EPTStill, I don't think it's necessarily imbalanced. Outside of the obvious counters (Ghosts, HT), it most likely will be weak against high-mobility plays as well since you need to keep everything together, and queens are still somewhat slow units even on creep (though CatZ did show the possibilty of ferrying them with overlords).
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Alphaes
United States651 Posts
Still, I don't think it's necessarily imbalanced. Outside of the obvious counters (Ghosts, HT), it most likely will be weak against high-mobility plays as well since you need to keep everything together, and queens are still somewhat slow units even on creep (though CatZ did show the possibilty of ferrying them with overlords). | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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SummerZerg
United States82 Posts
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Feb
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i didn't participate in the beta, but i thought i heard that early on queens were crazy imba and blizzard nerfed them down to try to ensure they remained almost exclusively defensive units. since this may be changing and the nerfs blizzard made to reapers and barracks requiring supply depots, i think some balance changes will happen to hydras, queens, and some of the counters in upcoming patches. | ||
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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
On February 08 2011 14:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: I have never had Day[9] lag and I am in the U.S. even when there are 10,000 or more viewers, if I click on the stream and wait a couple seconds it loads up just fine. If the problem is on Day[9]'s end it is apparently a very, very specific issue (at least by the ratio of problem replies to fine replies). I would still lean to the issue being on the viewers end of things. (Limited connection, too many programs eating bandwidth, etc., etc.) I've tried everything. I've booted up in safe mode with networking, I've closed explorer.exe, I've tried Chrome, Firefox, Opera, even frickin IE8, I've updated my Flash, I've updated my Java, I've updated my gorramned BIOS, I've tried my laptop, I tried my old Apple G4 laptop - they all lag. The issue might be with my network then, but I doubt it. I can watch other ustreams fine, I can watch Justin.tv's 720p streams fine, I can even stream 1080p YouTube videos. I have a 3 Mbps connection. I only recently started lagging - up until 2 weeks ago, I was virtually lag free. This all is moot though - mods can't fix it, Day9 can't fix it, Team Liquid can't fix it. Only ustream can fix it. Until then, someone, for the hate of lag, please restream. | ||
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SummerZerg
United States82 Posts
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Shadowolf
Canada12 Posts
I would suggested someone who is having a lag issue's run a traceroute to see if there an unreasonable network path to ustream. | ||
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Zips
United States146 Posts
Yet.. Today's funday monday was incredibly informative, and very relevant to the real games. Going mass queen is beatable, but it also forces a different unit mix from your opponent, so I love it -- and if your opponent doesn't build templars or ghosts, you can fuckin win with it! Who'd have thought? Excellent day9 daily, today -- I would recommend every zerg player watches it at least once! | ||
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GameTime
United States222 Posts
I actually see mass queens having its own niche in the future and I want to see it in a tournament some day. | ||
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GeeseHoward
United States78 Posts
On February 08 2011 14:15 SummerZerg wrote: queens are same as they were in beta.. just saying.. Please don't mislead people. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Beta_Patch_Notes Queen Speed off creep decreased from 1.5 to 0.938. (Speed on creep unchanged) How I miss the 1.5 speed of the queen. | ||
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Dabba
United States182 Posts
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OrangeNinja21
United States84 Posts
Well, I'm glad that Zergs have another versatile build to add to their arsenal  | ||
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Ferago
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On February 08 2011 14:15 SummerZerg wrote: queens are same as they were in beta.. just saying.. Which makes this a perfect testament to the fact that game balance isn't just influenced by patches. What we're probably about to witness is a huge paradigm shift, similar to when JulyZerg revolutionized mutalisk harass in BW. Or even better, when Bisu perfected the forge fast-expand for PvZ and it became the new standard Protoss opening. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
and i don't mean mass queens, but rather double gas steal into proxy ebay. e: typos | ||
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
On February 08 2011 13:31 Ragnar1 wrote: I doubt they will get nerfed. They still have limited mobility and require the attention and hand speed to actually use transfuses during battles. Not that much hand speed actually required to pull it off, but I agree. Doubt it'll get nerfed, hell maybe it's even entended that zerg start creeping to their opponents and use mass queens to support expensive t3. On February 08 2011 13:38 Feb wrote: um, you watching the catz games? unless you want every pro game to be zvz, think they need to do something about their unkillability. their other possibility is transfuse reduces queen health to 1hp (kinda like dark archons' mind control in broodwar) one ghost EMP. Marauders focus firing. Na, there are lots of things that can work well enough this mass queen business. | ||
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PhantomNVD
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On February 08 2011 14:31 Shadowolf wrote: I'm betting the lag issue has something to do with a new peering agreement with the affected ISP since it doesn't seem to be a wide spread issue. I would suggested someone who is having a lag issue's run a traceroute to see if there an unreasonable network path to ustream. Nope, I'm in NZ and have a (v reasonable for the distance) 170 ping, with very few spikes or drops when pinging/tracert-ing ustream.tv Was all good 2 weeks back, now absolute rubbish, though JustinTV and other ustream work Day[9]TV just doesn't anymore.... leaving me a reluctant VOD viewer  | ||
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Skrelt
Netherlands306 Posts
Shawn got like 10K viewers on funday monday and he stil only has 4300 votes on the shorty awards. How can you watch him and not vote for him? He give's away so much and people dont want to make a twitter acount for him? Cmon, hes worth it. So please help Day[9] win a shorty award. You know he deserves it more than anyone. | ||
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
On February 08 2011 17:10 Skrelt wrote: People comon, I dont understand this. Shawn got like 10K viewers on funday monday and he stil only has 4300 votes on the shorty awards. How can you watch him and not vote for him? He give's away so much and people dont want to make a twitter acount for him? Cmon, hes worth it. So please help Day[9] win a shorty award. You know he deserves it more than anyone. ^^^^^^this. I voted. it would be awesome for esports if he won. C'mon, if anyone hasn't, go vote! Here's a link: http://shortyawards.com/category/gaming | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On February 08 2011 17:16 Malminos wrote: ^^^^^^this. I voted. it would be awesome for esports if he won. C'mon, if anyone hasn't, go vote! Here's a link: http://shortyawards.com/category/gaming Just F.Y.I. getting first place in votes would help him, but it doesn't earn him the win. Top 6 contenders all get picked and sent over to the judges who will review each person along with their votes and tweet comments and THEY will decide who wins the award. So Sean already has that in the bag, what he needs is not more votes necessarily but quality votes with meaningful comments about why he should win. Although getting voted first place is nice too. | ||
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AngelLock
New Zealand54 Posts
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