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JimmiC
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urmomdresslikafloozy
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JimmyJRaynor
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https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2017/11/23/dont-look-now-but-andrew-wiggins-defense-is-finally-improving/ i pretty much agree with everything in here... i've said most of it in the past as well. if his offense can return to what it was last year he'd almost be an average starting small forward. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On November 25 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: I dont see how you can read that article and think it supports what you have said in this forum. But that is part of what makes you you, even when your wrong your right just move them goal posts. ok let's go through it and see... But there is a downside to the narrative that Andrew Wiggins has created for himself, and that’s his historically awful defensive output. Eighteen games in to his fourth NBA season, however, Wiggins is finally beginning to show signs of life on the defensive end. this point has come under dispute in this thread. i've backed my point with a plethora of observations and metrics... i'm not reposting them. up until this year he is the worst defensive small forward in the NBA. this quote above paraphrases what i said 3 days before this article was published. Despite his claims to become a better off-ball defender, Wiggins has still been pretty bad in that area this season, purely from viewing standpoint. Although he has clearly shown more attention to his match-up’s. He was basically showing none before this season though, so we will still mark it down as a win in the defensive category for Wiggins. He must continue to become a better off-ball stopper; moments like this still happen far too often due to an intense proneness to ball-watching, instead of focusing on his man. this part from the article paraphrases what i said 3 days ago... before this article was published. i'm not sure about the "ball watching" part though. i just know he gets suckered/fooled/fished-in by whatever gimmick a 5-on-5 half court offense is playing. if its due to "ball watching" .. ok. this ends the detailed breakdown of this article's congruence with my past comments. On November 25 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: they need to start "norm" ,as youve started to call him, to fix and blah blah. funny you should bring that up after i posted his NBA leading eFT and TS% and then we have this https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2017/11/22/nemanja-bjelica-deserves-more-minutes/ Norm deserves more minutes. i love Norm! On November 25 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: That with his gifts athletically he could be a better defender if you want i'll repost all your disagreements with my evaluation that Wiggins is the `worst SF in the NBA on defense` with really low effort levels, but i'd rather not. On November 25 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: You were with ace in the ges garbage trade him to get rid of him camp. But would hedge you bet with a possible develope into a slightly above average player down the road. RowdierBob mentioned trading Wiggins as well. I'm not an advocate in trading anyone unless i know what i'm getting in return. I'd listen to offers for him that is for sure. Also, do not lump in others' negative hyperbole about Wiggins onto my comments. My evaluation is he is a below average player, period. he is better than "garbage" which other posters have used as a description for him. I don't like terms like "garbage player". Terms like "garbage player" lead to inflammatory mud slinging as opposed to accurate evaluation. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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Ace
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On November 25 2017 02:26 JimmiC wrote: What a shocker a 22 year old playing on a now better defensive team (and overall better) is doing better defensively. Pretty sure this is what i said in the long ago posts of tge past two years. That with his gifts athletically he could be a better defender and he woukd figure it out as he aged and had better plauers around him. You were with ace in the ges garbage trade him to get rid of him camp. But would hedge you bet with a possible develope into a slightly above average player down the road. There has also been the whole this team will be way worse off with oyt rubio because hes the best defender or they need to start "norm" ,as youve started to call him, to fix and blah blah. I dont see how you can read that article and think it supports what you have said in this forum. But that is part of what makes you you, even when your wrong your right just move them goal posts. Wiggins is still garbage | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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On November 25 2017 05:05 JimmiC wrote: Its becoming harder and harder for peopl to say that with a straight face, and thats why people like jimmyj who dont unstand the advannced stats byt treat them like fact always put disclaimers so that as their stat changes they still feel right. I do at least respect that you have a point of veiw and stick to it. i guess you didn't read my post. Wiggins is a below average player. that has not changed. nor has my evaluation of him as a below average player. that has remained the same. i'm sticking to it. on average, players improve until they hit their late 20s and then they decline in their 30s. look for wiggins to follow that trend. On November 25 2017 05:01 Ace wrote: Wiggins is still garbage if "garbage" = "below average" then i agree | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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Ben Simmons won't play tomorrow night for the 76ers. He has swelling in his left elbow. we're a month into the season... here is a run down of lowry's injuries. Lowry bleeds more than Ric Flair in his prime. i don't think Pascal Siakam has hit a 3 since Canadian thanksgiving. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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last year he had the lowest turnover % of any player in the NBA with a high volume of touches. https://squared2020.com/2017/08/12/analyzing-steals-in-the-2016-17-nba-season/ | ||
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zev318
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in nba, do u forfeit the game if u have less than 5 players? nm u cant go under 5 players in the nba, well, at least not by fouling out | ||
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andrewlt
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In the NBA, you can't foul out if it causes your team to have less than 5 players. The other team will shoot a technical free throw every time the guy with 6 fouls commits another foul. Happened to the Lakers a few years ago. | ||
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