On February 06 2011 03:49 Skogsbaret wrote:
Is it just me that finds all his pausing and filming of himself boring? I'd like to absorb his knowledge but with all the pausing and rambling it sucks =/

you cant analyze a game completely if you just go through it without stopping.

Endorsed

Netherlands1221 Posts

February 05 2011 19:01 GMT

#16542

Can't wait to watch Day9daily 252. This is gonna be so usefull

Edit: Wow day9's mouse control is sick lol. I wonder how good he would be if he tried to be pro again.

Brad

2754 Posts

February 05 2011 19:03 GMT

#16543

Yeah, 252 is awesome.

Skogsbaret

Sweden45 Posts

February 05 2011 19:30 GMT

#16544

On February 06 2011 04:00 3 Lions wrote:

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you cant analyze a game completely if you just go through it without stopping.

sure, but his pausing is excessive.

DoubleReed

United States4130 Posts

February 05 2011 21:48 GMT

#16545

On February 06 2011 04:30 Skogsbaret wrote:

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sure, but his pausing is excessive.

The purpose isn't watching a kickass game though. He's not just casting a game. So when he wants to point something out he'll pause. It's just the way it works, and I don't know how it can work any other way. It can be annoying, but that's really when you're actually wondering what's going to happen in the game.

Trentelshark

Canada385 Posts

February 05 2011 21:50 GMT

#16546

On February 06 2011 04:30 Skogsbaret wrote:

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sure, but his pausing is excessive.

If you want to watch a game straight through, get the replay. If you want a straight through cast, watch a live stream where they're casting games. Ify ou want in-depth analysis, you watch D9 because he cannot possibly cover the gritty details of the game by just smoking through it.

kaztal

Sweden68 Posts

February 05 2011 21:53 GMT

#16547

mreh, his pausing IS excessive. at least, i can't help but thinking it is. it's not hard to guess what he's gonna talk about, and specially for those of us who can't catch it when it's live, the times when he looks to the chat for response about "what he should do next" or something like that just feels like filling the time. if people get something out of it, sure, go ahead, but for me it's beginning to lose it's value.

Skogsbaret

Sweden45 Posts

February 05 2011 22:10 GMT

#16548

On February 06 2011 06:50 Trentelshark wrote:

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Can't there be a middle path? I've already agreed upon pausing is sometimes in order to be able analyze what's important BUT I think D9 pauses too much.

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

February 05 2011 22:11 GMT

#16549

He a friendly contributor, he takes time to elaborate and explain things he finds important because a significant portion of his demographic appears to mid to low level players trying to learn the in's and out's of the game. Perhaps you are getting skilled enough where you are able to watch a replay and see what he sees and intuitively as he does, which is why his explanations and pausing seems "excessive" or "boring". I still kind of like it because sometimes the pause is just to toss in some anecdotal/off-topic kind of remark or to crack one of those little jokes he is known for. It gives his stream some personality.

I would just be careful about labeling he methods in such a definite manner because really when it comes down to it, your interpretation is really subjective to your own state in the game or what you personally enjoy viewing online.

Skogsbaret

Sweden45 Posts

February 05 2011 22:20 GMT

#16550

I would just be careful about labeling he methods in such a definite manner because really when it comes down to it, your interpretation is really subjective to your own state in the game or what you personally enjoy viewing online.

Of course. I started this discussion with "Is it just me...". I'm not out after changing Day9's casting style, I just want to see if I'm the only one having this view. I'm not a fan of Day9, he could shorten his casts abit imo. A mixture of Artosis and Day9 would be nuts.

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

February 05 2011 22:22 GMT

#16551

LOVE the daily on the apm, hotkeys, clicking, etc. although i didn't personally take too much away from it in terms of actual things to do (cept triyng out the F-keys now, i was wc3 and we never had them for a screen-capture type key)

also anyone notice how scarily accurate/quick day9 is? don't quite get that when he's casting games or whatever, really wish he would go into competitive scene more

Arnstein

Norway3381 Posts

February 05 2011 22:45 GMT

#16552

What, you can't download dailies anymore from Blip, or am I missing something? :S

Wesso

Netherlands1245 Posts

February 05 2011 22:53 GMT

#16553

On February 06 2011 07:20 Skogsbaret wrote:

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Dailies aren't casts. Day 9 talks about a subject and uses a game/games as support. Normal casts talk about a game and about the subjects that arise during the games. If you watch dailies to see casts, I agree that they suck. You need to watch dailies because you like the subject, that way you won't be bothered by pausing because he is still talking about the subject you wanted to know more of.

SnuggleZhenya

596 Posts

February 06 2011 02:25 GMT

#16554

If you don't like the format of the show, you don't have to watch. I think the way he does it has a nice pacing and leads to good analysis most of the time while still allowing your brain a few seconds to rest every so often.

Incursus

United States415 Posts

February 06 2011 03:29 GMT

#16555

On what days of the week does Day 9 do the daily? I can only catch them occasionally due to my schedule, but I am getting some time off soon, so I'd like to know when I could watch the dailies live!

darkevilxe

Canada346 Posts

February 06 2011 03:43 GMT

#16556

sunday-thurs 7pst to 8

`Forte

United States128 Posts

February 06 2011 03:58 GMT

#16557

Day[9]'s dailies aren't meant to be casts. He uses the replays to analyze the player's decisions to help the viewer learn more things and get better. The dailies are more for analysis and they're closer to guides than casts. He pauses a lot to elaborate on specific decisions and look at parts of the game to further his points and bring up ideas. I feel like the pauses are necessary to catch and absorb everything.

There are tons of great casters in the SC2 community, but not many people doing the in-depth analysis Day[9] is doing.

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

February 06 2011 04:28 GMT

#16558

Or the Funday-Monday's...those draw big numbers. Gave us so many meme's and SC2 jokes...it has been invaluable in teaching us even under the most ridiculous constraints we can still win. Unless you name is Ben...

Deleted User 109835

629 Posts

February 06 2011 04:40 GMT

#16559

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ThaZenith

Canada3116 Posts

February 06 2011 05:39 GMT

#16560

The dailies where complex concepts are analyzed/explained, pausing alot is nice because it takes awhile to explain nicely. Where the daily is focusing on something alot broader (like expand timing/good worker timings) pausing less would be nice.

And dailies like funday, pausing even less would be best. But I think he already does all of these.

So I watch all his dailies. When you're more experienced, i'd imagine you'd want less explained to you in depth, so you'd want him to pause less, but I'm under the impression they're for newer players/low level players. So it's natural that you'd "grow out of" his dailies. (other than fundays)

Go Day9! o.o