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gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
May 30 2010 23:45 GMT
#21
Well done.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 30 2010 23:50 GMT
#22
This analogy does a good job speaking to the morality of how one should assert their intellectual property rights. However, legally it kinda breaks down. The paint maker has a utility patent on his paint, whereas Blizzard also has a copyright (and that's where it derives the authority to license the transmitting and broadcasting of its product).
Decko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
May 30 2010 23:52 GMT
#23
The metaphor is a little facile, but okay =/.
Superman does good, you're doing well.
FiveAlarm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States57 Posts
May 30 2010 23:57 GMT
#24
If you heard a big "WOOOOOOOOOOOSH!" click my spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +

Lizzare Atisione = Blizzard / Activision
Gomi Televiccini = Gom TV
Old paint = Starcraft
New paint = Starcraft 2
o/ \o TEAMWORK!
Hold-Lurker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States403 Posts
May 31 2010 00:00 GMT
#25
But do you really need the color blue to paint?

I mean it's so 1495...
Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
May 31 2010 00:00 GMT
#26
I think we should wait... roughtly 2 hours to see what KeSPA is saying about this whole situation. Anyway, wouldn't this be a thread for the BW forum?
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
TrevorJK
Profile Joined May 2009
United States77 Posts
May 31 2010 00:11 GMT
#27
Can someone explain how the OP is a metaphor for the Starcraft situation? Do people just see lots of words + shitting on blizzard and automatically think the post is good?

Paint is more like a programming language then the game itself. The artist would be blizzard, and KeSPA would be some gallery that charges money for the public to see the painting.

If I create the Mona Lisa. I then allow an art gallery to display it at their gallery for 3 years, for a nominal fee. After the 3 years, the Mona Lisa is supposed to come back to me possession, but the Art Gallery won't give it back to me. Who's painting is it?


+ Show Spoiler +
Amazingly, it is mine.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
May 31 2010 00:25 GMT
#28
Now thats a little dramatic don't ya think? ;P
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 31 2010 00:29 GMT
#29
Pretty weak analogy imo.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
May 31 2010 00:31 GMT
#30
I don't get it
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jackofclubs81
Profile Joined January 2010
United States196 Posts
May 31 2010 00:33 GMT
#31
IMO this is almost as good (if not better) than the MSL finals hype article that copied 300. Very well written.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
May 31 2010 00:34 GMT
#32
I actually looked up Lizzare Atisione on wikipedia, before figuring this out..
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Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
May 31 2010 00:39 GMT
#33
On May 31 2010 08:50 Slow Motion wrote:
This analogy does a good job speaking to the morality of how one should assert their intellectual property rights. However, legally it kinda breaks down. The paint maker has a utility patent on his paint, whereas Blizzard also has a copyright (and that's where it derives the authority to license the transmitting and broadcasting of its product).


It's not nearly as much about that as it is about the original paint allowing painters to make beautiful things with it, and thinking that making better paint will make better paintings and trying to enforce it to give you the credit.
Cirrus
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom134 Posts
May 31 2010 00:41 GMT
#34
Heheh, well done, I skim read it at first like i always do and got totally confused so had to re read it properly from the start before understanding it :p
:)
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 00:50:08
May 31 2010 00:48 GMT
#35
Meh. Screw the Mona Lisa.. Postcard sized painting hidden behind sheets of glass and hundreds of people, hardly worth your time except to say you've seen it. :D

Nice writing and message. Enjoyed reading it.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 31 2010 00:51 GMT
#36
On May 31 2010 09:39 Angra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 08:50 Slow Motion wrote:
This analogy does a good job speaking to the morality of how one should assert their intellectual property rights. However, legally it kinda breaks down. The paint maker has a utility patent on his paint, whereas Blizzard also has a copyright (and that's where it derives the authority to license the transmitting and broadcasting of its product).


It's not nearly as much about that as it is about the original paint allowing painters to make beautiful things with it, and thinking that making better paint will make better paintings and trying to enforce it to give you the credit.

That's part of it, but I was talking about the withdrawal of the painting made with original paint and licensing the new painter. Basically the Kespa/Gom situation. The whole SC2 thing is all entangled in this whole thing too though.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
May 31 2010 00:56 GMT
#37
On May 31 2010 09:34 Hans-Titan wrote:
I actually looked up Lizzare Atisione on wikipedia, before figuring this out..


I googled it

Did you mean Lizard Atisione?
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 31 2010 00:58 GMT
#38
On May 31 2010 09:33 jackofclubs81 wrote:
IMO this is almost as good (if not better) than the MSL finals hype article that copied 300. Very well written.

I'd agree with you, but I didn't copy 300. Only the pictures did :<
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Piousflea
Profile Joined February 2010
United States259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 01:00:16
May 31 2010 00:58 GMT
#39
Elegant post, terrible metaphor. Kespa has spent the past decade getting a "free ride" from Blizzard. They have made plenty of money off of another company's product while trying really hard to prevent anyone else from broadcasting SC:BW. I shed no tears over their getting shut down by Blizzard. If Kespa loses the ensuing legal battle, all the good players will go to gomtv.
Seek, behold, and reveal the truth
CCGaunt
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States417 Posts
May 31 2010 01:00 GMT
#40
Great writing.
The point is made that Blizzard is not fostering the eSports culture.
Take me to Korea
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