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photomuse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
February 16 2011 17:29 GMT
#301
As a casual fan, this makes me sad. I only have time to follow one starcraft tournament consistently, and for me that is the GSL. I pay the monthly fee, watch >50% of the games, and follow the players. I enjoyed rooting for Idra. Still, this might make me more aware of the NA tournaments. Here's hoping that either Ret or Huk do well in Code A and break into code S so there can be more foreign players.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
February 16 2011 17:34 GMT
#302
On February 17 2011 02:29 photomuse wrote:
As a casual fan, this makes me sad. I only have time to follow one starcraft tournament consistently, and for me that is the GSL. I pay the monthly fee, watch >50% of the games, and follow the players. I enjoyed rooting for Idra. Still, this might make me more aware of the NA tournaments. Here's hoping that either Ret or Huk do well in Code A and break into code S so there can be more foreign players.


Something tells me if those guys don't break through, they will be following Idra back.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
February 16 2011 17:57 GMT
#303
On February 16 2011 21:29 ffz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 20:15 Krehlmar wrote:
Wait he wont even play his last tournament?... I dont agree with that EG. That's alot of money and secondly he really has a shot at winning it. He can defeat anyone in the tournament so why not let him have one last shot?...

Did he go US just to participate in more, smaller, tournaments to win more money? Cause that would suck.


Seriously though why wont he play one last tournament?


He said himself in an interview (was it during sotg iono im blanking out) that he's only played the new GSL maps twice. Doesn't seem like he'll get enough practice by himself in korea to win anything. Smart move imo to come back and finally get some teammates to practice with.


I feel this quote needs to be seen by more people.

This is probably a very big part of the reason he left. Not having teammates to practice maps is a deal breaker. You cannot win if you cannot practice. IdrA even said recently that practicing SC2 is useless so he was probably already feeling unmotivated when the new maps came out and he realized the only person he could practice with was ret who's in another team...

As most people know IdrA pretty much only ladders for practice. Living alone with no teammates to help you (either with practice or comments), it's a giant handicap vs people living in team houses and probably one that would make the difference 10-fold clearer on non-ladder maps.

I think all the other factors still apply (more tournaments, NASL, etc) but this one flew over my head and it's probably the biggest one.
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MnMOptimus
Profile Joined January 2011
United States8 Posts
February 16 2011 18:02 GMT
#304
I like IdrA, this is so dispointed
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
February 16 2011 18:04 GMT
#305
My question is this: What does this say about the EG house that was supposed to go up in Korea? It seems the chances of that happening were just reduced.
Wishing you well.
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
February 16 2011 18:05 GMT
#306
Kinda disappointed... but I'm sure he'll make big things happen in NA as well.
just here
Isomer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
February 16 2011 18:05 GMT
#307
Why would IdrA stay in Korea just to lose to VR/Coloss in GSL? I totally agree with his choice.
There's nothing cooler than being proud of what you love
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
February 16 2011 18:06 GMT
#308
On February 17 2011 02:57 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 21:29 ffz wrote:
On February 16 2011 20:15 Krehlmar wrote:
Wait he wont even play his last tournament?... I dont agree with that EG. That's alot of money and secondly he really has a shot at winning it. He can defeat anyone in the tournament so why not let him have one last shot?...

Did he go US just to participate in more, smaller, tournaments to win more money? Cause that would suck.


Seriously though why wont he play one last tournament?


He said himself in an interview (was it during sotg iono im blanking out) that he's only played the new GSL maps twice. Doesn't seem like he'll get enough practice by himself in korea to win anything. Smart move imo to come back and finally get some teammates to practice with.


I feel this quote needs to be seen by more people.

This is probably a very big part of the reason he left. Not having teammates to practice maps is a deal breaker. You cannot win if you cannot practice. IdrA even said recently that practicing SC2 is useless so he was probably already feeling unmotivated when the new maps came out and he realized the only person he could practice with was ret who's in another team...

As most people know IdrA pretty much only ladders for practice. Living alone with no teammates to help you (either with practice or comments), it's a giant handicap vs people living in team houses and probably one that would make the difference 10-fold clearer on non-ladder maps.

I think all the other factors still apply (more tournaments, NASL, etc) but this one flew over my head and it's probably the biggest one.


I feel Idra is the only one to blame for him not having any practice partners. He ridiculed the Koreans so much that in the end no one wanted to play with him, and all he had was his practice with ret.
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
February 16 2011 18:07 GMT
#309
Heard this on SOTG. Quite surprising he is coming back. Although his.... roommate. =)
Arcticc
Profile Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:17:46
February 16 2011 18:17 GMT
#310
To me, this is like a favorite NBA player of mine deciding he can get more money in Europe, so he goes to play there. Unfortunately, that means he won't be playing against the best competition and aiming for the larger (more meaningful) championship.

The impression the announcement lead me to believe, was that this was a choice based on money. I would have rather it been a choice because he was homesick or not adapting to cultural challenges of Korea.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 16 2011 18:21 GMT
#311
I am extremely disappointed to hear that Idra is leaving Korea. I heard that he had a hard time finding practice partners. I put the blame squarely on EG's shoulders. They promised that they would have an EG team house in Korea. It seems Idra had no choice but to return to NA .
Don't mind me
STALLONEZONE
Profile Joined December 2010
Ireland115 Posts
February 16 2011 18:22 GMT
#312
I seriously think IdrAs style is going to get completely and utterly crushed by aggressive American/European players, especially Terrans.
3000ish Diamond Player. Want to practive *vZ or need help Zv* on EU? Add me: STALLONEZONE 309
darthcaesar
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States475 Posts
February 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#313
I'm pretty sure that the speculated NASL is the reason for this.
"eSports in NA is getting ready to blow up" - a paraphrase of what IdrA repeated as his reason for moving.

I wonder whether GOMTV is aware of (assuming speculation is true) NASL.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
February 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#314
On February 17 2011 03:22 STALLONEZONE wrote:
I seriously think IdrAs style is going to get completely and utterly crushed by aggressive American/European players, especially Terrans.


You talk like he hasn't won anything in America ever.

MLG *cough*.
secret - never again
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:26:15
February 16 2011 18:25 GMT
#315
On February 17 2011 03:22 STALLONEZONE wrote:
I seriously think IdrAs style is going to get completely and utterly crushed by aggressive American/European players, especially Terrans.



Yea, because koreans are known for being the defensive players? I'd say he is used to dealing with agressive terrans.
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universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
February 16 2011 18:26 GMT
#316
Well seeing how successful he has been in the Korean tournaments, he'll be quite dominant in the American ones. Means that if people want a chance of beating him, they're going to have to practice hard, meaning the general skill ceiling of the US server hopefully improving.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:30:08
February 16 2011 18:28 GMT
#317
On February 17 2011 03:22 STALLONEZONE wrote:
I seriously think IdrAs style is going to get completely and utterly crushed by aggressive American/European players, especially Terrans.


This was like a "through the looking glass" moment for me. Reading this post, I mean. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

The big stereotype of the Korean server that, judging from Idra's stream, is at least to some degree true is that there are a lot of players who literally got to the top 200 by being really, really fucking good about executing very specific, very aggressive timing attacks and all-ins. This is the county that brought you MarineKing.
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BossaKungen
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden43 Posts
February 16 2011 18:28 GMT
#318
I think this may have been the tipping point for his decision to leave Korea

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hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
February 16 2011 18:29 GMT
#319
why not just finish this GSL then return man, wtf is wrong with you (
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:30:07
February 16 2011 18:29 GMT
#320
On February 17 2011 03:28 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:22 STALLONEZONE wrote:
I seriously think IdrAs style is going to get completely and utterly crushed by aggressive American/European players, especially Terrans.


This was like a "through the looking glass" moment for me. Reading this post, I mean. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.


And Koreans are about 1000x more aggressive than NA/EU players. Its like he's never seen Idra play or something.
secret - never again
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