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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 22 2011 13:22 GMT
#641
On July 22 2011 22:19 turamn wrote:
I've read two pages in this thread and haven't read a "SHETH TO LIQUID !!!" post. I'm surprised.

But in all seriousness, the writing was on the wall.


Check again, there are plenty.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
July 22 2011 13:22 GMT
#642
also, wow, what the fuck. thanks for the GSTL spoilers in a completely unrelated thread. fuck
Stijn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 13:25:00
July 22 2011 13:24 GMT
#643
On July 22 2011 22:20 iansanew wrote:
hard to support a player who doesn't want to reach his potential.


*sigh* There's other ways of improving than what FXO's doing. If Sheth felt like it wasn't working out for him like this, who are you to judge?
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Dietch
Profile Joined August 2010
France45 Posts
July 22 2011 13:25 GMT
#644
It was obvious since Sheth came back to USA. Now it's official that's all I guess.
A man's gonna do what a man's gonna do !
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
July 22 2011 13:26 GMT
#645
I was surprised it didn't happen before. As an organization, you can't invest a small fortune on setting up a team-house and paying trips for Korea to all your players, just to find one of them is not committed enough to this project. Sheth is a good player, but sadly, he will never become one of the best if he refuses the team-house training method. Just look at qxc, he couldn't train for months because of him studying abroad. Thanks to his hard work in Korea, we are seeing again the baller terran he was before.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Switchb4ck
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2 Posts
July 22 2011 13:26 GMT
#646
FXO is a great team, and Sheth is an amazing player. Sometimes things just dont work out. I hope that FXO can continue to do great things and to Sheth, keep up the work and itll be fine.
Multiply and Conquer
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
July 22 2011 13:29 GMT
#647
On July 22 2011 15:35 DreamScaR wrote:
Sheth to Reign? Calling it now.


Haha, I was just about to say that too. Good call.
They would then be in possession of the world's underachieving Zerg and Protoss in Sheth and Kiwikaki. All they need now is Select
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 22 2011 13:29 GMT
#648
Sad to see Sheth part ways with FXO but both parties involved felt this was needed so GL to Sheth and FXO in the future I will continue to root for both!
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EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
July 22 2011 13:29 GMT
#649
On July 22 2011 22:22 turamn wrote:
also, wow, what the fuck. thanks for the GSTL spoilers in a completely unrelated thread. fuck


To best honest its a talk about the Team...
so its a little bit expected.
Plus its just GSTL take a chill brohun,
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
July 22 2011 13:30 GMT
#650
On July 22 2011 22:19 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 22:16 cunningstunt wrote:
On July 22 2011 22:14 c0ldfusion wrote:
I don't understand why people keep bashing Sheth for leaving Korea early.

He explained very clearly on SotG why he couldn't stay.


I didnt manage to watch SotG this week, could you explain why please?


It wasn't the SotG this week, it was the week before I believe.

He said that something went wrong with the flight schedule even though everything was paid for.

If he didn't leave a bit earlier, he wouldn't be able to see his family before MLG.

sounds like a legitimate reason to f up your career. Seeing family > Job ?

I guess every1 has it's priorities.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
July 22 2011 13:33 GMT
#651
On July 22 2011 22:26 legaton wrote:
I was surprised it didn't happen before. As an organization, you can't invest a small fortune on setting up a team-house and paying trips for Korea to all your players, just to find one of them is not committed enough to this project. Sheth is a good player, but sadly, he will never become one of the best if he refuses the team-house training method. Just look at qxc, he couldn't train for months because of him studying abroad. Thanks to his hard work in Korea, we are seeing again the baller terran he was before.


Not everyone is best in team house situations its a myth and a bad one. Look at players like Mondragon from BW and Whitera then and before. Both shining examples of top caliber players without a team house. Naniwa is another example of someone who practices hard and is just hard on himself he can beat any player in the world he is put against and he did it on his own.
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
July 22 2011 13:33 GMT
#652
after all the drama of players leaving lately, (not only puma, but the whole destiny incident) it's nice to see this handled professionally. It will be interesting to see if he joins another big name team, and makes those powerhouses stronger, or if he joins a lesser known team.
I'm a gooner.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
July 22 2011 13:35 GMT
#653
good luck, but this is obvious since i didnt want to support his team in korea.
if play random i can't call any race imba?
KryptoStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
England377 Posts
July 22 2011 13:38 GMT
#654
On July 22 2011 22:22 turamn wrote:
also, wow, what the fuck. thanks for the GSTL spoilers in a completely unrelated thread. fuck


Are you trolling? You realise I spoiled FXO results, and hey FXO is in the thread title...but yeah man it's totally un-related. It annoys me when people complain about spoiled results of certain things regardless of the fact they read sites like teamliquid (which discuss all-things starcraft) and various streams where, yes you guessed people discuss the latest news, and you know FXO in GSTL is the big thing atm.
사랑해요
Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
July 22 2011 13:39 GMT
#655
On July 22 2011 22:33 CajunMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 22:26 legaton wrote:
I was surprised it didn't happen before. As an organization, you can't invest a small fortune on setting up a team-house and paying trips for Korea to all your players, just to find one of them is not committed enough to this project. Sheth is a good player, but sadly, he will never become one of the best if he refuses the team-house training method. Just look at qxc, he couldn't train for months because of him studying abroad. Thanks to his hard work in Korea, we are seeing again the baller terran he was before.


Not everyone is best in team house situations its a myth and a bad one. Look at players like Mondragon from BW and Whitera then and before. Both shining examples of top caliber players without a team house. Naniwa is another example of someone who practices hard and is just hard on himself he can beat any player in the world he is put against and he did it on his own.


I don't understand how citing examples of players who excel on their own is evidence that they couldn't/wouldn't be better in a team house.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 13:39:54
July 22 2011 13:39 GMT
#656
On July 22 2011 22:33 CajunMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 22:26 legaton wrote:
I was surprised it didn't happen before. As an organization, you can't invest a small fortune on setting up a team-house and paying trips for Korea to all your players, just to find one of them is not committed enough to this project. Sheth is a good player, but sadly, he will never become one of the best if he refuses the team-house training method. Just look at qxc, he couldn't train for months because of him studying abroad. Thanks to his hard work in Korea, we are seeing again the baller terran he was before.


Not everyone is best in team house situations its a myth and a bad one. Look at players like Mondragon from BW and Whitera then and before. Both shining examples of top caliber players without a team house. Naniwa is another example of someone who practices hard and is just hard on himself he can beat any player in the world he is put against and he did it on his own.


no u are totally wrong, given that korean have training houses u can see many korean dominating foreigner tournaments latetly.

its not the same to be working by your own than have a schedule and stick to it.

whitera, naniwa those u mentioned, are good players but not high caliber at korean ones.

at next MLG u will see korean dominating and no foreigner left in the round 4, or maybe in round 8
if play random i can't call any race imba?
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
July 22 2011 13:45 GMT
#657
On July 22 2011 22:33 CajunMan wrote:
Not everyone is best in team house situations its a myth and a bad one. Look at players like Mondragon from BW and Whitera then and before. Both shining examples of top caliber players without a team house. Naniwa is another example of someone who practices hard and is just hard on himself he can beat any player in the world he is put against and he did it on his own.


And Not everyone can Still shine without a team house. Your point proves nothing. Fact is, Koreans win tournaments. Even if you don't train like the Koreans, you do have to live there like Huk, if you do intend to win the whole thing. I don't see Thorzain or Fenix making big deal out of this. Perhaps, the fact that they are not American has something to do with it?

Without a strong mental fortitude, Sheth might as well quit sc2 pro gamer scene all together.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 13:55:25
July 22 2011 13:46 GMT
#658
On July 22 2011 22:39 Quesa wrote:
I don't understand how citing examples of players who excel on their own is evidence that they couldn't/wouldn't be better in a team house.


I'm saying they don't have to be in a house to play at top levels and players who prefer to be on the own will always play better practicing in there own enviroment. Team houses are not for everyone and if it makes you uncomfortable then you will not be playing at your best because your never thinking clearly your never rested why does you player house of random cramped people playing 12 hours a day stop me comfortably playing at home 12 hours a day using skype to discuss with others and this thing called the internet to play with players from around the world.

On July 22 2011 22:45 twndomn wrote:

And Not everyone can Still shine without a team house. Your point proves nothing. Fact is, Koreans win tournaments. Even if you don't train like the Koreans, you do have to live there like Huk, if you do intend to win the whole thing. I don't see Thorzain or Fenix making big deal out of this. Perhaps, the fact that they are not American has something to do with it?

Without a strong mental fortitude, Sheth might as well quit sc2 pro gamer scene all together.

I didn't say everyone can do it I just cited people who can what I'm saying is Sheth can still be a top player without living in a team house and he is not the fist.


On July 22 2011 22:39 EliteReplay wrote:
no u are totally wrong, given that korean have training houses u can see many korean dominating foreigner tournaments latetly.

its not the same to be working by your own than have a schedule and stick to it.

whitera, naniwa those u mentioned, are good players but not high caliber at korean ones.

at next MLG u will see korean dominating and no foreigner left in the round 4, or maybe in round 8


Not high caliber ones? Did you not watch homestory cup or any of the mlgs? At home story Naniwa beat MC and Huk and made 1 mistake with a commanding lead in the game 7 between him and huk in a PvP in the finals. He beats top players all the time who are these top players you mention Nestea....and that's it? I see a bunch of Koreans do pretty good and win sure but its not gonna end like that at mlg I was at columbus live seeing it happen Don't be surprised if Idra, Naniwa or SixjaxMajor are in finals.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 22 2011 13:46 GMT
#659
Sad to hear, but makes sense I guess...

Anyway, he shouldn't have a problem to find a new team.
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solidONE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
July 22 2011 13:48 GMT
#660
eh, this sucks but it's not really a big deal. FXO got a lot of good pickups and sheth is good enough to get on any team really I don't think either party will have a hard time really.
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