It seems pretty obvious. Alex approaches a player without contacting the coach and he thinks it is okay?

He is taking no responsibility for the way he went about it.

taLbuk

Madagascar1879 Posts

July 21 2011 23:40 GMT

#4962

It definitely was a mistake by EG to not formally go through the other team, but people obviously made a 250 page mountain out of a molehill, though I doubt people will put down their pitchforks.

jinorazi

Korea (South)4948 Posts

July 21 2011 23:40 GMT

#4963

On July 22 2011 08:16 getSome[703] wrote:

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Any chance of a translation? Googletranslate blows

i'll try though i'm at work (has to be done discretely :X)

damn, thats a long interview lol...

Darkong

United Kingdom418 Posts

July 21 2011 23:41 GMT

#4964

On July 22 2011 08:37 Angelbelow wrote:
Damn milkis is hard to listen to, is it the quality of his mic? Really fuzzy for me.

Its not just you, his mike sucks sadly.

Angelbelow

United States3728 Posts

July 21 2011 23:41 GMT

#4965

AG brings up a good point.. he didnt approach Lee, Lee didnt approach AG but made a public rant. Its a good point... I think there were a few people who felt like Lee was the unprofessional one from this public outcry but i didnt put much thought into that until now.

WolfintheSheep

Canada14127 Posts

July 21 2011 23:41 GMT

#4966

Here's what I'm getting from this:

1) EG handed out cards to players, to show that they were looking to find some Korean players.
2) Puma was interested, and asked for details.
3) Puma was thought it was a good idea, so he talked to the coach about leaving TSL when he got back.
4) TSL thinks that Puma has already signed, or that EG has a contract on the table, and thinks they have a player poached.

Obviously I don't know much else, but hearing from EG and TSL, it sounds like TSL had no idea that a discussion was going on, and EG didn't realize that Puma had actually made a decision (instead of just being interested).

Thrax

Canada1755 Posts

July 21 2011 23:41 GMT

#4967

On July 22 2011 08:39 OrderlyChaos wrote:

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It seems a bit odd to me that EG is actively recruiting players from other teams without contacting their managers/coaches at all. That's what this situation looks like to me, unless Puma was the only person who got a business card at NASL.

AG said that EG talked to several korean teams/managers/coaches directly. It almost sounds like Puma was an exception because Puma wanted to talk with his coach himself.

Soleron

United Kingdom1324 Posts

July 21 2011 23:41 GMT

#4968

So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

July 21 2011 23:41 GMT

#4969

On July 22 2011 08:39 OrderlyChaos wrote:

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FXOBoSs posted he got Sheth & Qxc through contacting them first. Sheth did the intermediary aspects with ROOT. So, that's not exactly abnormal behavior.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

July 21 2011 23:42 GMT

#4970

Has EG made a statement on this matter yet?

Bandino

United States342 Posts

July 21 2011 23:42 GMT

#4971

Alex is a really good speaker.

Adreme

United States5574 Posts

July 21 2011 23:42 GMT

#4972

On July 22 2011 08:39 babylon wrote:

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Yeah, unfortunately.

Thankfully for us, there's an interview with Coach Lee floating around waiting for Milkis to translate for us. Or anyone else who can read Korean, really.

Thats the one he is referrencing when he talks because Milkies saw that as well I think.

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

July 21 2011 23:42 GMT

#4973

On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting

Bingo.

JohnStorm

Canada74 Posts

July 21 2011 23:42 GMT

#4974

It seems like a lot of people don't realize that this is nothing new from Alex Garfield. History is just repeating itself again.

http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/story/43572/

thedz

United States217 Posts

July 21 2011 23:42 GMT

#4975

On July 22 2011 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
Has EG made a statement on this matter yet?

You should probably tune in to Weapon of Choice right now.

SoKHo

Korea (South)1081 Posts

July 21 2011 23:43 GMT

#4976

I will translate the article right now!

http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=3211586

taLbuk

Madagascar1879 Posts

July 21 2011 23:43 GMT

#4977

On July 22 2011 08:41 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Here's what I'm getting from this:

1) EG handed out cards to players, to show that they were looking to find some Korean players.
2) Puma was interested, and asked for details.
3) Puma was thought it was a good idea, so he talked to the coach about leaving TSL when he got back.
4) TSL thinks that Puma has already signed, or that EG has a contract on the table, and thinks they have a player poached.

Obviously I don't know much else, but hearing from EG and TSL, it sounds like TSL had no idea that a discussion was going on, and EG didn't realize that Puma had actually made a decision (instead of just being interested).

This is a great summary, as AG said the news was broken far to early, Lee at some point thought puma had already made his Decision and EG had already signed him PRIOR to puma leaving, when they still didn't even have time to go through the process to sign him. The fact is he isn't yet signed so it is obvious that it caught Lee and EG off guard.

Angelbelow

United States3728 Posts

July 21 2011 23:43 GMT

#4978

On July 22 2011 08:41 Soleron wrote:
So:

EG should have contacted TSL before suggesting it

TSL should have contacted EG before internet ranting

Yeah, I never considered this point of view. That was a good one.