 GMT
#18
Saw this coming since last MLG where drg wasn't introduced as colmvpdrg, but just as mvpdrg. His bnet name was also just mvpdrg and not colmvpdrg and also he didn't wear the split col/mvp jersey either. Complexity has a lot of their own koreans now so they most likely can't afford to fly out their own koreans plus mvp koreans to foreign events.
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duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
April 18 2012 01:58 GMT
#19
Too bad :/
Really like the partnership, it seemed to be working well with good interaction between the teams, unfortunate that the sponsorships conflicted.
At least the relationship will continue informally, which is important.
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Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
April 18 2012 02:01 GMT
#20
On April 18 2012 09:10 Starion wrote:
Does anyone know who the competing sponsors were? Minus the shared sponsors, I see on their respective TLPD pages:

MVP
Center Point - Clothing
Razer - Computer/gaming hardware

Complexity
PNY - Memory/storage
Origin - Gaming laptops
QPAD - Mouse Pads
Nation Voice - VOIP/Ventrilo services

Razer vs QPAD is the only one that stands out to me, since Razer makes mouse pads as well as typical peripheral hardware.


QPAD makes keyboards and mice as well.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
April 18 2012 02:10 GMT
#21
On April 18 2012 09:01 OptimusYale wrote:
Didn't Complexity just sign another deal with Sound Blaster which included money to go to MVP?


Source?
Maybe Sound Blaster is still sponsoring MVP independantly
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Popcorn1
Profile Joined August 2010
United States92 Posts
April 18 2012 14:44 GMT
#22
On April 18 2012 11:10 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 09:01 OptimusYale wrote:
Didn't Complexity just sign another deal with Sound Blaster which included money to go to MVP?


Source?
Maybe Sound Blaster is still sponsoring MVP independantly

Creative and Razer were the conflicting sponsors, and Creative is no longer sponsoring MVP.
compLexity Gaming Player Manager - www.complexitygaming.com
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 18 2012 14:52 GMT
#23
soundblaster and razor both make headsets.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 18 2012 15:00 GMT
#24
Wouldn't be that surprising to see coL acquire few more Korean based players and try its luck in GSTL
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 18 2012 15:05 GMT
#25
col dont really need mvp anymore since they signed a bunch of koreans themselves recently.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
April 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#26
On April 18 2012 08:55 MCDayC wrote:
Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.

I think it's okay that you didn't put it more dramatic.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 18 2012 15:29 GMT
#27
On April 19 2012 00:23 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 08:55 MCDayC wrote:
Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.

I think it's okay that you didn't put it more dramatic.

No body seems to care! It's kinda big news, I though that this thread would be shut cause someone else had already posted it and that it would be in the community news section, but apparently not.
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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
April 18 2012 15:33 GMT
#28
On April 19 2012 00:29 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 00:23 [F_]aths wrote:
On April 18 2012 08:55 MCDayC wrote:
Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.

I think it's okay that you didn't put it more dramatic.

No body seems to care! It's kinda big news, I though that this thread would be shut cause someone else had already posted it and that it would be in the community news section, but apparently not.


I think it would be bigger news is it was a messy seperation or one of the teams couldnt support themselves. But complexity has been financially stable since it began(except for right after cgs) and mvp has picled up enough sponsors not to need help flying out their guys anymore
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
April 18 2012 15:34 GMT
#29
On April 18 2012 08:55 MCDayC wrote:
Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.


"CoL-MVP-geddon: How lovers became mortal enemies!

So guys, it looks like even though CoL and MVP are still working together in nearly every way, it looks like they won't officially be the same group. WILL DRG AND CATZ HAVE A FIGHT TO THE DEATH BECAUSE OF THIS????"

Your title was probably fine.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 18 2012 15:39 GMT
#30
On April 19 2012 00:34 Treehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 08:55 MCDayC wrote:
Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.


"CoL-MVP-geddon: How lovers became mortal enemies!

So guys, it looks like even though CoL and MVP are still working together in nearly every way, it looks like they won't officially be the same group. WILL DRG AND CATZ HAVE A FIGHT TO THE DEATH BECAUSE OF THIS????"

Your title was probably fine.


would have like MvP-coLgate better
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Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
April 18 2012 16:03 GMT
#31
On April 18 2012 09:10 Starion wrote:
Does anyone know who the competing sponsors were? Minus the shared sponsors, I see on their respective TLPD pages:

MVP
Center Point - Clothing
Razer - Computer/gaming hardware

Complexity
PNY - Memory/storage
Origin - Gaming laptops
QPAD - Mouse Pads
Nation Voice - VOIP/Ventrilo services

Razer vs QPAD is the only one that stands out to me, since Razer makes mouse pads as well as typical peripheral hardware.

Qpad makes headsets, keyboards, mice etc. aswell...
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 18 2012 16:08 GMT
#32
This was expected. I mentioned back at MLG Winter how DRG was not playing under colMVP anymore like at previous MLGs, only MVP.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 18 2012 17:37 GMT
#33
Ah well, everything is on good terms, they still cooperate and we don't have lengthy double-team names in colmvp. All for the better if you ask me. Thanks for the info @op!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45348 Posts
April 18 2012 17:39 GMT
#34
That's a pity. Hopefully coL has acquired enough Koreans so that they can hold their own from now on.

+ Show Spoiler +
Or CatZ has learned enough from DRG. lol.
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Mzimzim
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
April 18 2012 17:46 GMT
#35
As long as it doesn't affect the bromance that has flourished between CatZ and DRG, I'm completely fine with this.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 18 2012 17:48 GMT
#36
I'm guessing that they will continue as one for EG MCSL and IPL TAC3?
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Auren
Profile Joined November 2011
United States82 Posts
April 18 2012 19:41 GMT
#37
On one hand, it's a shame to see the partnership end. Glad it seems to have ended amiacably. On the other hand, I've always found the partnership teams playing together in team leagues a bit... odd. I guess I just prefer mvp to play as mvp and complexity to play as complexity.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 18 2012 19:51 GMT
#38
On April 19 2012 02:48 Bagration wrote:
I'm guessing that they will continue as one for EG MCSL and IPL TAC3?


I don´t know about EGMCSL, but at IPLTAC3 they will compete each as it´s own team. (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IPL_Team_Arena_Challenge/3)
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 18 2012 19:54 GMT
#39
makes sense. kind of hurts col more than mvp imo
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
April 18 2012 20:03 GMT
#40
as long as they continue to house coL players its cool with me. The team needs a place to stay in korea after all lol
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ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
April 18 2012 20:30 GMT
#41
Errr, what's the big deal with competing sponsor products? You can't have PC on one shoulder and Mac on the other with uniforms?
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
April 18 2012 20:40 GMT
#42
On April 19 2012 05:30 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Errr, what's the big deal with competing sponsor products? You can't have PC on one shoulder and Mac on the other with uniforms?

I don't know, that seems a bit awkward.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
April 19 2012 09:12 GMT
#43
On April 19 2012 00:29 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 00:23 [F_]aths wrote:
On April 18 2012 08:55 MCDayC wrote:
Edit: I feel like I should have put a more dramatic, Artosis-esque hype title, to get dem drama views, "Revised" isn't nearly scary enough.

I think it's okay that you didn't put it more dramatic.

No body seems to care! It's kinda big news, I though that this thread would be shut cause someone else had already posted it and that it would be in the community news section, but apparently not.

I would consider this more or less a side-note because I would consider it important if the teams have a practical cooperation or not. Leaving the shared name "coL-MVP" aside because of sponsors isn't such a big deal I think.
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