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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4442 Posts
November 06 2026 12:27 GMT
#3781
Luis Suarez >>> Kane or Ibrahimovic
Sucker for nostalgia
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28929 Posts
November 06 2026 13:03 GMT
#3782
Suarez is underrated. Peak Suarez was imo the closest a striker/attacker was to being better than either Messi or Ronaldo during peak Messi/Ronaldo years. 15/16 he has 59 goals and 22 assists in 53 games, and his final Liverpool season is comparable to like, peak Henry/Hazard/Ronaldo the year before going to RM. I think that one game vs Norwich might be the best game I've ever seen by a player in the premier league.

But that peak is like, 6 years? Across 15+ years, I think you can argue that Ibra was better, and Kane's previous season is honestly up there with Suarez' best seasons too. I think it's fair to give the overall edge to Suarez if you like, but I think there are two >>'s too many in your statement, there.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2129 Posts
November 06 2026 13:10 GMT
#3783
The goal montage of prime Suarez in Liverpool is insane. All kinds of goals, everything looking so decisive and inevitable. With most goalscorers you can start seeing patterns and maybe think about ways to prevent things from happening, but with Suarez almost every goal is a different finish from different kind of a scenario.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7460 Posts
November 06 2026 13:12 GMT
#3784
On November 06 2026 21:27 DropBear wrote:
Luis Suarez >>> Kane or Ibrahimovic


He definitely had more bite than them.
And that is pretty much all I remember from him.
But checking his stats, holy moly he WAS freaking good. Deserves to be in the conversation at the very least
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7460 Posts
November 06 2026 13:18 GMT
#3785
Here is another one though a bit older: Romario

He was basically topscorer in all competitions he ever participated.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27480 Posts
November 06 2026 14:18 GMT
#3786
On November 06 2026 22:10 Bacillus wrote:
The goal montage of prime Suarez in Liverpool is insane. All kinds of goals, everything looking so decisive and inevitable. With most goalscorers you can start seeing patterns and maybe think about ways to prevent things from happening, but with Suarez almost every goal is a different finish from different kind of a scenario.

Best individual PL season I’ve seen for my money, it was nuts
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
November 06 2026 15:48 GMT
#3787
On November 06 2026 21:27 DropBear wrote:
Luis Suarez >>> Kane or Ibrahimovic


pure talent -> yes
goal scoring and assists probably too

but Kane is giving a lot more to this Bayern team (and also England and Spurs team) than just being a striker. He plays playmaking too and at Bayern even midfield
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18497 Posts
November 07 2026 00:06 GMT
#3788
On November 07 2026 00:48 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2026 21:27 DropBear wrote:
Luis Suarez >>> Kane or Ibrahimovic


pure talent -> yes
goal scoring and assists probably too

but Kane is giving a lot more to this Bayern team (and also England and Spurs team) than just being a striker. He plays playmaking too and at Bayern even midfield

Suarez made a most excellent backup goalie for Uruguay. And if you needed a bit of a nibble, he was also always up for a bite! What do you mean, one-dimensional?!
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2129 Posts
November 07 2026 08:51 GMT
#3789
A random shower thought:

Could we see some teams employ players built for 45 minutes of absolute physical effort? With 5 subs a game, you could pretty easily rotate a handful of guys in midfield putting in a super shift for 45 minutes each rather than starting to consider subs somewhere past 60 minutes.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8946 Posts
November 07 2026 10:17 GMT
#3790
for just physical effort? probably not.

weve already seen more 45 min subs for tactical reasons than in the 3 sub limit days, but utilising subs just to get 45 minutes of athleticism from a player is a too simplistic approach to game management imo. theres too much variance between player ability, game flow, tactics etc that you would be completely ignoring basically
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
November 07 2026 10:24 GMT
#3791


Not only his achievements with Manchester but with Abderdeen. The greatest ever and we will likely never see one like him ever again
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28929 Posts
November 07 2026 11:36 GMT
#3792
On November 07 2026 17:51 Bacillus wrote:
A random shower thought:

Could we see some teams employ players built for 45 minutes of absolute physical effort? With 5 subs a game, you could pretty easily rotate a handful of guys in midfield putting in a super shift for 45 minutes each rather than starting to consider subs somewhere past 60 minutes.


You recover quite a bit during half time, there's no problem taking another 15 minute shift after a 15 minute break. If you could swap people in and out, doing 2x23 minutes could perhaps be worth it.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8946 Posts
November 08 2026 18:33 GMT
#3793
what an absolutely crazy game. our defense is so dogshit seriously
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2129 Posts
November 08 2026 21:32 GMT
#3794
On November 09 2026 03:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
what an absolutely crazy game. our defense is so dogshit seriously

I don't know how much of it is Villa and how much Utd, but coming back from 2 goal deficit twice shows some character at least.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7460 Posts
November 09 2026 10:58 GMT
#3795
Oh wow it's Nations League again already. Itlay vs France should be a banger
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2129 Posts
November 11 2026 09:30 GMT
#3796
As far as I can tell, Poch seems like a very likely candidate for the next Man United coach. We'll see how it goes.

Honestly, he doesn't seem like someone who will change much of the culture unless the board and players are willing to bring in the change too. I think he could maybe do the Spurs thingy if they brought in some young players and gave him time, but at this point he seems more like a stop gap solution.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51715 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-11-11 20:15:29
November 11 2026 20:13 GMT
#3797
anyone coming into united is a guaranteed death sentence to your CV until they get rid of the people above.
the fact that jason wilcox has lasted 3 manager hires is an absolute farce.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8946 Posts
20 hours ago
#3798
yeah wilcox should have got fired ages ago. the guy had no love for united throughout his entire career and suddenly hes calling all the shots? easiest sabotage of his life

anyways i lowkey hope we get relegated even with poch. if thats what it takes for the glazers and ineos to leave then its a necessary sacrifice.

and fuck the pl. they could have applied their fit and proper test to the glazers at any time and forced them to sell the club and theyve done nothing but watch as the glazers dismantle the largest football institution in the league
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10027 Posts
20 hours ago
#3799
On November 12 2026 11:38 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah wilcox should have got fired ages ago. the guy had no love for united throughout his entire career and suddenly hes calling all the shots? easiest sabotage of his life

anyways i lowkey hope we get relegated even with poch. if thats what it takes for the glazers and ineos to leave then its a necessary sacrifice.

and fuck the pl. they could have applied their fit and proper test to the glazers at any time and forced them to sell the club and theyve done nothing but watch as the glazers dismantle the largest football institution in the league


I don't think they've ever applied their fit and proper person's test have they?

I mean City right now would fail because they have shown themselves not to be fit or proper, right?
RIP Meatloaf <3
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8946 Posts
19 hours ago
#3800
not that i know of no, but people are saying they expect city owners to be prohibited from owning city anymore after the appeal is done because the pl would act on it.

my annoyance is well why the hell hasnt the pl acted on it with the glazers already then. yeah city cheated but the owners at least did it for what they thought was the benefit of the club. our owners straight up dont give a fuck and are proud of it
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