• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:01
CET 06:01
KST 14:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners9Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!33$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1552 users

New KSL League, $15,000 in Prizes! ; oGs Withdraws - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
February 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#61
Yay Khaldor Starcraft League returns! :D
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#62
A Korean only event with a sub fee in order to "support the Korean teams." Just seems wrong to me. I really really really dislike this "us vs. them" attitude and stuff like this just further enforces that. I'm a fan of equality, not singling out certain people and trying to help them while ignoring others.

No thanks, but good luck.
Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
February 09 2012 19:17 GMT
#63
Koreans actually have it pretty crappy. They basically have 2 tournaments to compete in (3 if you separate code A/S), despite the fact that 80% of them are better than top foreigners. The money made to skill ratio in korea is so much lower, they need more tournaments.
Speak the word...
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 09 2012 19:44 GMT
#64
On February 10 2012 04:17 Ry-Masta-T wrote:
Koreans actually have it pretty crappy. They basically have 2 tournaments to compete in (3 if you separate code A/S), despite the fact that 80% of them are better than top foreigners. The money made to skill ratio in korea is so much lower, they need more tournaments.


Your argument would be made more powerful if not for the large number of Koreans that participate in foreign tournaments. A Korean won 4 of the 5 MLG events they were invited to and came in second at Orlando. A Korean had a chance to win the main IPL3 event (but lost a ZvZ to Stephano). Won Blizzcon in '10 and '11. Won Dreamhack Winter '11. Won BOTH seasons of NASL. Won WCG '11. If Koreans weren't winning (and getting in the money, as to use a poker phrase) I could see that. As is, sorry. If a middling Korean wants more money they have various options in other teams that can put more money into their players.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 09 2012 20:57 GMT
#65
On February 10 2012 04:17 Ry-Masta-T wrote:
Koreans actually have it pretty crappy. They basically have 2 tournaments to compete in (3 if you separate code A/S), despite the fact that 80% of them are better than top foreigners. The money made to skill ratio in korea is so much lower, they need more tournaments.

There's more than that.

You have the GSL, you have the Korean Weekly, you have the KSL, and you have the EWM.

On top of that there are plenty of non-region locked tournaments that are purely online that Koreans can play in.

Top that off with Korean Invites to a lot of tournaments and you have quite a few opportunities.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
February 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#66
good for the teams to earn some money
UKSCgAn
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
February 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#67
Gonna be awesome.

Really good to see some more monetary support for Korean teams.
MVP HWAITING!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 09 2012 22:32 GMT
#68
aww no 2v2, well its a korean event so thats as expected. Like before nice to see more tournaments in korea and goodluck with your new format.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
February 09 2012 23:45 GMT
#69
On February 10 2012 03:50 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 03:46 Canucklehead wrote:
On February 10 2012 03:42 pPingu wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:33 Eee wrote:
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.


Don't think there is some bad blood between them since he is translating for supernova at iem sao paulo


That is what I'm wondering about. Why is he translating for nova when the sk/ogs partnership is over? SK.Supernova incoming?

because reis is a boss?
i would like to read spunkys statement thou


It was a bit indirect, but it gave me the feeling that something didnt go as planned.
Our partnership with eSahara is more like what we had with sk-gaming during 2011. Although our business partnership did end a way I did not want it to towards the end with sk-gaming
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 10 2012 03:03 GMT
#70
On February 10 2012 07:32 FeyFey wrote:
aww no 2v2, well its a korean event so thats as expected. Like before nice to see more tournaments in korea and goodluck with your new format.

Yeah, the KSL doesn't currently have any plans to involve 2v2 matches.

They're kind of a joke.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 31 2012 02:43 GMT
#71
ZeNEX is leading the league with a +10 W/L differential. o_O

Who would've thunk it?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
March 31 2012 03:04 GMT
#72
ogs: it's a 15k prize pool? shit we better withdraw
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
March 31 2012 03:31 GMT
#73
awww a pity that TSL, OGS and most imptly, Slayers aren't in this. Still, a very awesome league to watch whenever i'm free.
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 82
HKG_Chickenman57
davetesta55
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 178
RuFF_SC2 155
ProTech117
Dota 2
monkeys_forever352
NeuroSwarm98
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 606
Other Games
summit1g16270
tarik_tv13444
C9.Mang0463
WinterStarcraft250
FrodaN156
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1062
Counter-Strike
PGL132
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt504
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
4h 59m
IPSL
12h 59m
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
LAN Event
12h 59m
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
BSL 21
14h 59m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
17h 59m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 6h
IPSL
1d 12h
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
LAN Event
1d 12h
BSL 21
1d 14h
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.