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Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
July 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#4961
On July 22 2011 08:37 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:36 Takezou wrote:
Are you fucking serious? Alex wants to know what he did wrong?

Why don't you elaborate on this instead of throwing out emotionally loaded accusations.


It seems pretty obvious. Alex approaches a player without contacting the coach and he thinks it is okay?

He is taking no responsibility for the way he went about it.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#4962
It definitely was a mistake by EG to not formally go through the other team, but people obviously made a 250 page mountain out of a molehill, though I doubt people will put down their pitchforks.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
July 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#4963
On July 22 2011 08:16 getSome[703] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:14 namedplayer wrote:
new interview from TSL coach posted on PlayXP

http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=3211586


Any chance of a translation? Googletranslate blows


i'll try though i'm at work (has to be done discretely :X)

damn, thats a long interview lol...
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#4964
On July 22 2011 08:37 Angelbelow wrote:
Damn milkis is hard to listen to, is it the quality of his mic? Really fuzzy for me.

Its not just you, his mike sucks sadly.
Trolling the Battle.Net forums, the most fun you can have with your pants on.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#4965
AG brings up a good point.. he didnt approach Lee, Lee didnt approach AG but made a public rant. Its a good point... I think there were a few people who felt like Lee was the unprofessional one from this public outcry but i didnt put much thought into that until now.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#4966
Here's what I'm getting from this:

1) EG handed out cards to players, to show that they were looking to find some Korean players.
2) Puma was interested, and asked for details.
3) Puma was thought it was a good idea, so he talked to the coach about leaving TSL when he got back.
4) TSL thinks that Puma has already signed, or that EG has a contract on the table, and thinks they have a player poached.

Obviously I don't know much else, but hearing from EG and TSL, it sounds like TSL had no idea that a discussion was going on, and EG didn't realize that Puma had actually made a decision (instead of just being interested).
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#4967
On July 22 2011 08:39 OrderlyChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:37 seiferoth10 wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:36 Takezou wrote:
Are you fucking serious? Alex wants to know what he did wrong?

Why don't you elaborate on this instead of throwing out emotionally loaded accusations.


It seems a bit odd to me that EG is actively recruiting players from other teams without contacting their managers/coaches at all. That's what this situation looks like to me, unless Puma was the only person who got a business card at NASL.

AG said that EG talked to several korean teams/managers/coaches directly. It almost sounds like Puma was an exception because Puma wanted to talk with his coach himself.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#4968
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting

Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#4969
On July 22 2011 08:39 OrderlyChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:37 seiferoth10 wrote:
On July 22 2011 08:36 Takezou wrote:
Are you fucking serious? Alex wants to know what he did wrong?

Why don't you elaborate on this instead of throwing out emotionally loaded accusations.


It seems a bit odd to me that EG is actively recruiting players from other teams without contacting their managers/coaches at all. That's what this situation looks like to me, unless Puma was the only person who got a business card at NASL.


FXOBoSs posted he got Sheth & Qxc through contacting them first. Sheth did the intermediary aspects with ROOT. So, that's not exactly abnormal behavior.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#4970
Has EG made a statement on this matter yet?
Bandino
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#4971
Alex is a really good speaker.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#4972
On July 22 2011 08:39 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 08:38 Fionn wrote:
This conversation is one sided. Milkis is great, but he isn't affiliated with TSL or knows what they're doing. He really can't answer what Alex is saying because he doesn't know what Lee is thinking or what Clide is thinking.

Yeah, unfortunately.

Thankfully for us, there's an interview with Coach Lee floating around waiting for Milkis to translate for us. Or anyone else who can read Korean, really.


Thats the one he is referrencing when he talks because Milkies saw that as well I think.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#4973
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting



Bingo.
JohnStorm
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada74 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#4974
It seems like a lot of people don't realize that this is nothing new from Alex Garfield. History is just repeating itself again.

http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/story/43572/
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thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#4975
On July 22 2011 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
Has EG made a statement on this matter yet?


You should probably tune in to Weapon of Choice right now.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#4976
I will translate the article right now!

http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=3211586
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#4977
On July 22 2011 08:41 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Here's what I'm getting from this:

1) EG handed out cards to players, to show that they were looking to find some Korean players.
2) Puma was interested, and asked for details.
3) Puma was thought it was a good idea, so he talked to the coach about leaving TSL when he got back.
4) TSL thinks that Puma has already signed, or that EG has a contract on the table, and thinks they have a player poached.

Obviously I don't know much else, but hearing from EG and TSL, it sounds like TSL had no idea that a discussion was going on, and EG didn't realize that Puma had actually made a decision (instead of just being interested).


This is a great summary, as AG said the news was broken far to early, Lee at some point thought puma had already made his Decision and EG had already signed him PRIOR to puma leaving, when they still didn't even have time to go through the process to sign him. The fact is he isn't yet signed so it is obvious that it caught Lee and EG off guard.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#4978
On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting



Yeah, I never considered this point of view. That was a good one.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
RoninMugen
Profile Joined April 2011
United States18 Posts
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#4979
"WAKE THE FUCK UP" - DJ Wheat. Might have to make that a sig.. lol
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
EG.lectR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 23:44:03
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#4980
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