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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

Bans will be handed out.

Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
aruken
Profile Joined March 2011
France348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 21:14:39
February 25 2012 21:14 GMT
#4421
opaque
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation89 Posts
February 25 2012 21:24 GMT
#4422
Had I not spent the money on MLG, I probably would have ended spending more this weekend being out friday and saturday nights.

There are a ton of amazing games to be watched.
What
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
February 25 2012 21:24 GMT
#4423
On February 26 2012 04:41 Fission wrote:
As far as everybody else illegally accessing the stream goes - well, you're parasites. Thanks for ruining the industry for the rest of us who actually care.


Erm I don't know how long it has been going on, but the first hour of each day was supposed to be free.

Also, even if this is a mistake, MLG doesn't really lose on it. I don't believe anyone thought they were gonna be able to watch this tournament for free without going to a barcraft, so if some get free access now it will only increase the chance of them paying for the next one if they like what they see. Of course, it sucks for the people who bought the pass but....
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
February 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#4424
I was dumb enough to try and support MLG by buying a gold membership. Imagine my joy to discover I can't watch this content.

They've guaranteed they'll never get another cent out of me.

Hope it was worth it guys.
Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
February 25 2012 21:40 GMT
#4425
Just got back from skiing and was able to tune in without a pass? Strange that I was also able to watch so many games yesterday as well, poor Drewbie... =(
GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
February 25 2012 21:43 GMT
#4426
worth every penny thus far. $20 invested, and due to that I have spent every second of free time watching and being thoroughly entertained.

Love it 0.0326/.0
36*9.3
003
:))
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
February 25 2012 21:51 GMT
#4427
On February 26 2012 06:40 NSGrendel wrote:
I was dumb enough to try and support MLG by buying a gold membership. Imagine my joy to discover I can't watch this content.

They've guaranteed they'll never get another cent out of me.

Hope it was worth it guys.


It's your loss...

This is the best tournament I've watched, including the GSL.
<3 Moonbattles
bigbadgreen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
February 25 2012 21:54 GMT
#4428
I just don't think sc2 is ready for the ppv model. I hope that MLG proves me wrong and it thrives because it's good for esports and tournaments to have a solid income. I however don't think it's the right time. I would think that any tournament would try to get as many viewers as possible to increase ad revenue. By being able to show past viewer numbers to companies you can ask for more money for ads. Or you can put the entire burden on the community because you feel that viewers are maxed out at this point. In effect they are cutting off casual viewers and hoping that diehards will support the scene. We'll have to wait to see how it pans out.

Personally I didn't invest into MLG because I am a casual player and watcher. I don't have time to get my $20 worth out of it. Today for example I was able to watch the several rounds of the asus ROG. I of course had other things to do in between games and missed some parts of them but overall, ads and all, it was an enjoyable experience with top level games. I just don't have time to watch 3 days worth on content and don't feel like the cost is worth the time. To clarify I have a full time job, a house and a pregnant wife. If I get to game and or watch streams for several hours a week I feel lucky.

I really think people are underestimating the amount of casuals there are that would love to support MLG but just can't justify it. By switching to a ppv model they have just cut off a large group of people. I can see this trickling down to live attendance as well. Good luck MLG, I'll be following results.
xShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada52 Posts
February 25 2012 21:55 GMT
#4429
Would have been nice if they had a daily cost at least, rather than 1 payment for an entire weekend
This cake is fight
NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
February 25 2012 21:58 GMT
#4430
On February 26 2012 06:51 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:40 NSGrendel wrote:
I was dumb enough to try and support MLG by buying a gold membership. Imagine my joy to discover I can't watch this content.

They've guaranteed they'll never get another cent out of me.

Hope it was worth it guys.


It's your loss...

This is the best tournament I've watched, including the GSL.


Actually it's their loss. It's not like you have to pay for content on the intarwebs. I just chose to.
CalmB4theStorm
Profile Joined September 2011
62 Posts
February 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#4431
Hmm, from a purely objective standpoint, this seems like a bad business model for MLG.

First of all, this is wildly unpopular with fans in a sport where fan dedication is what keeps the sport alive (compare/contrast MLG and NASL).

Second, it is poorly implemented, with workarounds being discovered immediately during the very first broadcast. Some of these workarounds are likely fixable, while others are not (restreams), showing that this model is likely not sustainable.

On a subjective note, as a MLG gold member, I am highly disappointed that, having already paid money to MLG, I still can't watch their stuff. $20 for 20 hours of programming is seriously overpriced for this level of production (I love it, but this isn't Jurassic Park here), especially considering that there is STILL ad support. Also, the lack of a live audience completely dampens the excitement for me as a viewer.

I love MLG and wish them good fortune, but I will not be renewing my MLG membership (I'm not sure what good it is anymore) and can't justify spending so much on one weekend of SC2.
CalmB4theStorm
Profile Joined September 2011
62 Posts
February 25 2012 22:07 GMT
#4432
On February 26 2012 06:54 bigbadgreen wrote:
I just don't think sc2 is ready for the ppv model. I hope that MLG proves me wrong and it thrives because it's good for esports and tournaments to have a solid income. I however don't think it's the right time. I would think that any tournament would try to get as many viewers as possible to increase ad revenue. By being able to show past viewer numbers to companies you can ask for more money for ads. Or you can put the entire burden on the community because you feel that viewers are maxed out at this point. In effect they are cutting off casual viewers and hoping that diehards will support the scene. We'll have to wait to see how it pans out.

Personally I didn't invest into MLG because I am a casual player and watcher. I don't have time to get my $20 worth out of it. Today for example I was able to watch the several rounds of the asus ROG. I of course had other things to do in between games and missed some parts of them but overall, ads and all, it was an enjoyable experience with top level games. I just don't have time to watch 3 days worth on content and don't feel like the cost is worth the time. To clarify I have a full time job, a house and a pregnant wife. If I get to game and or watch streams for several hours a week I feel lucky.

I really think people are underestimating the amount of casuals there are that would love to support MLG but just can't justify it. By switching to a ppv model they have just cut off a large group of people. I can see this trickling down to live attendance as well. Good luck MLG, I'll be following results.

Amen brother.
NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
February 25 2012 22:15 GMT
#4433
Also - the observercam management in the Thorzain Vs Grubby match is awful.

To quote Patches Hoolihan, "it's like watching retards trying to fuck a doorknob".
shsaint
Profile Joined July 2010
United States30 Posts
February 25 2012 23:28 GMT
#4434
You can watch the streams if you remove cache/history, and toggle between 1080+ 720p. Works like wonder in firefox.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
February 25 2012 23:36 GMT
#4435
On February 26 2012 06:51 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:40 NSGrendel wrote:
I was dumb enough to try and support MLG by buying a gold membership. Imagine my joy to discover I can't watch this content.

They've guaranteed they'll never get another cent out of me.

Hope it was worth it guys.


It's your loss...

This is the best tournament I've watched, including the GSL.


This is such an arrogant response. They at least should have given Gold Membership buyers a decent discount or access to this weekends games. It just seems like a kick in the gut and makes me want to pay less for anything they provide because it may not be what it seems.
Luppa <3
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 25 2012 23:38 GMT
#4436
On February 26 2012 08:36 ODKStevez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:51 Perseverance wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:40 NSGrendel wrote:
I was dumb enough to try and support MLG by buying a gold membership. Imagine my joy to discover I can't watch this content.

They've guaranteed they'll never get another cent out of me.

Hope it was worth it guys.


It's your loss...

This is the best tournament I've watched, including the GSL.


This is such an arrogant response. They at least should have given Gold Membership buyers a decent discount or access to this weekends games. It just seems like a kick in the gut and makes me want to pay less for anything they provide because it may not be what it seems.

they gave gold members a 25% discount; silver members got jack shit.
MoooN1
Profile Joined December 2007
Germany128 Posts
February 25 2012 23:41 GMT
#4437
casters sitting in a white box ?
players playing in an empty room ?
no crowd ?
no emotions?

well ill never pay for a shitty tournament like this
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
February 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#4438
Why can i watch all streams without paying?
PEW PEW PEW
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 00:17:30
February 26 2012 00:15 GMT
#4439
On February 26 2012 09:09 Xenocide_EU wrote:
Why can i watch all streams without paying?


This is working for me too. The twitch.tv streams a and b seem to be free to watch for me...

The other streams want me to subscribe though. Oh well

Edit: Hopefully this doesn't count as "posting restreams" since they're the official streams on twitch. lol
good vibes only
standup
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia1 Post
February 26 2012 00:21 GMT
#4440
On February 26 2012 09:09 Xenocide_EU wrote:
Why can i watch all streams without paying?


I can watch every stream without paying aswell O.o
Also decided to check (cause for some reason twitch doesn't want to say) that are 866 viewers watching the main mlg arena stream.
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