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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 26 2012 03:51 GMT
#4501
I watched for free and thought it wasnt that good. From this leeches prospective I think playing without an audience was a big mistake, there was no emotion. I am a fan of the atmosphere of old mlgs with huge rambunctious crowds and players reactions and feeding off of it. Games themselves, well not their fault for that but none of these will be in a "top 10" list anytime soon.
MC for president
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 04:47:32
February 26 2012 04:46 GMT
#4502
Watched ~5 minutes Socke vs Merz, but it lagged so badly even on 720p (living in germany, 50mbit), that i am really glad that i did not pay.

Didnt look too bad qualitywise, but 480p for 20$, you better come over and serve me drinks for that.

Edit: to be honest, i will never ever ever pay for a 480p stream.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 05:38:58
February 26 2012 05:37 GMT
#4503
I don't mind paying the $20 that I did for the ticket, the production value has been pretty damn good so far and the games and players alone make it worth it. So far I have almost zero regrets about my purchase, However I am a little bit unsettled about the fact that so many people are being able to view it for free, I hope the people that actually payed can get some sort of reimbursement or at the very least a discount for the next MLG arena. I don't mean to whine nor am I mad at people for taking advantage of this error but it is rather frustrating to know you essentially donated money to view the same thing that others get to view for free. Oh well, on the bright side at least people who legitimately cant afford it get to watch some of the best Starcraft 2 I've ever seen.


Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
February 26 2012 06:04 GMT
#4504
On February 26 2012 14:37 Astro-Penguin wrote:
I don't mind paying the $20 that I did for the ticket, the production value has been pretty damn good so far and the games and players alone make it worth it. So far I have almost zero regrets about my purchase, However I am a little bit unsettled about the fact that so many people are being able to view it for free, I hope the people that actually payed can get some sort of reimbursement or at the very least a discount for the next MLG arena. I don't mean to whine nor am I mad at people for taking advantage of this error but it is rather frustrating to know you essentially donated money to view the same thing that others get to view for free. Oh well, on the bright side at least people who legitimately cant afford it get to watch some of the best Starcraft 2 I've ever seen.



They get the first match of everyday for free, and Google Chrome has an add-on which allows you to watch it. It really isn't MLGs fault that these people are using chrome to bypass the PPV system.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
February 26 2012 06:06 GMT
#4505
Despite the fact that people can watch it for free, I would still say that this tournament has been a good one and worth the buy. I'm not saying that every Arena should be $20, but so far with many amazing games and the production quality with 4 game play streams and an extra for behind the scenes, it was worth it this weekend.
cscarfo1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States307 Posts
February 26 2012 06:14 GMT
#4506
How are people accessing this for free?
RIP oGs :( Bisu~ MC~Jaedong~Hero~Tyler~Flash~NaNi~DRG~MVP~Nestea~FXOz~and of course ForGG
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
February 26 2012 06:15 GMT
#4507
On February 26 2012 15:06 eLeVaTioN wrote:
Despite the fact that people can watch it for free, I would still say that this tournament has been a good one and worth the buy. I'm not saying that every Arena should be $20, but so far with many amazing games and the production quality with 4 game play streams and an extra for behind the scenes, it was worth it this weekend.


I second that. I think the production value, the amount of coverage, and quality of the streams have been well worth the price. Of course it is just by luck that every single game has been absolutely amazing, but it sure makes the price tag seem even less significant. If every MLG was this good, I would pay 20$ every time.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
February 26 2012 06:16 GMT
#4508
On February 26 2012 15:04 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 14:37 Astro-Penguin wrote:
I don't mind paying the $20 that I did for the ticket, the production value has been pretty damn good so far and the games and players alone make it worth it. So far I have almost zero regrets about my purchase, However I am a little bit unsettled about the fact that so many people are being able to view it for free, I hope the people that actually payed can get some sort of reimbursement or at the very least a discount for the next MLG arena. I don't mean to whine nor am I mad at people for taking advantage of this error but it is rather frustrating to know you essentially donated money to view the same thing that others get to view for free. Oh well, on the bright side at least people who legitimately cant afford it get to watch some of the best Starcraft 2 I've ever seen.



They get the first match of everyday for free, and Google Chrome has an add-on which allows you to watch it. It really isn't MLGs fault that these people are using chrome to bypass the PPV system.


I use chrome and opera as standard, im not using it "to bypass PPV". And, yeah. Its MLGs "fault", who elses would it be. People who use chrome? Its the first time ever, that i could watch something for free (didnt do it though, because it lagged too badly - even tho a german was playing at that time) which actually was not supposed to.

So, while i dont really know a lot about websiteprogramming, if a simple "browserchoice" can screw your whole PPV-model, well, i guess the webmaster/engineering team should be fired then. Its not like you need to configure stuff or hack into something - its just a normal browser which is pretty common.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
February 26 2012 06:18 GMT
#4509
On February 26 2012 15:04 Ercster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 14:37 Astro-Penguin wrote:
I don't mind paying the $20 that I did for the ticket, the production value has been pretty damn good so far and the games and players alone make it worth it. So far I have almost zero regrets about my purchase, However I am a little bit unsettled about the fact that so many people are being able to view it for free, I hope the people that actually payed can get some sort of reimbursement or at the very least a discount for the next MLG arena. I don't mean to whine nor am I mad at people for taking advantage of this error but it is rather frustrating to know you essentially donated money to view the same thing that others get to view for free. Oh well, on the bright side at least people who legitimately cant afford it get to watch some of the best Starcraft 2 I've ever seen.



They get the first match of everyday for free, and Google Chrome has an add-on which allows you to watch it. It really isn't MLGs fault that these people are using chrome to bypass the PPV system.


Yeah, like I said I'm not to flustered about it however I do hope MLG does address it to some degree even if it is twitches fault. Perhaps instead of reducing the price to a flat fee of $10 next time like they anticipate make that $10 offer exclusive only to the previous buyers of the Winter Arena and keep the price at $20 for the rest of the interested parties making them essentially have to pay for both events if they want to view the next one, of course this could be unfair to anyone who didn't take advantage of the free stream. I'm probably coming off as a bit stingy and by no means do I regret paying my 20 dollars considering its an investment into better production value and players themselves, but I don't like seeing anyone who actually payed getting shafted and having people simply to cheap (not legitimate poor people and people unable to pay online) able to enjoy the same content without supporting the event due to the premise that they actually payed thus avoiding any sort of ads.
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
February 26 2012 06:24 GMT
#4510
On February 26 2012 15:16 m4inbrain wrote:

I use chrome and opera as standard, im not using it "to bypass PPV". And, yeah. Its MLGs "fault", who elses would it be. People who use chrome? Its the first time ever, that i could watch something for free (didnt do it though, because it lagged too badly - even tho a german was playing at that time) which actually was not supposed to.

So, while i dont really know a lot about websiteprogramming, if a simple "browserchoice" can screw your whole PPV-model, well, i guess the webmaster/engineering team should be fired then. Its not like you need to configure stuff or hack into something - its just a normal browser which is pretty common.


It's not MLG's fault, it's Twitch.tv's fault because MLG used twitch.tv's website as the streaming site. Twitch was supposed to fix those issues but obviously they didn't do too good of a job
Ctoan
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 06:29:15
February 26 2012 06:28 GMT
#4511
I don't mind other people getting the stream for free. I paid the money cause i wanted to watch the games and i dont mind supporting people trying to put on really good tournaments. You would think the people sitting on twitch.tv getting the stream for free wouldve had a bit of guilty conscious but meh.
NexaS
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States202 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#4512
On February 26 2012 15:28 Ctoan wrote:
I don't mind other people getting the stream for free. I paid the money cause i wanted to watch the games and i dont mind supporting people trying to put on really good tournaments. You would think the people sitting on twitch.tv getting the stream for free wouldve had a bit of guilty conscious but meh.

A guilty conscious for watching StarCraft 2 for free on the internet. Yeah, right.
TexaS
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#4513
I think it's funny people complaining about lag when they didn't even pay for it I had 3 streams at 480p at a time, and the 4th stream at 1080p (whatever game i was actually watching at the time) no lag at all on any of them. It was worth the $15 I paid for sure (gold member ;D) and I also went to barcraft on Friday. MLG did great here.
Wahaha
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
February 26 2012 06:35 GMT
#4514
I watched for free. I dont see how they charged 20$ for it.
Doesnt look different from any other tournament, some of the casters are just awful. If i were to pay 20$ for this Id be mad, especially since people can watch it right from twitch for free in 1080p ha
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
February 26 2012 06:35 GMT
#4515
So what was the point of me buying an MLG gold pass again?
We march to victory!
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
February 26 2012 06:36 GMT
#4516
On February 26 2012 15:35 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
I watched for free. I dont see how they charged 20$ for it.
Doesnt look different from any other tournament, some of the casters are just awful. If i were to pay 20$ for this Id be mad, especially since people can watch it right from twitch for free in 1080p ha


Grats on stealing. People like you are pathetic.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
February 26 2012 06:38 GMT
#4517
On February 26 2012 15:14 cscarfo1 wrote:
How are people accessing this for free?


read the thread .... 1 page back ....
1sz2sz3sz
Profile Joined January 2012
Andorra173 Posts
February 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#4518
On February 26 2012 15:36 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:35 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
I watched for free. I dont see how they charged 20$ for it.
Doesnt look different from any other tournament, some of the casters are just awful. If i were to pay 20$ for this Id be mad, especially since people can watch it right from twitch for free in 1080p ha


Grats on stealing. People like you are pathetic.

Maybe they should fix their problem then, Ive been able to watch for free on twitch since the start of the tournament
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
February 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#4519
I was getting a bit of lag here and there and had to switch down to 480p which was rather unfortunate, whether that was an issue from my own end or an issue from the MLG and twitch.tv's end remains to be seen, kind of frustrating to here that people who viewed it for free got by with zero lag while meanwhile some subscriber (myself included) had issues with a choppy and a laggy stream.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#4520
20 dollars might have been too much but this was worth it IMO.

Instead of taking my girl out to the movies we watched some starcraft for a few hours yesterday and today Got to drink some beers, eat dinner and enjoy the comfort of our home.

So what imo, next event will be cheaper. People are still trying to recover from the shock of having to pay for something that is usually free. We got some great games this weekend so far.
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