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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
November 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#41
On November 05 2011 14:12 smocca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 11:55 IPA wrote:
On November 05 2011 11:47 KawaiiRice wrote:
On November 05 2011 11:42 Megakenny wrote:
Im not a big fan of these "My goals changed and we parted ways" threads. Just tell the truth.


Good luck to Reign and Perfect though.

the truth is not your business, quit prying.
GL Perfect


The truth may not be our business but there's no denying the canned psuedo-statements from players and organizations are tiring, obscuring, and, frankly, absurd.

GL to BM toss.


I think it is the time of the year that contracts are expiring so you should probably get used to canned statements.

Not everything is about drama.


I have no interest in or desire for drama. I was mainly rallying for transparency and truthfulness. For instance: "We couldn't agree on my contract"; "I want to train in Korea but they would not support it"; etc. You can be truthful and still be classy and professional.

Instead we get these sterile announcements that sound like they were written by a "parting ways" algorithm.

This isn't a knock specifically on Perfect in any way, more just a comment on what I've seen with all of the player movement and "I'm leaving" threads. GL HF all.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
November 05 2011 05:34 GMT
#42
hes a good player. he will find a new team soon ; )
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 05 2011 05:40 GMT
#43
On November 05 2011 14:22 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 14:12 smocca wrote:
On November 05 2011 11:55 IPA wrote:
On November 05 2011 11:47 KawaiiRice wrote:
On November 05 2011 11:42 Megakenny wrote:
Im not a big fan of these "My goals changed and we parted ways" threads. Just tell the truth.


Good luck to Reign and Perfect though.

the truth is not your business, quit prying.
GL Perfect


The truth may not be our business but there's no denying the canned psuedo-statements from players and organizations are tiring, obscuring, and, frankly, absurd.

GL to BM toss.


I think it is the time of the year that contracts are expiring so you should probably get used to canned statements.

Not everything is about drama.


I have no interest in or desire for drama. I was mainly rallying for transparency and truthfulness. For instance: "We couldn't agree on my contract"; "I want to train in Korea but they would not support it"; etc. You can be truthful and still be classy and professional.

Instead we get these sterile announcements that sound like they were written by a "parting ways" algorithm.

This isn't a knock specifically on Perfect in any way, more just a comment on what I've seen with all of the player movement and "I'm leaving" threads. GL HF all.


Truth is: They separated to further secrecy amongst the only two involved parties.

troublesome I know ):
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worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 05:50:11
November 05 2011 05:40 GMT
#44
what did you do pokebunny!!!!


(also from the TT1 leaving fanatic thread... self prophetic :p

On November 02 2011 00:04 VTPerfect wrote:
Kinda sucks so many player shifts recently but i'm sure he'll find a good team soon GL Payam.


)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 17:10:34
November 05 2011 17:08 GMT
#45
On November 05 2011 11:42 Megakenny wrote:
Im not a big fan of these "My goals changed and we parted ways" threads. Just tell the truth.


Good luck to Reign and Perfect though.

No, it's actually generally the best way to put it. This happens with a lot of teams, including me and VT. Oftentimes both parties just agree on the best way to proceed and their future goals, so they just separate so they can find others that fit them better.

Maybe there is a slightly longer story, but I wouldn't assume it's just bullshit. When I left VT, they were looking to move into a full-time practice environment to compete internationally with Reign, and I couldn't commit to that kind of team (being in school).
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TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
November 05 2011 17:23 GMT
#46
Well ReIGN adds a toss but loses one, good luck finding a team!

On November 05 2011 11:49 firehand101 wrote:
why is 'future' in 'apostrophes'?


He was ReIGN.Future therefore the apostrophes.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
November 05 2011 22:03 GMT
#47
lol everyone thinks me and future are the same. but just to clarify this isnt the end of my Sc2 career etc
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#48
Aw... Best of luck man, I actually enjoyed watching you play
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Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
November 06 2011 07:21 GMT
#49
On November 06 2011 02:08 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 11:42 Megakenny wrote:
Im not a big fan of these "My goals changed and we parted ways" threads. Just tell the truth.


Good luck to Reign and Perfect though.

No, it's actually generally the best way to put it. This happens with a lot of teams, including me and VT. Oftentimes both parties just agree on the best way to proceed and their future goals, so they just separate so they can find others that fit them better.

Maybe there is a slightly longer story, but I wouldn't assume it's just bullshit. When I left VT, they were looking to move into a full-time practice environment to compete internationally with Reign, and I couldn't commit to that kind of team (being in school).


I understand that a friendly parting of ways does happen in many situations. However, I don't think this is one of them. You're obviously open about your parting ways with VT and the reasons behind it, Perfect isn't in the slightest and there hasn't been an official statement from RGN regarding the matter which strikes me as a slight bit off.

Either way, its not really a big deal, I'm not trying to dig for drama or anything even if it seems like I am. I have no business asking for a better explanation, as I'm not important at all in this.
dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
November 08 2011 17:40 GMT
#50
just curious when are you going to post your 400 words you know what i mean.
yes
zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
November 08 2011 17:42 GMT
#51
Well good luck to perfect and to Reign, but at least tell the truth. I doubt your "goals just changed" like that.. lol.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
November 08 2011 17:48 GMT
#52
On November 09 2011 02:40 dde wrote:
just curious when are you going to post your 400 words you know what i mean.

I been waiting too
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spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
November 08 2011 17:55 GMT
#53
solid toss and a pain in my ass on the ladder.. kids hot glgl
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RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
November 08 2011 18:03 GMT
#54
There's nothing wrong with wanting some more transparency in the SC2 scene. Compared to most athletic teams, SC2 teams have like 0 transparency. SC2 players are not unionized at all. Keeping contracts, salaries, and terms completely under NDA only hurts the players. The secrecy makes it easy for dirty teams to exploit new talent, and it also makes it easier for rich teams to poach star players.

It doesn't have anything to do with "minding your own business". Its about professionalizing the SC2 scene, and sticking up for player's rights.
SCPlato
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 18:24:18
November 08 2011 18:23 GMT
#55
On November 09 2011 03:03 RoboBob wrote:
There's nothing wrong with wanting some more transparency in the SC2 scene. Compared to most athletic teams, SC2 teams have like 0 transparency. SC2 players are not unionized at all. Keeping contracts, salaries, and terms completely under NDA only hurts the players. The secrecy makes it easy for dirty teams to exploit new talent, and it also makes it easier for rich teams to poach star players.

It doesn't have anything to do with "minding your own business". Its about professionalizing the SC2 scene, and sticking up for player's rights.



Contracts don't need to be public. They could form some kind of Pro players union to share information like that. Sharing with the general public has nothing to do with being professional or ensuring that teams and players aren't being exploited, it is just people wanting drama to talk about since 99.9% of the public don't need to worry about getting "exploited by dirty teams."

Also, Good luck finding a new team if that is what you decide to do Perfect.
All men are by nature equal, made all of the same earth by one Workman; and however we deceive ourselves, as dear unto God is the poor peasant as the mighty prince. -Plato
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 18:30:57
November 08 2011 18:30 GMT
#56
Yeah not sure why some people think all the info. involving player terminations or players leaving teams should be public knowledge. If a team/player wants to just give a brief summary such as what we hear "no longer in line with goals" etc then let them. You don't deserve to know the precise reason why a player left a team or why a team terminated a player.

Best of luck to Perfect! ^_^
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