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On March 19 2012 12:18 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 11:53 Monochromatic wrote:On March 19 2012 11:25 MerusVeritas wrote: Let's be honest this poll means a lot more to TB than he's letting on. TB unfortunately isn't as popular in the SC2 community as he'd like to be. That's nothing against the guy personally, but generally speaking when it comes to casting I think people tend to prefer ex or current pros to cast rather than random commentators.
So this is his way of trying to compensate for that massive insecurity he has (btw donating so much money to the community is another symptom of this insecurity, he is effectively trying to buy acceptance into the community).
Yes others have tweeted too, but they were going to win their brackets anyway. If either Day9 or Husky came up against Artosis Pylon they would have lost and they would have left it at that. But no, TB has to tweet over and over again (even post on his YT channel) until he gets his way.
The reason why TB tweeting is different to Husky, Day9 or DJWheat tweeting is twofold. 1. None of them would take it as far as TB has 2. ALL of their respective fanbases are ONLY SC2 related. 75% of TBs followers on Twitter or YT have absolutely no interest in SC2 and therefore it does completely rig the results.
Yes, at the end of the day this is a 'fun' and 'light-hearted' poll. However, given that some people in TBs bracket don't even have a clue what they are voting for and about, makes this pointless poll entirely meaningless. If you made a poll about who was the most powerful pokemon, yes the poll would be mostly pointless and stupid. But if you got random people who didn't have a clue about pokemon voting for it... that would make a pointless poll meaningless. That's the problem here.
So go ahead TB, sabotage what is essentially a pointless poll. However, it won't buy you the acceptance you so crave. I really don't agree with you, but I have no idea why TB must win. However, I do agree that most of his followers don't have any idea of ESPORTS. And by the way, best pokemon is: + Show Spoiler +zigzaggoon-leftovers-252ATTACK-252SPEED-4HP Belly Drum Extremespeed Subsitistute U-Turn get up a sub, Belly Drum, then spam extremespeed.
How are you going to get up a sub...are you implying that even with full speed EVs and + speed nature Zigzagoon is going first against anything? Missingo best pokemon.
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Husky's Banelings vs Hurting E-Sports in the finals, and Banelings wins.
Calling it now.
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Please, go back to reddit, and take your stupid shit polls with you.
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On March 19 2012 12:22 RemoteLink wrote: Please, go back to reddit, and take your stupid shit polls with you. wats stuck up your butt?
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Banelings is only beating Reddit pitchforks because everyone on reddit is banned from TL.
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Twitter is hurting esports....
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On March 19 2012 12:18 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 11:53 Monochromatic wrote:On March 19 2012 11:25 MerusVeritas wrote: Let's be honest this poll means a lot more to TB than he's letting on. TB unfortunately isn't as popular in the SC2 community as he'd like to be. That's nothing against the guy personally, but generally speaking when it comes to casting I think people tend to prefer ex or current pros to cast rather than random commentators.
So this is his way of trying to compensate for that massive insecurity he has (btw donating so much money to the community is another symptom of this insecurity, he is effectively trying to buy acceptance into the community).
Yes others have tweeted too, but they were going to win their brackets anyway. If either Day9 or Husky came up against Artosis Pylon they would have lost and they would have left it at that. But no, TB has to tweet over and over again (even post on his YT channel) until he gets his way.
The reason why TB tweeting is different to Husky, Day9 or DJWheat tweeting is twofold. 1. None of them would take it as far as TB has 2. ALL of their respective fanbases are ONLY SC2 related. 75% of TBs followers on Twitter or YT have absolutely no interest in SC2 and therefore it does completely rig the results.
Yes, at the end of the day this is a 'fun' and 'light-hearted' poll. However, given that some people in TBs bracket don't even have a clue what they are voting for and about, makes this pointless poll entirely meaningless. If you made a poll about who was the most powerful pokemon, yes the poll would be mostly pointless and stupid. But if you got random people who didn't have a clue about pokemon voting for it... that would make a pointless poll meaningless. That's the problem here.
So go ahead TB, sabotage what is essentially a pointless poll. However, it won't buy you the acceptance you so crave. I really don't agree with you, but I have no idea why TB must win. However, I do agree that most of his followers don't have any idea of ESPORTS. And by the way, best pokemon is: + Show Spoiler +zigzaggoon-leftovers-252ATTACK-252SPEED-4HP Belly Drum Extremespeed Subsitistute U-Turn get up a sub, Belly Drum, then spam extremespeed.
How are you going to get up a sub...are you implying that even with full speed EVs and + speed nature Zigzagoon is going first against anything? I miss competitive Pokemon lol. I was a D/P player when Garchomp wasn't banned. And I quit right when the campaign of him getting banned was about to succeed.
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On March 19 2012 12:05 MerusVeritas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 12:03 Galamoth wrote:On March 19 2012 11:57 MerusVeritas wrote:On March 19 2012 11:49 Galamoth wrote:On March 19 2012 11:25 MerusVeritas wrote: Let's be honest this poll means a lot more to TB than he's letting on. TB unfortunately isn't as popular in the SC2 community as he'd like to be. That's nothing against the guy personally, but generally speaking when it comes to casting I think people tend to prefer ex or current pros to cast rather than random commentators.
So this is his way of trying to compensate for that massive insecurity he has (btw donating so much money to the community is another symptom of this insecurity, he is effectively trying to buy acceptance into the community).
Yes others have tweeted too, but they were going to win their brackets anyway. If either Day9 or Husky came up against Artosis Pylon they would have lost and they would have left it at that. But no, TB has to tweet over and over again (even post on his YT channel) until he gets his way.
The reason why TB tweeting is different to Husky, Day9 or DJWheat tweeting is twofold. 1. None of them would take it as far as TB has 2. ALL of their respective fanbases are ONLY SC2 related. 75% of TBs followers on Twitter or YT have absolutely no interest in SC2 and therefore it does completely rig the results.
Yes, at the end of the day this is a 'fun' and 'light-hearted' poll. However, given that some people in TBs bracket don't even have a clue what they are voting for and about, makes this pointless poll entirely meaningless. If you made a poll about who was the most powerful pokemon, yes the poll would be mostly pointless and stupid. But if you got random people who didn't have a clue about pokemon voting for it... that would make a pointless poll meaningless. That's the problem here.
So go ahead TB, sabotage what is essentially a pointless poll. However, it won't buy you the acceptance you so crave. Uhm, interesting... So 75% of TB's watchers don't care about SC2, that implies that 25% of them do. TB has over 600k subs, and he has 6k votes, my friend the math is weak within you. Btw, i did vote for the Artosis Pylon, and im not telling anyone that they should or should not do so, but the points made here are completely invalid. 26% of all statistics are unreliable. Seriously dude? I can't believe in that entire post all you decided to focus on was an ambiguous number I pulled out of thin air. The statistic isn't of importance my friend, it's the fact that the MAJORITY (something I can say with certainty) of his fanbase do not follow or have any interest in SC2. Thats what i'm saying, u pulled it out of thin air, which makes it invalid, and yes, most of his subs don't give a damn about sc2 but at the same time, most of his subs (6K from 600k) didn't even bother reading the tweet. I fail to see the valid point in the argument, but as I said, i think the Artosis pylon should be winning this. It doesn't matter that the majority didn't read the tweet, it matters that there will be a significant number of people who would have voted for this who have absolutely no interest in SC2.
And I never denied that, what I said is that your numbers where straight up wrong. And now that I read it again, saying that a guy that casts at Dreamhack, Assembley, and was hired for IPL (but couldn't do it because of visa issues) is insecure about his popularity is ridiculous, i mean come on dude, he may not be a great player, he may not know as much about the game as Artosis, Day[9], Tasteless, etc. but he is kinda big in the sc2 scene.
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yaaaaay TB is bringing in his fanbase to win him the poll
It is kinda silly IMO because 75% of his fan base doesn't give a shit about SC2 its just ruining the poll IMO ill quote something i read about it. that quote from MerusVeritas is perfect
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On March 19 2012 12:27 Galamoth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 12:05 MerusVeritas wrote:On March 19 2012 12:03 Galamoth wrote:On March 19 2012 11:57 MerusVeritas wrote:On March 19 2012 11:49 Galamoth wrote:On March 19 2012 11:25 MerusVeritas wrote: Let's be honest this poll means a lot more to TB than he's letting on. TB unfortunately isn't as popular in the SC2 community as he'd like to be. That's nothing against the guy personally, but generally speaking when it comes to casting I think people tend to prefer ex or current pros to cast rather than random commentators.
So this is his way of trying to compensate for that massive insecurity he has (btw donating so much money to the community is another symptom of this insecurity, he is effectively trying to buy acceptance into the community).
Yes others have tweeted too, but they were going to win their brackets anyway. If either Day9 or Husky came up against Artosis Pylon they would have lost and they would have left it at that. But no, TB has to tweet over and over again (even post on his YT channel) until he gets his way.
The reason why TB tweeting is different to Husky, Day9 or DJWheat tweeting is twofold. 1. None of them would take it as far as TB has 2. ALL of their respective fanbases are ONLY SC2 related. 75% of TBs followers on Twitter or YT have absolutely no interest in SC2 and therefore it does completely rig the results.
Yes, at the end of the day this is a 'fun' and 'light-hearted' poll. However, given that some people in TBs bracket don't even have a clue what they are voting for and about, makes this pointless poll entirely meaningless. If you made a poll about who was the most powerful pokemon, yes the poll would be mostly pointless and stupid. But if you got random people who didn't have a clue about pokemon voting for it... that would make a pointless poll meaningless. That's the problem here.
So go ahead TB, sabotage what is essentially a pointless poll. However, it won't buy you the acceptance you so crave. Uhm, interesting... So 75% of TB's watchers don't care about SC2, that implies that 25% of them do. TB has over 600k subs, and he has 6k votes, my friend the math is weak within you. Btw, i did vote for the Artosis Pylon, and im not telling anyone that they should or should not do so, but the points made here are completely invalid. 26% of all statistics are unreliable. Seriously dude? I can't believe in that entire post all you decided to focus on was an ambiguous number I pulled out of thin air. The statistic isn't of importance my friend, it's the fact that the MAJORITY (something I can say with certainty) of his fanbase do not follow or have any interest in SC2. Thats what i'm saying, u pulled it out of thin air, which makes it invalid, and yes, most of his subs don't give a damn about sc2 but at the same time, most of his subs (6K from 600k) didn't even bother reading the tweet. I fail to see the valid point in the argument, but as I said, i think the Artosis pylon should be winning this. It doesn't matter that the majority didn't read the tweet, it matters that there will be a significant number of people who would have voted for this who have absolutely no interest in SC2. And I never denied that, what I said is that your numbers where straight up wrong. And now that I read it again, saying that a guy that casts at Dreamhack, Assembley, and was hired for IPL (but couldn't do it because of visa issues) is insecure about his popularity is ridiculous, i mean come on dude, he may not be a great player, he may not know as much about the game as Artosis, Day[9], Tasteless, etc. but he is kinda big in the sc2 scene.
Can we continue this conversation via pm? Otherwise I'm done here. I'll reply to you via pm.
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On March 19 2012 12:20 Archontas wrote: Husky's Banelings vs Hurting E-Sports in the finals, and Banelings wins.
Calling it now.
No Day[9]'s trumpets? :sadface:
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I'm pretty sure all these arguments are futile. God willing, Poopfeast420 will go uncontested.
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How is Artosis Pylon losing?!
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On March 19 2012 12:29 GypsyBeast wrote: yaaaaay TB is bringing in his fanbase to win him the poll
It is kinda silly IMO because 75% of his fan base doesn't give a shit about SC2 its just ruining the poll IMO ill quote something i read about it. that quote from MerusVeritas is perfect I agree, the quote implying that a pointless poll weren't meaningless to begin with is bloody perfect.
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For all those Siriuz Bizniz people in this thread bashing TB: Please provide proof and source for those numbers and statements. His subscriber count for his SC2 Channel on Youtube alone is at the moment ~77500, Only ~6900 votes in his favor as of this posting. Claiming that every vote gained is from people that actually gives a sh-- about SC2 is just as valid and in fact far more likely than the opposite given his votecount and fanbase size.
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I want 'Ultralisk Drop Harass' to take this tourney so fucking bad! LOL!!!
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GRACK. also, I want Artosis pylon to win!
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On March 19 2012 13:43 GenesisX wrote: GRACK. also, I want Artosis pylon to win! All you need to do is get 2000 people to vote for it.
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On March 19 2012 12:22 RemoteLink wrote: Please, go back to reddit, and take your stupid shit polls with you. wait, you're telling hot_bid to go back to reddit? LOL
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I don't think he's very familar with Hot_Bid even though he uses reddit a lot too, lmao.
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