EPTBut 2 fan favourites playing, so most people won't care :p
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So sad for Coca, he has so much talent
It was really stupid to do this, but the punishment is too harsh imo.
Coca forfeits Code S due to ESV weekly scandal - Page 62
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
But 2 fan favourites playing, so most people won't care :p € So sad for Coca, he has so much talent It was really stupid to do this, but the punishment is too harsh imo. | ||
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psychopat
Canada417 Posts
Hopefully it was just between the two players and not coming down from the coaches. I personally think it was limited to the players though. Not because of the reaction from the team but because we've seen games at places like MLG with Boxer vs MMA or things like that. Boxer could have moved up to code S and still lost, so I think he's on the up-and-up. | ||
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qetou
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On November 15 2011 21:50 karpo wrote: And mistakes are punished. I'm pretty sure most korean teams would react in a similar fashion. They are very strict and don't allow BS, simple as that. That's not punishment, that's called humiliation. If they think that what he did is very wrong, they should just part their ways with the player. That would be normal reaction. If they think it's a minor mistake, they could suspend him from team house for like a week and make him say sorry in public. Demoting him inside their team, kicking from the thouse and making him quit S (cmon, why would he himself do that, he was clearly told to do that by someone either from team or GSL staff)... he should just say fu to boxer, really. | ||
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ikarosprime
United States31 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On November 15 2011 21:58 qetou wrote: That's not punishment, that's called humiliation. If they think that what he did is very wrong, they should just part their ways with the player. That would be normal reaction. If they think it's a minor mistake, they could suspend him from team house for like a week and make him say sorry in public. Demoting him inside their team, kicking from the thouse and making him quit S (cmon, why would he himself do that, he was clearly told to do that by someone either from team or GSL staff)... he should just say fu to boxer, really. Do you know korean culture? What Coca did was humiliating for the team and for Boxer. Koreans take that very seriously. I prefer them keeping him and making him learn from his mistakes instead of kicking him out of the team as soon as he does something stupid. | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On November 15 2011 22:05 Azurues wrote: 2 idiots i must say. Are they not in the same house to communicate with each other rather than typing or something SlayerSCoCa. ByunPrime (aka GhostKingPrime). | ||
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kinglemon
Germany199 Posts
if people make a big deal out of the coca thing, they should make an even bigger one out of this why did demuslim even played this tourney ? | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On November 15 2011 21:55 clusen wrote: But 2 fan favourites playing, so most people won't care :p € So sad for Coca, he has so much talent It was really stupid to do this, but the punishment is too harsh imo. what exactly did demu/idra do wrong? One of them had a ESWC spot already and then played in another ESWC qualifier and forfeited? OH WAITIZZLE. | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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Hattori_Hanzo
Singapore1229 Posts
On November 15 2011 21:56 psychopat wrote: The last thing I expected when I clicked on the thread was to be given yet another reason to dislike EG but they somehow still pulled it off... Annoyed at Slayers too, although it looks like Boxer is taking it seriously and making an example out of Coca as a deterrent to everyone else. Hopefully it was just between the two players and not coming down from the coaches. I personally think it was limited to the players though. Not because of the reaction from the team but because we've seen games at places like MLG with Boxer vs MMA or things like that. Boxer could have moved up to code S and still lost, so I think he's on the up-and-up. Facts: Both Byun and CoCa are entered by their respective teams to play in the ESV to which other amateur/professional teams also compete in weekly and monthly matchups. The ESV has national TV syndication. Thus making the tournament serious buiness as teams attract and retain sponsors/advertisers/etc as a result of their team members (which conveinently has the sponsor's name/logo) weekly appearances despite the low prize pool. Anything that reduces the viewership thus harms everyone involved. Byun and CoCa not only publicly and openly colluded to fix a match (in progress), they submitted the evidence for all to see. Draw your own conclusions. _\o/_ | ||
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
On November 15 2011 21:58 qetou wrote: That's not punishment, that's called humiliation. If they think that what he did is very wrong, they should just part their ways with the player. That would be normal reaction. If they think it's a minor mistake, they could suspend him from team house for like a week and make him say sorry in public. Demoting him inside their team, kicking from the thouse and making him quit S (cmon, why would he himself do that, he was clearly told to do that by someone either from team or GSL staff)... he should just say fu to boxer, really. F U to BoxeR? ..... There are so many things wrong with that one sentence already :[ anyways, CoCa has to be punished, he got punished. Sad to see him go from Code S but..... every action has a consequence :[ | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Asfano
Norway17 Posts
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
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wbirdy
Singapore335 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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blamekilly
466 Posts
On November 15 2011 21:58 qetou wrote: That's not punishment, that's called humiliation. If they think that what he did is very wrong, they should just part their ways with the player. That would be normal reaction. If they think it's a minor mistake, they could suspend him from team house for like a week and make him say sorry in public. Demoting him inside their team, kicking from the thouse and making him quit S (cmon, why would he himself do that, he was clearly told to do that by someone either from team or GSL staff)... he should just say fu to boxer, really. SlayerS are doing it for Coca's own good, teaching him a life lesson and keeping the team's integrity intact.. He's not off the team, just out of Code S and training by himself out of the team house for right now. Even if he didn't leave Code S, there's no way he would've been allowed to play tomorrow. I bet you GOM would've come to a decision much much quicker if that were the case and they would probably ban him for at least 2 seasons. By taking the initiative to forfeit his Code S spot, he's admitting his guilt and is saying he's sorry for it. GOM might see that as a good enough punishment and let him return without further punishment. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
Match Fixing should be punished hard and it was in this case. These things ruin every competition. I hope both of them learned their lesson and we see them back in a couple of months or so. Btw. I find incorrect too, to suspend the player from the team. It's a somehow foolish mistake and he payed for it by losing his code S spot, which also means a lot of money (we talk about several thousand dollars), and his possibility to participate in tournaments in the next months (which also means a lot of money for a high level player like CoCa). To isolate him from the rest of the team is very brutal in social aspects. It really shows that Slayers Team is a hell of a competition right now! | ||
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