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QXC departs FXO?

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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 10:26:27
December 01 2011 08:24 GMT
#1
QXC just posted this on his twitter which is an attempt at masking "Goodbye FXO" using Korean character input.

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Edit: To clarify, the Korean characters in his tweet, when entered into a keyboard, produce the following English letters:

G
O
O
D
B
Y
E

F
X
O
P
E
N

Edit #2: QXC has now officially transferred to Complexity, according to the article below:
ESFI World has confirmed that Kevin "qxc" Riley, the North American Terran StarCraft 2 player, has been transferred from FXOpen E-Sports to Complexity Gaming. FXO's general manager Joshua "BoSs" Dentrinos verified the news.


Source: http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/fxo-transfers-qxc-complexity

Could a mod please edit the thread title to reflect the article above?
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
December 01 2011 08:27 GMT
#2
Kinda sad seeing FXO being korean only. Great for koreans though as they have brought so many over to MLGs etc.
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Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
December 01 2011 08:27 GMT
#3
Well, that's pretty big.

I can only assume one of three things from this provided it's true

1. FXO dropped his contract due to his limited availability for LAN event attendance
2. He let his contract drop due to the potential to sign with a different team
3. He's just a busy college kid and couldn't afford to be a pro gamer just right now

No matter what this will turn out to be pretty big news if it's legit. Might want to make the OP a bit longer though so it stays open
Holy_KR
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)43 Posts
December 01 2011 08:27 GMT
#4
if that's true that's kinda unfortunate. KOREANS get on this NOW :D!!!
Jesus wept
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#5
how did you figure that out?
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
December 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#6
I'd say the tweet before that kinda reinforces it.

"It's been fun but nothing lasts forever. A new era approaches..."
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#7
player contracts typically end around the end of the year.. so this kinda stuff is happening atm :O
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:33:15
December 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#8
BoSs, if you read this...please do everything in your power to keep OpTiKzErO and SLoG. They're all you have left! THEY'RE LIKE FAMILY TO YOU DAMMIT!

EDIT: And mOoNan, even though he isn't active right now.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
December 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#9
Good luck in the future Qxc <3
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 01 2011 08:29 GMT
#10
On December 01 2011 17:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
how did you figure that out?


Did you read the OP at all?

If it's true, good luck to qxc!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 01 2011 08:29 GMT
#11
Darn, beat me to the realization.

Still, best of luck to QXC wherever he goes to.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 01 2011 08:29 GMT
#12
EG_QXC... make it happen imo. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I remember Incontrol a few months ago mentioning how a lot of contracts were going to be up in the winter time. I imagine there'll be a lot of these types of threads.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 01 2011 08:30 GMT
#13
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 01 2011 08:30 GMT
#14
On December 01 2011 17:29 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
how did you figure that out?


Did you read the OP at all?

If it's true, good luck to qxc!

i read it before he edited it to actually include some content. thanks for being a dick though.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 01 2011 08:30 GMT
#15
Liquidqxc incoming?

I'm sorry, I had to do it.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 01 2011 08:31 GMT
#16
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

I don't think FXO has to worry about anything money-wise >_>
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
December 01 2011 08:31 GMT
#17
On December 01 2011 17:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
how did you figure that out?


I read Korean, and immediately noticed his tweet was just a jumble of incoherent characters. Figured the only reason would be to mask a hidden message.
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 01 2011 08:32 GMT
#18
On December 01 2011 17:28 RPR_Tempest wrote:
BoSs, if you read this...please do everything in your power to keep OpTiKzErO and SLoG. They're all you have left! THEY'RE LIKE FAMILY TO YOU DAMMIT!


What about Moonan?
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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
December 01 2011 08:32 GMT
#19
Qxc is the most entertaining player other than Destiny. I hope he gets a good deal with a new team.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 01 2011 08:32 GMT
#20
On December 01 2011 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

I don't think FXO has to worry about anything money-wise >_>


It doesn't matter if they're rich, just because you're rich doesn't mean you care less about losing money.

You don't make a billion dollars by wasting money.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 01 2011 08:33 GMT
#21
End of the year. Lots of contracts ended around the one year anniversary of SC2 and probably now at the end of the year. Not a surprise seeing as FXO is doing so well as a Korean-based team, having Leenock winning MLG and in the finals of the GSL while Oz, asd, Gumiho, etc. are also doing very well in GSL.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 01 2011 08:34 GMT
#22
On December 01 2011 17:32 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

I don't think FXO has to worry about anything money-wise >_>


It doesn't matter if they're rich, just because you're rich doesn't mean you care less about losing money.

You don't make a billion dollars by wasting money.


Unless you're the CEO of a major corporation in America.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
December 01 2011 08:36 GMT
#23
QXGQXC next lol!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 01 2011 08:36 GMT
#24
I really hope he's not leaving the pro-scene.

There are few moments that have given me nerd-chills like his all-kill against IM in the GSTL, I must have watched that VoD like 4 times in one day, after I saw it live. I couldn't believe it happened. I met qxc at MLG Raleigh, and he's such a nice guy. Best of luck wherever you end up man.
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FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
December 01 2011 08:36 GMT
#25
On December 01 2011 17:28 RPR_Tempest wrote:
BoSs, if you read this...please do everything in your power to keep OpTiKzErO and SLoG. They're all you have left! THEY'RE LIKE FAMILY TO YOU DAMMIT!

EDIT: And mOoNan, even though he isn't active right now.


Karl works full time at the moment but we still got him. Moonan and SLoG will not leave. But moonan is studying radiology so he will take time.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 01 2011 08:38 GMT
#26
tbh I am surprised FXO hasn't become only a korean team yet. They have what 2 foreigners left? Wonder if they aren't going to resign with the other foreigners as well and just become a korean team. We shall see soon ^^
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 01 2011 08:38 GMT
#27
On December 01 2011 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

I don't think FXO has to worry about anything money-wise >_>


I don't think you could be more wrong. You should read more FXO stuff, like Boss' blog, pretty sure the eSports budget got a big cut and such.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
December 01 2011 08:38 GMT
#28
We need more of John Lennon Toto Destroyer!
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analyze
Profile Joined April 2011
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 09:00:45
December 01 2011 08:39 GMT
#29
Just a guess, he is going to Team compLexity
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
December 01 2011 08:40 GMT
#30
qxc is focusing on school so he can't really be a pro gamer. Its like College basketball vs NBA. Got to get out of college before you can commit to the NBA. Don't get me wrong hes a great player and will be when he finishes school but a established team with a Team house in Korea shouldn't have to pay someone a sallery to not be apart of the team.

my two cents anyway.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
December 01 2011 08:41 GMT
#31
Pretty incredible Qxc managed to be so competitive while going to such a tough school. Would make sense especially if he'll be enterting his thesis year (harvey mudd also has a thesis requirement like claremont and pomona right?)
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
December 01 2011 08:41 GMT
#32
Interesting chain of events, hmm coL.qxc incoming?

Go go Alliance.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 01 2011 08:42 GMT
#33
Boss just making room for FXO TargA imo.
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juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
December 01 2011 08:42 GMT
#34
Well hes prob had a good time in korea and could easily join a Korean team which would be badass. But gl qxc and stream more with fun chat sessions!!
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:43:04
December 01 2011 08:42 GMT
#35
On December 01 2011 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

I don't think FXO has to worry about anything money-wise >_>


I'm going to leave this here because it's a really awesome read but also it'll show you that FXO really aren't in the business of wasting money: http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/

I haven't seen QXC play in ages, wonder where he's going to go?
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
December 01 2011 08:42 GMT
#36
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 01 2011 08:43 GMT
#37
On December 01 2011 17:41 dooraven wrote:
Interesting chain of events, hmm coL.qxc incoming?



definitely
TL+ Member
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
December 01 2011 08:44 GMT
#38
On December 01 2011 17:30 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Liquidqxc incoming?

I'm sorry, I had to do it.


Wouldn't be that bad of a pick, he plays terran, the race liquid currently lacks besides Jinro. He is a very intresting player and he is pretty entertaining
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analyze
Profile Joined April 2011
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:52:45
December 01 2011 08:45 GMT
#39
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.


Aren't we all
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 01 2011 08:46 GMT
#40
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:48:52
December 01 2011 08:48 GMT
#41
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


Analyse works for Quantic and used to work for compLexity iirc
Go go Alliance.
Pwnergizer Bunny
Profile Joined July 2010
United States110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:48:21
December 01 2011 08:48 GMT
#42
On December 01 2011 17:39 analyze wrote:
Just an FYI, he is going to Team compLexity not leaving the pro scene so don't worry.


I remember someone saying analyze worked for compLexity at one point so Id believe him, good pick up if so.

Its like a ROOT Reunion
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analyze
Profile Joined April 2011
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:52:19
December 01 2011 08:48 GMT
#43
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
December 01 2011 08:48 GMT
#44
On December 01 2011 17:48 dooraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


Analyse works for Quantic and used to work for CompLexity iirc

Kay, good enough for me, then.

coL.qxc. Sounds pretty good.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 01 2011 08:49 GMT
#45
Eh, Qxc will be back playing after next semester, when he graduates.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 01 2011 08:49 GMT
#46
On December 01 2011 17:42 Rampager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

I don't think FXO has to worry about anything money-wise >_>


I'm going to leave this here because it's a really awesome read but also it'll show you that FXO really aren't in the business of wasting money: http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/

I haven't seen QXC play in ages, wonder where he's going to go?

¨
I was actually just reading the new blog post and i was planning on posting it, but definitely check it out. Really interesting read.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:50:58
December 01 2011 08:50 GMT
#47
FXO has a really unique relationship now as a team. Korean team sponsored by foreigners. Good thing FXO Korea is dominating right now.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:52:00
December 01 2011 08:50 GMT
#48
On December 01 2011 17:48 analyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


I used to work for coL here are my credentials:

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3174/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3155/
etc. if you need more proof go check news on their site


So...why are you spoiling their announcement if that is true? It is generally uncouth (and unprofessional) to announce hidden info if you are privileged to be in the know.
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Pwnergizer Bunny
Profile Joined July 2010
United States110 Posts
December 01 2011 08:51 GMT
#49
On December 01 2011 17:50 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:48 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


I used to work for coL here are my credentials:

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3174/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3155/
etc. if you need more proof go check news on their site


So...why are you spoiling their announcement if that is true? It is generally uncouth to announce hidden info if you are privileged to be in the know.


And what QXC is doing right now isn't spoiling at all?
Patch 1.1.4 Fixed an error where players were playing games with more then two bases on a certain map
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
December 01 2011 08:52 GMT
#50
On December 01 2011 17:51 Pwnergizer Bunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:50 TheAmazombie wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:48 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


I used to work for coL here are my credentials:

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3174/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3155/
etc. if you need more proof go check news on their site


So...why are you spoiling their announcement if that is true? It is generally uncouth to announce hidden info if you are privileged to be in the know.


And what QXC is doing right now isn't spoiling at all?


He said nothing about Col. at all.
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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
December 01 2011 08:52 GMT
#51
On December 01 2011 17:51 Pwnergizer Bunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:50 TheAmazombie wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:48 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


I used to work for coL here are my credentials:

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3174/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3155/
etc. if you need more proof go check news on their site


So...why are you spoiling their announcement if that is true? It is generally uncouth to announce hidden info if you are privileged to be in the know.


And what QXC is doing right now isn't spoiling at all?

His tweet says Goodbye FXOpen, not "Hello Complexity."
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 01 2011 08:52 GMT
#52
On December 01 2011 17:51 Pwnergizer Bunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:50 TheAmazombie wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:48 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:46 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:45 analyze wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:42 Indrium wrote:
I actually had no idea that FXO was down to 3 non koreans before this. Remarkable.

I obviously want the best for qxc and given that trend this would probably be a good move for him. Harvey Mudd is also hard as hell, so there's that. Based on every interview I've ever seen (and I've seen a ton of them) he's definitely going to keep playing so I'm not worried about that.

I'm just wondering where he'll go off to.



He is going to compLexity gaming...

You've said this twice, can you please provide a source?


I used to work for coL here are my credentials:

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3174/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3155/
etc. if you need more proof go check news on their site


So...why are you spoiling their announcement if that is true? It is generally uncouth to announce hidden info if you are privileged to be in the know.


And what QXC is doing right now isn't spoiling at all?

saying you are leaving a team, and announcing you are joining a team are not identical. besides, it doesnt sound like analyze speaks for complexity. take his words with a grain of salt.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
December 01 2011 08:53 GMT
#53
On December 01 2011 17:44 michielbrands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:30 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Liquidqxc incoming?

I'm sorry, I had to do it.


Wouldn't be that bad of a pick, he plays terran, the race liquid currently lacks besides Jinro. He is a very intresting player and he is pretty entertaining


I think he ticks a lot of Liquid boxes to be honest and would be a great addition.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 01 2011 08:57 GMT
#54
On December 01 2011 17:30 Xeris wrote:
FXO realized that it's just not financially viable to support non Korean players if they don't win. Sending players to LAN events to get top 32 at an MLG is a complete waste of money, no offense to any team ~~

Que the foreigners become irrelevant conversation and probe becoming sad again -_-;

I look forward to finding out where QXC hangs his hat next. He's definitely a highly entertaining player and a pretty crafty late game Terran.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2011 08:58 GMT
#55
I'm not surprised, their foreign team just hasn't been performing all that well and managing two teams is probably not what they wanted in the end.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
December 01 2011 08:59 GMT
#56
On December 01 2011 17:53 Xorphene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:44 michielbrands wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:30 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Liquidqxc incoming?

I'm sorry, I had to do it.


Wouldn't be that bad of a pick, he plays terran, the race liquid currently lacks besides Jinro. He is a very intresting player and he is pretty entertaining


I think he ticks a lot of Liquid boxes to be honest and would be a great addition.


yea, qxc and sase are 2 players that i have felt should be liquid for a while it just fits them imo however liquid cant always offer what a player might need (i.e. huk to eg) which imo is a good thing as it prevents a total monopoly where one team dominates the rest rather than what the scene has now. a bunch of teams that are all great in their own right
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
December 01 2011 09:01 GMT
#57
he says a new era is approaching, wouldn't that be unfitting if he's quitting sc2 or taking a break?
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gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
December 01 2011 09:02 GMT
#58
On December 01 2011 17:28 iNcontroL wrote:
player contracts typically end around the end of the year.. so this kinda stuff is happening atm :O


winter is coming
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 01 2011 09:02 GMT
#59
On December 01 2011 17:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not surprised, their foreign team just hasn't been performing all that well and managing two teams is probably not what they wanted in the end.


They keep players who are worth the investment oo~
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 01 2011 09:06 GMT
#60
man remember when qxc did the all kill? was so fking exciting. too bad he cant commit 100 to sc2 right now cuz of school. it's just nearly impossible to be legit in sc2 if you dont give 100 cuz the best people are giving 101 percent. people just keep getting better and better so it get tougher if you dont keep up.

at least fxo still has leenock.
HyperLimen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States278 Posts
December 01 2011 09:09 GMT
#61
On December 01 2011 18:02 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 17:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not surprised, their foreign team just hasn't been performing all that well and managing two teams is probably not what they wanted in the end.


They keep players who are worth the investment oo~


o_0

Be respectful of the bandana man!
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ulaw
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
December 01 2011 09:11 GMT
#62
This is sad, I'll have to pick a new favorite team when FXO has just started dominating the scene. T.T
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
December 01 2011 09:11 GMT
#63
Not too surprising. I don't doubt that qxc will be able to play his way onto a team, perhaps even FXO again, once he has the time available to commit to it. Maybe a smaller NA team in the meantime.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 01 2011 09:13 GMT
#64
On December 01 2011 18:09 HyperLimen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:02 Xeris wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not surprised, their foreign team just hasn't been performing all that well and managing two teams is probably not what they wanted in the end.


They keep players who are worth the investment oo~


o_0

Be respectful of the bandana man!


QXC is off at school, mostly studying over actually playing the game. Why would FXO resign him if he isn't playing all that much? He is a great player, but there is no need paying him and keeping him on the roster if you're not getting the most out of him, especially with how well Leenock and the former fOu clan is doing.
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NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
December 01 2011 09:15 GMT
#65
Saw that coming! D: I'm sure FXO will have a foreigner after a while, but no point in having one that havent posted results in such a long time..
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 01 2011 09:15 GMT
#66
On December 01 2011 18:09 HyperLimen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:02 Xeris wrote:
On December 01 2011 17:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not surprised, their foreign team just hasn't been performing all that well and managing two teams is probably not what they wanted in the end.


They keep players who are worth the investment oo~


o_0

Be respectful of the bandana man!


Especially since fnatic features worse players than qxc
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
December 01 2011 09:16 GMT
#67
ESFI reports he was transferred to Complexity. http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/fxo-transfers-qxc-complexity
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
December 01 2011 09:17 GMT
#68
at least he's got the all-kill and jedi robe to be remembered by :D
best of luck to you QXC, loved watching your games
i look forward to watching and hearing of your exploits after you finish university
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 01 2011 09:17 GMT
#69
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene
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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
December 01 2011 09:18 GMT
#70
as far as i know qxc was pretty inactive anyway lately. gl to him
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 01 2011 09:19 GMT
#71
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


FXO is doing better than they ever have. They have the National MLG champion and now he is in the biggest final you can be in for SC2. Not even mentioning Oz also getting to a semifinal, Gumiho/asd doing very well, and Choya being one of the best coaches in the scene.

They have come a long way from when they got beat up in the GSTL.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 01 2011 09:19 GMT
#72
On December 01 2011 18:16 Ansalem wrote:
ESFI reports he was transferred to Complexity. http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/fxo-transfers-qxc-complexity


Thanks for the info.

Good luck qxc and Complexity - should be a great team & pick-up!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
December 01 2011 09:21 GMT
#73
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 01 2011 09:21 GMT
#74
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Yeah FXO was always in the headlines. Recruiting players, setting up that team house in Malaysia (not sure what's happening with that :O), talking up massive future tournaments with huge prize pools etc, going to the GSTL and training in Korea as a team. But now all their Non Koreans are leaving and they're pretty quiet now apart from those small KOTH tournies, hardly hear anything from them.
Vasher_Pwnzer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States21 Posts
December 01 2011 09:23 GMT
#75
On December 01 2011 17:28 iNcontroL wrote:
player contracts typically end around the end of the year.. so this kinda stuff is happening atm :O

Buddy...why aren't you streaming??? I'm bored T.T
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 01 2011 09:26 GMT
#76
For some reason i thought QXC left ages ago. Must've got him mixed up with Sheth somehow. Oops lol.
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 01 2011 09:26 GMT
#77
Best of luck to qxc. He finishes school this year right (meaning this june or so)? I honestly think he'll be a beast once he is practicing sc2 full time, especially if he gets into a team house.
Von
Profile Joined May 2009
United States363 Posts
December 01 2011 09:29 GMT
#78
I'm a qxc fan. Always unique, aggressive, entertaining games from this guy.

With the right focus, time, and team he could easily be one of the top foreign Terrans IMO.

Hope he continues playing.

If its not fun I dont want it.
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
December 01 2011 09:34 GMT
#79
http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/fxo-transfers-qxc-complexity

coLqxc
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
December 01 2011 09:38 GMT
#80
On December 01 2011 18:16 Ansalem wrote:
ESFI reports he was transferred to Complexity. http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/fxo-transfers-qxc-complexity


Thank you for posting the information and a mod should add it to the post and change the title too so that it fits.
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
December 01 2011 09:43 GMT
#81
coL is becoming the old Root, who are we missing? KiwiKaki, Fayth and Slush right?
Go go Alliance.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
December 01 2011 09:45 GMT
#82
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


Very nice to have a manager interact with fans and share his though processes. Keep up the good work!
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
December 01 2011 09:45 GMT
#83
On December 01 2011 18:43 dooraven wrote:
coL is becoming the old Root, who are we missing? KiwiKaki, Fayth and Slush right?


Destiny? coL did try to buy the old Root over
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
December 01 2011 09:47 GMT
#84
On December 01 2011 18:43 dooraven wrote:
coL is becoming the old Root, who are we missing? KiwiKaki, Fayth and Slush right?


sheth also
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 01 2011 09:48 GMT
#85
Would be great if qxc went to coL, he'll still have that Korean connection so he could train over there if he wanted I guess, after he finishes his studies which is hopefully soon.

Zurachi
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada289 Posts
December 01 2011 09:48 GMT
#86
QXC HWAITING! Good luck with compLexity!!!!
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 01 2011 09:50 GMT
#87
On December 01 2011 17:28 RPR_Tempest wrote:
BoSs, if you read this...please do everything in your power to keep OpTiKzErO and SLoG. They're all you have left! THEY'RE LIKE FAMILY TO YOU DAMMIT!

EDIT: And mOoNan, even though he isn't active right now.

SLoG is living in the Korean house! As for Optik and Moonan, they're both at school, right?

I hope FXO is still open to foreign players who want to go to Korea and won't just be a pure Korean team.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 01 2011 09:50 GMT
#88
FXO should acquire the guys that left TSL.
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
December 01 2011 09:51 GMT
#89
This is a great signing for CoL.
Really hope the best for him. To me, the ROOT days are still the glory days, back when streaming was still something not many people did.

Anyone know when Kevin is done with school?
Play the games!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
December 01 2011 09:52 GMT
#90
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


but the idea of the malaysien team house was so nice when i saw the pictures damn that was nice xD
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 01 2011 09:53 GMT
#91
On December 01 2011 18:43 dooraven wrote:
coL is becoming the old Root, who are we missing? KiwiKaki, Fayth and Slush right?

DdoRo, Sheth, MajOr, Destiny
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
December 01 2011 09:57 GMT
#92
On December 01 2011 18:52 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


but the idea of the malaysien team house was so nice when i saw the pictures damn that was nice xD


I live there, I am aware its nice

I am currently weighing up the investment in Malaysia for e-sports. And will have more details on whether or not its a viable investment for the future. Given the nature of e-sports. Korean house is a much better investment at this point in time. And lets be frank, its working!
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 01 2011 09:57 GMT
#93
On December 01 2011 18:52 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


but the idea of the malaysien team house was so nice when i saw the pictures damn that was nice xD

Do the previously known as FoU members live in the Malaysian house or is that just for.. uh..

My question stands.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
December 01 2011 09:58 GMT
#94
Maybe qxc wants to focus on school now.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 10:00:30
December 01 2011 10:00 GMT
#95
On December 01 2011 18:58 KevinIX wrote:
Maybe qxc wants to focus on school now.


He has been "focusing" on school for a while now, it's simply that his contract is most likely ending (end of the year). He already got picked up by Complexity. Check previous page.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
December 01 2011 10:04 GMT
#96
Good luck to QXC. Your a boss son. IM all kill? Ya when your done with school kids are going to get destroyed.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 01 2011 10:07 GMT
#97
qxc? I've heard of him.

His GSTL AK is still one of the most memorable moments in 2011, but he's been awfully quiet lately. Here's to an absolutely bandanatastic (oh god I hate myself for inventing that word now) 2012!
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 01 2011 10:37 GMT
#98
So QXC to Complexity?
Interesting move, huge roster from Complexity.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
December 01 2011 10:39 GMT
#99
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


Have you been activetly looking for foreigners who are willing to do that? Looking for potential talent in the NA scene that would be willing to go to Korea? Or do you expect that players who want that model should just contact you?

Just wondering how you expect to get new players if you you are only looking at the big names who don't want to go to Korea and expecting them to all of a sudden go when their goal is to make money while they are good.

Also just a quick question while I am asking question. Why is Slog at the Gom house anyways. Shouldn't he be at the FXO house?
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 01 2011 10:48 GMT
#100
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
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On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.

Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.

Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


Fxopen has the right idea, and clearly its working.
But more importantly, more serious training models are going to become even more of an necessity, since BW players are entering the SC2 scene this coming year... Ironically more and more SC2 players now complain about teamhouses and wish to practice conveniently from their home, when the BW pro houses are known for no BS and grueling training regimen.
Guys like forgg are quickly approaching mvp levels even though seemingly lax in training until qualifying for GSL...BW pros shifting to SC2 who are still situated in pro bw houses will be scary indeed.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
December 01 2011 11:07 GMT
#101
On December 01 2011 18:18 Yaki wrote:
as far as i know qxc was pretty inactive anyway lately. gl to him


He's in his final year at one of the most demanding colleges in the U.S. I'm amazed that he's been able to remain as active as he has since September. My personal prediction is that he'll start doing very well once he graduates (in May) and has a month or two to practice intensively.
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redDuke
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia207 Posts
December 01 2011 11:10 GMT
#102
oh noes! well at least he's moved to another team i love. gl QXC!!
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ILoveAustralia
Profile Joined October 2011
Bangladesh104 Posts
December 01 2011 11:25 GMT
#103
I am wondering how the Korean team train with the non-korean teams? Comunication problems (im aware some players can speak korean but raised there?)
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
December 01 2011 14:08 GMT
#104
On December 01 2011 19:48 Lavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 18:21 FXOpen wrote:
On December 01 2011 18:17 Za7oX wrote:
FXO had big plans and it seemed like they were going to have a decent lineup. Earlier this year when someone left a team it used to be "i bet they're joining FXO!" but know FXO seemed to have given up on the foreign scene


Not really. I am still punching money into the Malaysian scene, and ultimately south east asia. I have lan events here in KL to warm up for our international events to be held here to get logistics and finances right.
Its just that i had my little sick spell which flat lined everything. And I still have my ins and outs of sickness but its getting better.


Also after alot of trial and error, I have realised what i expect from an investment in e-sports and go on those rules. And e-sports is developed enough now to not require 'charity' investment.

Our KR team is actively requiring. We have tear and 2 other new members recently who are being trained up. On a model designed by the KR scene and adjustments by FXO, which is proving to be working. It was very difficult to get foreigners to comply with this model. It might not be for everyone, but its proven to work so its what we use. So we will look for players who can be involved in that model.


Fxopen has the right idea, and clearly its working.
But more importantly, more serious training models are going to become even more of an necessity, since BW players are entering the SC2 scene this coming year... Ironically more and more SC2 players now complain about teamhouses and wish to practice conveniently from their home, when the BW pro houses are known for no BS and grueling training regimen.
Guys like forgg are quickly approaching mvp levels even though seemingly lax in training until qualifying for GSL...BW pros shifting to SC2 who are still situated in pro bw houses will be scary indeed.


Forgg has been playing alot of SC2 for a full year according to Jinro. He is good, but I still tink that mvp looks alot better over all. I dont think forgg should be used as an example of why BW pro's are so much better (he has played for a year guys, think about it, and how many games has he shown against the best players in the world?). The whole elephant in the room argument is bullshit actually. Mediocre WC3 players like Naniwa would never be able to compete with the best if that argument was true.

FXO is doing something right. They have a ton of good players. But I think they would reach the top in a short time if they tried to use the full potential of a teamhouse like Slayers (from what I have read they are the only team that tries to solve differents problems/aspects of the metagame as a team.... they gather and discuss issues properly). With young talent like Leenock, they can easily become THE team if they do it right.

But until we get full BW teams over, or korean teams that actually adopt the true BW team model (Like Slayers. Remember that they became the over all strongest sc2 team very fast, and they started out with no names), I still think we will see players like Stephano owning everyone, even though he only practices 4-6 hours a day (alone). The current korean sc2 team house model is flawed for most teams. Yes, people get more motivated to play more if everyone around them plays... but the true potential for a team house is so much more.

Since the koreans have been at the forefront of mechanics from the start. We have often seen foreigners overcome it with strategy. So I hoped that western team houses actually would try a western model and focus on strategy. Work together to overcome metagame problems and stay ahead of the curve... ofcourse a terran, zerg or toss would dislike to work out strats that would break the current metagame for their race if they worked alone... but as a team you can try to stay ahead of the curve. Really focus strategy. But when I hear things from EG's teamhouse like: IdrA and Demuslim doesnt practice alot together since they have the potential to get matched up against each other in a tournament (Yo incontrol, as the leader/captain, you shouldnt let players get away with shitty attitude like that. Force them to play and help each other with weaknesses in their play)

Anyways. I understand why FXO parted with QXC. They have a working team model. And I am sure they have no problems picking up foreigners as long as they will comply with that model. The only gripe I have with FXO now is that they have lost so much personality after they became a korean team. I thought a team like FXO that started out with players with a lot of personality would be better at marketing themselves. Turn it around Boss. FXO is just like any other korean team. All we see from them are the players playing their games at tournies. Generic interviews etc. (Korean players have alot to learn from MC when it comes to marketing themselves). In general korean players are better. But in general they are boring as personalities.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 14:10:29
December 01 2011 14:10 GMT
#105
Eh, I guess I should lock this since the other thread is more relevant.
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