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On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol
* left root
* left sixjax
* BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams
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On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol
Again lets hold what a SIXTEEN year old kid did against him in a scene that barely could be called professional at the time. I mean, when you go for a job interview would you want everything stupid that you did as a kid/teenager held against you?
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On September 05 2011 04:29 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol * left root * left sixjax * BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams
it doesn't matter.
unless he can get the teams recommending him, that will just leave a bad impression.
You go try switching between 5 jobs within a year and if they ever asked why, and you answered because you are looking for a better company, you won't get employed unless the companies you left recommend you
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I don't get why people are so angry. If you hate him you should be happy he's off sixjax. If you like him you should be happy he's off sixjax.
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On September 05 2011 04:32 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:29 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol * left root * left sixjax * BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams it doesn't matter. unless he can get the teams recommending him, that will just leave a bad impression. You go try switching between 5 jobs within a year and if they ever asked why, and you answered because you are looking for a better company, you won't get employed unless the companies you left recommend you
hey
if you're the best in that field then all the jobs will be lining up for you.
Major is one of the best players in the NA Scene. He will find a team and continue his career in SC2
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On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time
correct me if i am wrong, but ELO is based on tournament performances, right? so, tournaments are what we should basing his skill on, correct? except major's history consists mostly of low level tournament wins and some low level performances at biggies like MLG and some others. as i recall, he has never hit a high place in any major tournament. if he is one of the best in NA then you would expect to see some better results.
not sure why you are going so agro on this, i never said he was a bad player. all i said was that he has never had any major tournament wins.
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I like how it's Apollo sharing these news with us since hes on Dignitas. :D GL to Major though cause he has always been one of my favorite players-
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On September 05 2011 04:33 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:32 ETisME wrote:On September 05 2011 04:29 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol * left root * left sixjax * BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams it doesn't matter. unless he can get the teams recommending him, that will just leave a bad impression. You go try switching between 5 jobs within a year and if they ever asked why, and you answered because you are looking for a better company, you won't get employed unless the companies you left recommend you hey if you're the best in that field then all the jobs will be lining up for you. Major is one of the best players in the NA Scene. He will find a team and continue his career in SC2 Not true in the slightest. You are making it sound like every team will be wanting to sign him when in fact it will be very few. Doesn't matter how good you are if your past 'job' history is tarnished by things.
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On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time
Let's see Dan Marino, zero Super Bowl wins, Patrick Ewing zero NBA championships rings, Tony Gwynn zero World Series rings. Yet all 3 are considered some of the greatest players of all time in their sports and are on the Hall of Fame. Just saying sometimes you can be considered good even if you haven't won anything.
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On September 05 2011 04:33 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:32 ETisME wrote:On September 05 2011 04:29 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol * left root * left sixjax * BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams it doesn't matter. unless he can get the teams recommending him, that will just leave a bad impression. You go try switching between 5 jobs within a year and if they ever asked why, and you answered because you are looking for a better company, you won't get employed unless the companies you left recommend you hey if you're the best in that field then all the jobs will be lining up for you. Major is one of the best players in the NA Scene. He will find a team and continue his career in SC2
Doesn't matter how good you are at something if you're impossible to work with. Not saying that he is, just pointing out that being talented isn't a free card to act however you want to. Balotelli comes to mind, if you're into soccer.
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On September 05 2011 04:38 Slider954 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time Let's see Dan Marino, zero Super Bowl wins, Patrick Ewing zero NBA championships rings, Tony Gwynn zero World Series rings. Yet all 3 are considered some of the greatest players of all time in their sports and are on the Hall of Fame. Just saying sometimes you can be considered good even if you haven't won anything.
Comparing team sports with individual ones, really? Do I have to point out where that comparison fails?
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On September 05 2011 04:37 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time correct me if i am wrong, but ELO is based on tournament performances, right? so, tournaments are what we should basing his skill on, correct? except major's history consists mostly of low level tournament wins and some low level performances at biggies like MLG and some others. as i recall, he has never hit a high place in any major tournament. if he is one of the best in NA then you would expect to see some better results. not sure why you are going so agro on this, i never said he was a bad player. all i said was that he has never had any major tournament wins.
what?
look at his profile and check out the tournaments and tell me the people he beat to get 1st or second were low level players.
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On September 05 2011 04:33 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:32 ETisME wrote:On September 05 2011 04:29 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol * left root * left sixjax * BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams it doesn't matter. unless he can get the teams recommending him, that will just leave a bad impression. You go try switching between 5 jobs within a year and if they ever asked why, and you answered because you are looking for a better company, you won't get employed unless the companies you left recommend you hey if you're the best in that field then all the jobs will be lining up for you. Major is one of the best players in the NA Scene. He will find a team and continue his career in SC2
most big teams really care about the reputation, check out EG with all their videos,TL is another one, CoL seems extremely strict as well.
Will he get another team? maybe newly established ones that wants attention and publicity. would they get him to korea? doubt so
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On September 05 2011 04:32 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:29 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:26 DarkRise wrote:On September 05 2011 04:23 Sadistx wrote:
Thank god.
Juan deserves a better team. One that isn't affiliated with a shady penny auction site and one that will actually send him to Korea or at the very least ALL MLGs.
He's by far the best free agent in the Americas region right now. Any team that gets him should be considered lucky. LOL lucky? How so? Sponsor is all about public image, and what do you think the public think of him? He was kicked out of ROOT and now released for SixJax. Don't even get me started on his BW History lol * left root * left sixjax * BW foreign clans were a joke and can't be compared to SC2 teams it doesn't matter. unless he can get the teams recommending him, that will just leave a bad impression. You go try switching between 5 jobs within a year and if they ever asked why, and you answered because you are looking for a better company, you won't get employed unless the companies you left recommend you
TBH it is really nothing like 5 different jobs within a year.
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On September 05 2011 04:39 Hittegods wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:38 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time Let's see Dan Marino, zero Super Bowl wins, Patrick Ewing zero NBA championships rings, Tony Gwynn zero World Series rings. Yet all 3 are considered some of the greatest players of all time in their sports and are on the Hall of Fame. Just saying sometimes you can be considered good even if you haven't won anything. Comparing team sports with individual ones, really? Do I have to point out where that comparison fails?
Not comparing the sports at all, I'm simply pointing the the difference in perceptions in how people say a player is good or not.
And if you want a individual sport, I'll give you Phil Mickelson in golf, before he won his 1st major, was still considered one of the best golfers in the world.
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On September 05 2011 04:45 Slider954 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:39 Hittegods wrote:On September 05 2011 04:38 Slider954 wrote:On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time Let's see Dan Marino, zero Super Bowl wins, Patrick Ewing zero NBA championships rings, Tony Gwynn zero World Series rings. Yet all 3 are considered some of the greatest players of all time in their sports and are on the Hall of Fame. Just saying sometimes you can be considered good even if you haven't won anything. Comparing team sports with individual ones, really? Do I have to point out where that comparison fails? Not comparing the sports at all, I'm simply pointing the the difference in perceptions in how people say a player is good or not. And if you want a individual sport, I'll give you Phil Mickelson in golf, before he won his 1st major, was still considered one of the best golfers in the world.
And there were tons of people who said you couldn't call him one of the best until he managed to win a major.
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On September 05 2011 04:42 pbjsandwich wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 04:37 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:28 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:24 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:22 pbjsandwich wrote:On September 05 2011 04:21 dAPhREAk wrote:On September 05 2011 04:14 pbjsandwich wrote:
all you have to do is look at the sidebar to see how good Major is unfortunately, he doesnt have any major tournament wins. if that's how you're judging a player's skill then you're doing it wrong ummm... how am i supposed to judge his skill if not his performance against other good players in a tournament format? do u realize how hard it is to win a major tournament? I don't think anyone considers major a top player in the scene but in terms of the NA scene he is one of the best. getting rank 4 in the ELO rating is impressive and that's how you should judge him. He's a great player and is getting better all the time correct me if i am wrong, but ELO is based on tournament performances, right? so, tournaments are what we should basing his skill on, correct? except major's history consists mostly of low level tournament wins and some low level performances at biggies like MLG and some others. as i recall, he has never hit a high place in any major tournament. if he is one of the best in NA then you would expect to see some better results. not sure why you are going so agro on this, i never said he was a bad player. all i said was that he has never had any major tournament wins. what? look at his profile and check out the tournaments and tell me the people he beat to get 1st or second were low level players.
not impressed. i won't clutter this thread anymore though. you obviously think he is great and i will leave you to your opinion.
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On September 05 2011 04:33 zzdd wrote:
I don't get why people are so angry. If you hate him you should be happy he's off sixjax. If you like him you should be happy he's off sixjax.
Well, as in all thread, people are going at each other just for the sake of going at each other.
Reminds me of two broodlords shooting their broodlings at each other's broodlings,
even though the battle has ended and nothing is left of it. ^^"
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literally second in a TL Open and this guy is not impressed
that's hilarious.
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It seems to me like Major gets screwed over, and he doesn't like it. If I was promised by my team twice that I was going to go to Korea, and then it never happened, I would be a bit frustrated.
That said, Major has a bit of an attitude, but it's not like everyone is treating him with the greatest consideration, respect, and holiness and he's just being evil. In fact, if that's the case with anyone, it's Idra, and people just say "Oh, that's just idra. keke <3" But with Major, oh no, he's made out to be a devil when he does similar things. Not very fair imo :S.
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