On June 27 2011 01:58 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Man PvP is only about micro and 4 gating (in this series anyway). That's not a true test of skill, PvP means nothing.

And micro is not a skill anymore?

Laerties

United States361 Posts

June 26 2011 17:02 GMT

#1302

Lol Huk thinks he's already won, what a baller.

cyclone25

Romania3344 Posts

June 26 2011 17:03 GMT

#1303

On June 27 2011 01:55 Mithrandror wrote:
Just for the record, I'm glad that Huk won, I think he played great and I'm a big fan of him since the 'Halo-Mothership event'. Its just that (judging by streams and pictures) Mc seems kinda isolated from the other players. I don't know however how the atmosphere is there in real life (since I'm not there) and I don't know how Mc behaves towards the other players. In that sense I'm biased myself and since I'm really not trying to diss anyone, I'll refer myself from giving further comments about this. The event is great and everyone who organized/participated in it did an amazing job!

If you don't know so many things, then why bother posting like that at all?
This is Europe and we don't want MC to win all our tournaments. We obviously cheer against him.
Outside of the game everyone is friendly to him, don't worry.

ProxyKnoxy

United Kingdom2576 Posts

June 26 2011 17:06 GMT

#1304

On June 27 2011 02:00 xilaratu wrote:

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How is micro not a test of skill?

Actually, don't answer that, don't want to derail this thread.

Well if you didn't want me to answer that you would have removed it.

Because micro is only one factor? You need very little macro in order to pull off a 4 gate...

leecH

Germany385 Posts

June 26 2011 17:08 GMT

#1305

On June 27 2011 02:03 cyclone25 wrote:

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for everyone not knowing: this dude is the official elected spokesperson for protoss players outside of korea also called OESPPOK.

edit: gogogo MC.. oh wait. too late..

xilaratu

United States233 Posts

June 26 2011 17:09 GMT

#1306

On June 27 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:

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Well if you didn't want me to answer that you would have removed it.

Because micro is only one factor? You need very little macro in order to pull off a 4 gate...

by this rationalization, macro is the only test of skill, which simply isn't true.

Damnit, there we go derailing this thread. :|

xUraharaX

United States72 Posts

June 26 2011 17:12 GMT

#1307

On June 27 2011 02:06 ProxyKnoxy wrote:

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Well if you didn't want me to answer that you would have removed it.

Because micro is only one factor? You need very little macro in order to pull off a 4 gate...

Well then i think you should play a mouse accuracy game for a year and ull be just as good as the pros?...

They are making lots of very small decision that are winning the game, Ex: when to build sentries, when to be defensive, when to try to attack, when to pull back, what to focus, where to place proxy pylons, when to keep pressuring (last game mc vs huk) and the restictions that result on your opponent, if they can possibly sneak an additional probe or two, or late game like when huk used his position to cut off long range mining... honestly man, 4 gate battles may be limited compared to a normal sc2 game because both players are limited, but that just makes it that much more difficult to be good at it.

ProxyKnoxy

United Kingdom2576 Posts

June 26 2011 17:12 GMT

#1308

On June 27 2011 02:09 xilaratu wrote:

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by this rationalization, macro is the only test of skill, which simply isn't true.

Damnit, there we go derailing this thread. :|

What are you talking about? I just said that micro is only one factor. From that alone you can tell that my opinion is you need more than one factor to have a true test of skill.

Whatever we've exchanged opinions let it rest

radiumz0rz

United States253 Posts

June 26 2011 17:15 GMT

#1309

I think it's also interesting that TLO is in the banner but he is not playing. Even though he is there at the flat, I wish I could see him more and listen to him commentating!

teekesselchen

Germany886 Posts

June 26 2011 17:18 GMT

#1310

So, I wanted to drink a glass of Juice and thought "oh, look, it's Naniwa!":
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/T33_K3SS3LCH3N/SC2/IMG_0029.jpg

http://images.readmore.de/gallery/smallphotos/16806.jpg

Dommk

Australia4865 Posts

June 26 2011 17:18 GMT

#1311

On June 27 2011 01:58 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Man PvP is only about micro and 4 gating (in this series anyway). That's not a true test of skill, PvP means nothing.

I think that is an incredibly blunt and uninformed opinion. Micro determines the fights, but everything leading up to it, how you capitalize, the decisions you make, they all play such a huge factor in PvP.

People love calling PvP a coin flip, but it certainly isn't. It is just very hard. You can see it already, the better and better players get the less and less they shrug off "PvP" as a "w.e", because there is method to all this madness

Proxity

United States126 Posts

June 26 2011 17:18 GMT

#1312

Random Beatboxer....

gun.slinger

Canada258 Posts

June 26 2011 17:20 GMT

#1313

On June 27 2011 02:18 teekesselchen wrote:
So, I wanted to drink a glass of Juice and thought "oh, look, it's Naniwa!":
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/T33_K3SS3LCH3N/SC2/IMG_0029.jpg

http://images.readmore.de/gallery/smallphotos/16806.jpg

Sup nani!

Venerac

United States201 Posts

June 26 2011 17:21 GMT

#1314

MC casting? OMG I'm so sad I'm going to miss this </3

Logrus

United States228 Posts

June 26 2011 17:23 GMT

#1315

On June 27 2011 02:18 Proxity wrote:
Random Beatboxer....

was pretty enjoyable actually

PanN

United States2828 Posts

June 26 2011 17:25 GMT

#1316

On June 27 2011 02:23 Logrus wrote:

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was pretty enjoyable actually

Eh, he did a song that is pretty much THE beatbox song. Then did a bad starwars deal, lol.

But he had the balls to do that in front of 26 thousand people, pretty awesome for that I guess.