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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2049 Posts
May 17 2019 14:39 GMT
#4661
On May 17 2019 21:57 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 10:45 WillyWanker wrote:
Pépé has the level to be a starter in a lot of big teams, he'd be wasted at Liverpool with Salah and Mané. Bayern would be perfect, I think they're on him too.


Liverpool need another potential world class offensive player tho. As good as Mane Salah Firmino are, they make Liverpool's offense predictable and vulnerable to injuries. Shaqiri/Origi aren't cosistent enough to compete for the league title in the long run.

Based on transfermarkt profiles, Neres and Brandt could probably cover most attacking positions on the Liverpool systems as necessary. Meanwhile Pepe has mostly history on the Salah type of role. My backseat manager would go for Neres or Brandt at this point if I had to make a badly educated guess.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 17 2019 14:54 GMT
#4662
On May 17 2019 23:39 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 21:57 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On May 17 2019 10:45 WillyWanker wrote:
Pépé has the level to be a starter in a lot of big teams, he'd be wasted at Liverpool with Salah and Mané. Bayern would be perfect, I think they're on him too.


Liverpool need another potential world class offensive player tho. As good as Mane Salah Firmino are, they make Liverpool's offense predictable and vulnerable to injuries. Shaqiri/Origi aren't cosistent enough to compete for the league title in the long run.

Based on transfermarkt profiles, Neres and Brandt could probably cover most attacking positions on the Liverpool systems as necessary. Meanwhile Pepe has mostly history on the Salah type of role. My backseat manager would go for Neres or Brandt at this point if I had to make a badly educated guess.

Brandt was never constantly good as a winger / part of the front three, he started doing well constantly when Bosz put him in midfield.

I also don't think he is going to leave Germany this summer.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
May 17 2019 15:24 GMT
#4663
Allegri sacked wow :0
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
May 17 2019 15:57 GMT
#4664
And Valverde not sacked, another boring and shitty season once again...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 17 2019 16:09 GMT
#4665
Still time for Valverde to get sacked La Liga isn't done yet remember. Allegri going is very interesting, it was rumoured but with all the "top jobs" filled right now maybe a club like Yanited might sack Ole and bring him in even though that would be crazy pressure for Allegri. But who do Juventus get now....Conte? but he was rumoured to have an "agreement" with Inter at the start of this week. Fun times ahead!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8865 Posts
May 17 2019 16:26 GMT
#4666
there is absolutely no way united sack solksjaer during this off season. ed woodward would look like the biggest incompetent sack of shit
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
May 17 2019 16:37 GMT
#4667
there also must be a limit to how many managers utd can pay at the same time.
Who is still on their payroll? van gaal and mourinho surely
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 17 2019 17:13 GMT
#4668
Moyes original contract runs out just about now, however since he has had multiple different contract I assume they haven't been paying him for a while.
Van Gaal was apparently never extended so his contract ended soon after they sacked him.
So apparently only Mourinho, there would be room for more!

Also on the Jovic news, what an amazing coincidence that once again massive transfer news of Frankfurt is leaked less then 48 hours before a crucial game against Bayern.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 18:06:02
May 17 2019 17:17 GMT
#4669
On May 17 2019 22:37 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 21:14 Rebs wrote:
On May 17 2019 15:40 sharkie wrote:
On May 17 2019 10:45 WillyWanker wrote:
Pépé has the level to be a starter in a lot of big teams, he'd be wasted at Liverpool with Salah and Mané. Bayern would be perfect, I think they're on him too.


You say wasted so you dont believe pepe to be able to reach a higher level than those two?



I think he believes that Pepe should go to a to a quality team where he would be a guaranteed regular starter and have a greater chance of fulfilling said potential and or level. Going to Liverpool at this time would not afford him that.

Hence, a waste. Both for the player himself and as a general resource. How you managed to reach the that his statement was indicating in the slightest that he cant be better than Salah or Mane is rather baffling tbh.


Good players prove himself in training and get chosen by good coaches (which Klopp is a good one). How should the chance be greater at one club or another? You are either a good player or you are not?


Thats a rather naive way of thinking that has little evidence in the general history of the sport to support it. Maybe you know something about Klopp I dont

Im sure Klopp would just go,.. "damn that kids good in training, guess I will bench Salah now.."

But if thats how you think it works then we can agree to disagree.

Regardless none of what you said supports any reason to make the assumption that Willy doesnt think he can be better than anyone or other.

On May 18 2019 01:26 evilfatsh1t wrote:
there is absolutely no way united sack solksjaer during this off season. ed woodward would look like the biggest incompetent sack of shit


As squad builder he has surpassed all expectations in that respect for a while now.

Clearly does good conventional business though.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 17 2019 17:29 GMT
#4670
On May 18 2019 02:13 sneirac wrote:
Also on the Jovic news, what an amazing coincidence that once again massive transfer news of Frankfurt is leaked less then 48 hours before a crucial game against Bayern.

Considering Bild swiftly denied it it pretty much is lmao

Jesus are you paranoid

Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-17 18:31:17
May 17 2019 18:23 GMT
#4671
On May 18 2019 01:26 evilfatsh1t wrote:
there is absolutely no way united sack solksjaer during this off season. ed woodward would look like the biggest incompetent sack of shit

Well he refusing to give De Gea the money he wants in his contract and is looking to sell him at the moment. So...i think putting it past Woodward is not off the table :D

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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 17 2019 18:27 GMT
#4672
To be fair De Gea has had a pretty poor season compared to his regular standards. Granted alot of his stats are messed up because United is garbage but even accounting for that Id say hes been sub par to whats come to be expected off him.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 17 2019 18:31 GMT
#4673
On May 18 2019 02:29 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2019 02:13 sneirac wrote:
Also on the Jovic news, what an amazing coincidence that once again massive transfer news of Frankfurt is leaked less then 48 hours before a crucial game against Bayern.

Considering Bild swiftly denied it it pretty much is lmao

Jesus are you paranoid


Denied the transfer or that they leaked it? Cuz denying they leaked it makes no difference, denying the transfer is happening is clearly them going against Sky who they compete with. Sky UK and Germany say deal is done.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
May 17 2019 18:31 GMT
#4674
On May 17 2019 23:39 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2019 21:57 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
On May 17 2019 10:45 WillyWanker wrote:
Pépé has the level to be a starter in a lot of big teams, he'd be wasted at Liverpool with Salah and Mané. Bayern would be perfect, I think they're on him too.


Liverpool need another potential world class offensive player tho. As good as Mane Salah Firmino are, they make Liverpool's offense predictable and vulnerable to injuries. Shaqiri/Origi aren't cosistent enough to compete for the league title in the long run.

Based on transfermarkt profiles, Neres and Brandt could probably cover most attacking positions on the Liverpool systems as necessary. Meanwhile Pepe has mostly history on the Salah type of role. My backseat manager would go for Neres or Brandt at this point if I had to make a badly educated guess.


Oh I wasn't saying that they need Pepe specifically. Frankly I think either of those 3 would help, not sure how well Brandt fits tho. I think he is a better fit for Dortmund.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 17 2019 18:44 GMT
#4675
On May 18 2019 03:31 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2019 02:29 clusen wrote:
On May 18 2019 02:13 sneirac wrote:
Also on the Jovic news, what an amazing coincidence that once again massive transfer news of Frankfurt is leaked less then 48 hours before a crucial game against Bayern.

Considering Bild swiftly denied it it pretty much is lmao

Jesus are you paranoid


Denied the transfer or that they leaked it? Cuz denying they leaked it makes no difference, denying the transfer is happening is clearly them going against Sky who they compete with. Sky UK and Germany say deal is done.

They denied that the transfer is done, no agreement about the fee yet.

According to spanish news outlets the transfer is done for like a week already, hardly a shocking leak at this point anyways that is going to make Frankfurt crumble.
whistleboss
Profile Joined March 2019
151 Posts
May 18 2019 01:59 GMT
#4676
frankfurt lol. like they were good before, lol.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 18 2019 08:42 GMT
#4677
I'm fucking dying over here. I don't know what to with myself until kickoff. Time is moving so slowly. Today we continue to live or just die
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-18 13:29:21
May 18 2019 12:01 GMT
#4678
On May 18 2019 17:42 TheNewEra wrote:
I'm fucking dying over here. I don't know what to with myself until kickoff. Time is moving so slowly. Today we continue to live or just die

I think you just got a penalty for your own players handball o.O well if that ain't a good omen nothing will be able to defeat Schuberts coaching

e: congrats i guess but that could have gone really badly wrong, dropping two spots and staving off relegation by 1 goal
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possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 18 2019 14:42 GMT
#4679
Controversial call of the day so far:

https://streamable.com/q6w3y
VAR: https://streamable.com/zbe91
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 18 2019 15:24 GMT
#4680
Ribbery finishing off with a 5-1 win, another championship and a goal apiece in their final games, thats nice.

Frankfurt go from 4th and semi final in Europe to 7th and nothing xD
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