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On December 04 2011 03:07 Prplppleatr wrote:
Lol wow...was looking around at brackets and the article and what not...Just realized this is in Ontario, CALIFORNIA, not canada...mentioned it on a chat and several others thought the same...wonder if this may be another possible reason for the lack of attendance
There's 700 people wandering around Canada now cold, lost, completely out of place in the real world trying to find an e-sports event that's happening thousands of miles away in California 
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I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA.
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On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA.
I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event!
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On December 05 2011 01:18 Young_Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA. I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event!
Someone needs a diapey change.........
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well, you cannot make a good time for NA, EU and KOR, and considering it's the north american starleague and two koreans are in the finals, I can understand that EU might get the butt end of the stick in terms of scheduling.
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On December 05 2011 01:19 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 01:18 Young_Gun wrote:On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA. I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event! Someone needs a diapey change.........
Pfff you add nothing to the discussion so shut it and dont go insult other posters. Fool.
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On December 05 2011 01:18 Young_Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA. I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event!
Seriously just stop talking. No one gives that you think the NASL absolutely hates their non-US audience. Bring your ignorance elsewhere. If you actually believe they schedule their events around the concept of "not letting non-Americans watch at a reasonable hour" then just don't watch it and no one will give a shit.
The production for the event on the second day was phenomenal even though the first day had its hiccups. If it weren't then it wouldn't be bringing in 30k+ viewers consistently.
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In a world market, you can't count on everyone being happy with scheduling. They're not doing it to spite you, so get over it.
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Im really sad by the time as well. Last season the semifinals started 5 hours earlier, and the finals right after that what was like under 1,5h.
I blame hon. They could not start earlier this season because of that rubbish game.
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I think it's at least reasonable to assume that, given the boycott from the Korean teams, their target audience is mainly people from the US and from Europe. I of course understand that the priority in scheduling is given to American audiences, but it is possible to schedule the event without taking completely the opportunity for Europeans to watch the finals. Many tournaments in the West Coast already understood that and scheduled their tournaments accordingly. I mean, they just needed to make the finals happen 2~3 hours before what they're doing now, I'm not sure that's asking much...
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Rofl the GSL doesn't cater to its large American audience either. NASL is the North American Star League. Naturally it is going to have its time cater to that timezone, just like GSL caters to the Korean timezones. Seriously this isn't rocket science...
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Great write-up! Grand Final will be fantastic!
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On December 05 2011 01:48 xlava wrote:
Rofl the GSL doesn't cater to its large American audience either. NASL is the North American Star League. Naturally it is going to have its time cater to that timezone, just like GSL caters to the Korean timezones. Seriously this isn't rocket science...
You do realize that the small change I proposed would greatly benefit the NASL itself right? Not to mention that for example MLG Anaheim were in the same timezone and were perfectly watchable from Europe. It's idiotic not to adapt in little details just to make a stand that this is the North American Star League and lose a lot of people who are willing to watch the tournament finals in the process.
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On December 05 2011 01:28 Young_Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 01:19 farvacola wrote:On December 05 2011 01:18 Young_Gun wrote:On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA. I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event! Someone needs a diapey change......... Pfff you add nothing to the discussion so shut it and dont go insult other posters. Fool.
And your first 9 posts go to telling others to shut it?? Or you have 40posts over 6 accounts because of being banned for over reacting. Hes giving feedback so chillaxe. I myself think NASL has improved quite a bit over the year. They have went from unwatchable to watchable. Lets just hope the production carries over to next season.
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On December 05 2011 01:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
well, you cannot make a good time for NA, EU and KOR, and considering it's the north american starleague and two koreans are in the finals, I can understand that EU might get the butt end of the stick in terms of scheduling.
I doubt that many koreans are watching these events. Its a decision from NASL we have to live with though and if they don't want an european audience (And I think its safe to say it when the matches start at like 3AM. Those very very few people that are awake and want to watch SC2 should be almost meaningless), I just don't watch.
If this works out for them, ok, but I will not change my whole sleeping shedule on a weekend for some SC2 matches. When the viewercount is low enough they might consider to change the times for NASL season 3.
Compared to season 2 so far its a dissapointment for me. Lots and lots of boring matches at the start so I did not even bother to watch them at all anymore, then a final event I can't watch too.
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the sceduling is kind of ok, just gotta stay up till 9am everyday. npnp :/
Eastcoast NA tours are a lot better in that regard :D
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On December 05 2011 01:19 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 01:18 Young_Gun wrote:On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA. I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event! Someone needs a diapey change.........
ROFL. Kid can't watch the tournament so he says " I hope this will be their last event." Hilariously pathetic.
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On December 05 2011 01:18 Young_Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 00:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
I'm baffled as to why would they schedule the finals at such a horrible time for Europeans. If you're "lucky" and live in either Portugal or the UK you get the finals at 3 AM, if you live more to the east you get an even worse hour. Why would they do that? MLG Anaheim wasn't nearly as bad and it was in the same timezone as Ontario CA. I live in the UK and it looks like I will skip this final due to the 3 AM schedule. This is more awfull production from NASL that shows absolute contempt for non US audience. I hope this will be their last event!
Sadly, they already announced NASL Season 3...now with Tribes Ascend!
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On December 04 2011 06:46 Xalorian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 03:20 nihlon wrote:On December 04 2011 01:26 Xalorian wrote:
It's just my opinion but...
It's funny how TL articles shit on so many less favorite players these day, even an event this time, for some reasons. It start to be annoying. And is it a final preview or a season recap? Because there's not much about the final...
I wana read hype or in-depth preview of incoming match in a preview., not criticism of the qualification event that already ended.
It's a poor article, at least for me.
I think such an article would have been fine if it were published after season 2 have ended or as a separate article. Having it as a preview of the final weekend is pretty bad. Yes, exactly, that's what I meant. TL articles are becoming that more and more for some reason. The thing with EG House (that was ridiculous), now shitting on the qualification of an event, one day before the final... That's seriously not what I want to read when I go on TL and I don't think i'm the only one. Seriously, another one like that and I think that I will just stop to read articles from TL except for the probably incoming TSL4... because i'm sure that they will be just hyping this one and nothing else.
So you want fluff? If the players are not good, then they deserve to be criticized. If tournaments are not run well, they deserve to be bashed on. I am glad TL tells it like it is without the fluff and sugar coating. Welcome to journalism.
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