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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
June 04 2010 22:49 GMT
#21
anyone else really sick of these threads taking the TOU and EULA and trying to find some little line that really means nothing but making some huge deal of blizzard protecting their rights?

Jesus fuck, this shit is nothing new. Chill out, play the game, have fun. Blizzard isn't looking to screw you out of playing the game.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
Lysis
Profile Joined October 2009
United States147 Posts
June 04 2010 22:50 GMT
#22
Last time I checked the ToS/EULA, Blizzard owns all content contained in and generated by their games. This was the case in StatCraft: Brood War as well. It doesn't mean you can't distribute it, it just means you can't make money off of it without their explicit (and probably written) consent.
SC2: Tavyr#340 -- Razer Mamba user -- Don't trust anyone who says Terran is imba.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
June 04 2010 22:51 GMT
#23
On June 05 2010 07:37 EnderW wrote:
OP I think you are just being whiny and nit-picky. I seriously doubt that this will have any negative affect, they are simply protecting their bases. When you are a giant corporation you need to do these things
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 04 2010 22:52 GMT
#24
Yet another pointless thread.
There's no S in KT. :P
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
June 04 2010 23:03 GMT
#25
Replays have always been the property of Blizzard. That's why you can't make a WoW pvp video and sell it, or use it in a commercial way, without explicit permission by Blizzard.

Even though it's the player controlling the units in the game, it's still blizzard's game engine, 3d models, graphics, music, etc.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 23:08:22
June 04 2010 23:05 GMT
#26
On June 05 2010 07:28 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 07:25 Tinithor wrote:
If you notice, it says recordings too. So potentially blizzard could start charging EVERYONE who wants to make youtube videos or casting anything if they wanted.


Yes, but they haven't done so for the last 15 years. And I doubt selling youtube videos is a particular attractive market for a multi billion company.


If somebody would run popular channel then they could demand from him to get commercial, and pay them. They become much more greedy after they had become billion dollar company so your argument is rather silly, it would not take much work for them to send an email.
Skeyser
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada219 Posts
June 04 2010 23:07 GMT
#27
Man people complaining about the ToS are so annoying, it's just lawyer business.

It's pretty much just there to ensure that no one starts selling replays or charging people to view replays on a website or w/e.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 04 2010 23:08 GMT
#28
My limited, remaining faith in humanity dips just a little bit every time one of you idiots post something like this.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
June 04 2010 23:09 GMT
#29
As long as Blizzard don't charge me to download replays, I don't care.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 23:14:39
June 04 2010 23:10 GMT
#30
I was going to say that it was unreasonable to argue that replay files could be see as art from the user, but I just thought of a way to argue this.

People shouldn't poo-poo these threads. There is a very serious ongoing legal discussion regarding the future of software rights. You may only care about SC2 but there is a bigger picture that some of us can appreciate.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
June 04 2010 23:11 GMT
#31
On June 05 2010 07:25 Tinithor wrote:
If you notice, it says recordings too. So potentially blizzard could start charging EVERYONE who wants to make youtube videos or casting anything if they wanted.


They'd have to contend with the doctrine of fair use, since one could argue that the footage is being used for the purpose of review.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 04 2010 23:11 GMT
#32
Did you know it is also bad if you record NFL games, cut the footage and make an "Awesome Plays" video and then go and sell that without consent from the NFL? This is an issue that is used in anything that is media/entertainment business. Move along.
Brood War forever!
afirlortwo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States161 Posts
June 04 2010 23:12 GMT
#33
nothing new, nothing to see here
Just a momentary diversion on the road to the grave
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
June 04 2010 23:12 GMT
#34
Blizzard just want to hold the rights, which is reasonable. They are not gonna abuse it over regular people just for another 2 cents and screw their gaming policy over the world. It is just always good to be prepared on law side that is all.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
June 04 2010 23:13 GMT
#35
Hey guys. PSST. I'LL SELL YOU FLASH SC2 REPLAYS 20 bucks a pop.

Look, I know Blizzard isn't doing so great in our communities eyes, but like everyone's already been saying, a few of you fellows are looking at this thing a little too hard. They aren't going to take over the world anytime soon. I promise.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 04 2010 23:13 GMT
#36
If they did not have that line in EULA, a company could make a league and stream only replays. Or maybe they need that line to publish replays from their own proleague?
I am not good with quotes
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 04 2010 23:16 GMT
#37
On June 05 2010 08:05 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 07:28 Eury wrote:
On June 05 2010 07:25 Tinithor wrote:
If you notice, it says recordings too. So potentially blizzard could start charging EVERYONE who wants to make youtube videos or casting anything if they wanted.


Yes, but they haven't done so for the last 15 years. And I doubt selling youtube videos is a particular attractive market for a multi billion company.


If somebody would run popular channel then they could demand from him to get commercial, and pay them. They become much more greedy after they had become billion dollar company so your argument is rather silly, it would not take much work for them to send an email.

Jon747 has more than 50 million upload views. Not huge, but more than several channels run by various companies. If Blizzard wanted to squeeze him for money, they could have done so a long time ago.
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Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
June 04 2010 23:17 GMT
#38
On June 05 2010 08:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 07:25 Tinithor wrote:
If you notice, it says recordings too. So potentially blizzard could start charging EVERYONE who wants to make youtube videos or casting anything if they wanted.


They'd have to contend with the doctrine of fair use, since one could argue that the footage is being used for the purpose of review.


If they would even brother with that, then it would with somebody that have popular channel where he updates games often. It is rather obvious that commentaries are not reviews you would want to go with curt, and lie about it? It is not as ridiculous as it may seem:
-very small cost for blizzard, just send some emails, who would want to go to curt against them, and they would likely win in most.
-popular youtube channels make profit on commercials, and Blizzard would just get a cut from it while doing nothing.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
June 04 2010 23:19 GMT
#39
On June 05 2010 07:21 RodrigoX wrote:Woah Woah Woah. This is the same bullshit Kespa was pulling. This is 100 percent not right!

An artists work, is the artists work. The makers of paint dont control him. Complete 100 percent bullshit.



Let's not start wth that againg....



Personally I couldn't care less.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 23:23:26
June 04 2010 23:22 GMT
#40
On June 05 2010 08:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 08:05 Polis wrote:
On June 05 2010 07:28 Eury wrote:
On June 05 2010 07:25 Tinithor wrote:
If you notice, it says recordings too. So potentially blizzard could start charging EVERYONE who wants to make youtube videos or casting anything if they wanted.


Yes, but they haven't done so for the last 15 years. And I doubt selling youtube videos is a particular attractive market for a multi billion company.


If somebody would run popular channel then they could demand from him to get commercial, and pay them. They become much more greedy after they had become billion dollar company so your argument is rather silly, it would not take much work for them to send an email.

Jon747 has more than 50 million upload views. Not huge, but more than several channels run by various companies. If Blizzard wanted to squeeze him for money, they could have done so a long time ago.


Jon747 obviously doesn't meet the criteria that I had set myself before:
"If somebody would run popular channel then they could demand from him to get commercial, and pay them."

jon747 videos are viewed by very small number of people there is no money there, he can't get commercial, and make much from it, but if the numbers that hdh invitational have could be sustain they could want the channel to be commercialized, and take cut from commercials money
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